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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:01 am

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Lawrencelot wrote:Before I vote Streeflo: does anyone know if it is possible or likely that there is a jester in a FE-themed game? If this was a normal game or open game, I would have voted streeflo now.
Probably a mod question there Lawrencelot. I would doubt we would have a jester in a game like this BUT if so, he would be a prime suspect. Although in games with Jester's I've always said mafia can hide behind them by putting fear in the town that they are a jester when in essence they are scum. I don't believe Streeflo is a jester.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:11 am

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Streeflo -5- (Xyzzy, Ryan, Khelvaster, YagamiLight, SilverPhoenix)

Khevlaster -2- (Mert, Cavane)
Nekka-Lucifer -1- (Ezralite, Streeflo)


Not Voting- (Nekka-Lucifer, Lawrencelot, Somada)

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch

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MOD EDIT-Votecount fixed,

Also please remember to unvote before voting again.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:12 am

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Mod: Is it possible we have a Jester in this game?
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:14 am

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It is possible to have a Jester in themed games, mini or otherwise
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:23 am

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ryan wrote:SilverPhoenix and Somada: What do you think about Streeflo's behavior? Top scum suspects at this time?
Streeflo is really close to the top of my list, but the speed of this bandwagon really bothers me.

Also, what does a jester do?
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:32 am

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I don't think streeflo voted for himself, which would put him at L-3, which is slightly more reasonable.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:33 am

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A jester tries to get lynched, if he is lynched he wins. Also who are your current scum possibilities?
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:34 am

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Is Streeflo really on his own wagon? I don't
think
the mechanics of this game are that weird, but in order to be safe:
Mod
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:36 am

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Streeflo wrote:
Unvote; Vote: Nekka-Lucifer
Can't be right. This is his most recent post.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:44 am

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ryan wrote:A jester tries to get lynched, if he is lynched he wins. Also who are your current scum possibilities?
Streeflo's on the top right now, but I don't want to vote at least until the vote count is fixed, or there's some explanation. He seems to be pushing for whatever bandwagon is going on without really giving his own opinions, which is just drawing attention to himself (which is where I could see a jester argument come from). Khelvaster's second on the list, since the role claim fiasco, but he hasn't really acted scummy enough since then to ignore the possibility that it was just a newbie moment.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:45 am

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How about you Mert, suspects?
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:56 am

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As a Fire Emblem themed game, I could kind of see Kishuna being a jester character. His powers act without regards to whether or not a foe or ally is within his field. He was also the first morph, making him an existence without meaning, in which case he wouldn't quite value his own lie. Also, I might be imagining this, but does he smile if you kill him in stage 31x?

My point is, for people who haven't played Fire Emblem, is that there are characters who could make jesters and fit in with the theme. Now I feel like looking for my Gameboy again.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:03 am

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http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/gba/ ... cter.shtml

I'm not sure if this website will help or not but it does talk about the game/characters in the game.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:37 am

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Nekka-Lucifer wrote: I can see Streeflo as scummy. He joined us on the 31st of March. Whether or not, he came from somewhere else is beyond me. If this is his only mafia experiance, then a noob townie
could
come into place here. Although he HAS been with us for 4 1/2 months so that should give him a good knoledge of how to be a good townie. A well playing scum though is less likely. There is a usual odd of 1/4 to be scum in a game. Before I make conclusions, I want to ask Steeflo if he's been in other games being MAFIA in paticular. If so, can we have some game numbers and links to shuffle through? Obviously, they have to be ones where you're dead or the game's finished
Sure, I'll play along.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5453
Mafia in Theoville, where I was mafia. Might I mention Nekka, that you were in this game, and I was on the wagon lynching you Day 1 with no problem.
This was also the game where I made my splendid tracker claim XD.

I've completed 4 games. One of my ongoing ones is in the endgame, and two are fast approaching it. Go ahead and read. You'll see I happen to enjoy shooting out votes on whim.

For the record, I didn't vote myself and I'm not a Jester.

