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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:19 am
by Brigitte
In post 98, u r a person 2 wrote:yay skitter is probably town because of this interaction
I agree. How is watch duty right now?

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:19 am
by u r a person 2
i can't see the sun anymore but I think that might be because I've lost my retinas

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:20 am
by Brigitte
Ohhh no. Go see the medical unit quick!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:22 am
by skitter30
i don't think it's inherently scummy either

i think that framing a lack of ai content on page 2 as being scummy is scummy, as is dropping that line of reasoning when someone else didn't follow along with that push

this is why i don't think the two of you are svs (although this page is making me rethink that maybe?). it felt like he was encouraging you to look at reck as being scummy for not having ai content at that stage but when you didn't take the bait he changed his read of the situation, even though reck hadn't made any new posts in the interim

pedit this was a response to

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:22 am
by skitter30
In post 99, Brigitte wrote:I also think if Enter was trying to buddy me here, he probably wouldn't put me as one of his top scumreads. Seems like a roundabout way of buddying.
yeah i thought that was weird too but he literally dropped it like three posts later

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:22 am
by skitter30
VOTE: enter

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:23 am
by xRECKONERx
wow skitter has my brain

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:24 am
by xRECKONERx
the opinion shift from enter is completely manufactured

it's like a light switch from "omg he has no ai stuff yet and IT'S PAGE TWO!!!!!!" to "oh yeah i totally agree with you that reck is so town dudeeee"

it's v bad

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:24 am
by Brigitte
In post 103, skitter30 wrote:i don't think it's inherently scummy either

i think that framing a lack of ai content on page 2 as being scummy is scummy, as is dropping that line of reasoning when someone else didn't follow along