The speed of this wagon is interesting. I like how there are about 3 people stating that they "are" going to vote for me, but haven't, for various reasons including the Jester one.
Cavane wrote:Asking for game numbers so you can metagame is a bit out of line. As for the Jester, I don't really see one among the cast of this game. It's been a while since I played it, though, so I could be forgetting someone.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:45 am

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Now, I really don't want to use other games for evidence, but, actually Streeflo, having played that game with you, you voted very few times without reason. I don't know about your other games though.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:14 am

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YagamiLight wrote:Now, I really don't want to use other games for evidence, but, actually Streeflo, having played that game with you, you voted very few times without reason. I don't know about your other games though.
Yea, but I was mafia. LOL XD
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:32 pm

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Wikipedia has some nice Fire Emblem articles.

The most up to date websites on fire emblem things are FEplanet.com/net (google it because the link changes at intervals when they switch servers), and gamefaqs.com has some interesting looks into unit development, since all supports are archived there (Though I have 100% on my GBA version = D )
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:53 pm

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ryan wrote:How about you Mert, suspects?
You a little bit. Your most recent posts all seem to be aimed at getting more contribution from various players. While this is fine in itself, I find the lack of suspicions or contribution coming from you around that time to be odd given the desire to get others talking.

As for Streeflo, I'm undecided. I can't really get a read on him either way at the moment. Nekka-Lucifer's post about his experience doesn't really ring true for me.

Also a note on why I asked the mod to confirm the status of the vote count - I know that Streeflo's latest vote was not one for himself, but given that this is a theme game and that interesting and different roles are around, I see no reason to rule out the possibility of a vote-altering role in its entirity at this point. I said I thought it was unlikely, but I would like the mod to confirm the vote count is correct or post and amended version so I can know whether to put that particular line of enquiry to bed.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:35 pm

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I played Mafia 67, and in that game we did a d1 jester lynch. People were saying that wasn't necessarily a bad thing, since town can still win. Is it true that town still wins if jester gets lynched?
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:13 pm

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Looks like the vote count has been corrected
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:13 pm

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Khelvaster wrote:I played Mafia 67, and in that game we did a d1 jester lynch. People were saying that wasn't necessarily a bad thing, since town can still win. Is it true that town still wins if jester gets lynched?
According to the mafiascum wiki, we keep on playing for second place. So we still win, but the jester wins more.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:14 pm

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Votecount is fixed (I didn't see the wrong one, so Streeflo voted for himself in the wrong one?). I think the thing in the votecount has nothing to do with Jesters or other weird roles, it was probably just a small mistake by the mod. I was the one who brought up the jester thing: I never played a FE game with a Jester-like char, and apparently Cavane didn't either, but now Somada says there is one (what streeflo says himself is irrelevant for him being Jester or not).

Still although it's possible he's Jester, I will
unvote, vote Streeflo
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Streeflo: claim please
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:41 pm

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Well, I always understood that anyone who met their win condition won. The Jester's win condition doesn't usually preclude the Town's, thus both those factions are able to win the same game. Town and Scum win conditions, however, are mutually exclusive in all but the wackiest of games.

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Putting someone at L-1 at page 5 was a bad move. I really don't think we should force a claim this early in the game. I'd ask someone to please unvote.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:58 pm

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I shall take this time (as we are near a lynch) to explain the logic behind my NO RANDOM VOTE thing. It was merely a conversation starter. It worked, but then others had other plans to spark conv and so, mine had basically turned into a sign of suspicion. Shame for me :(.

Oh, and Cavane. Who's going to lynch him? Unless there's a long period of wait, we can suspect the person who lynches.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:13 pm

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Just because bandwagoning is generally good, doesn't mean EXTREME bandwagoning is even better. Pay more attention to my post, though. I wasn't worried anyone would be foolish enough to lynch him right away. I didn't want a claim this early on. There's no reason for it. We can still get a lot of discussion accomplished, and even if scum don't hammer, a quick end to D1 is in their best interests.
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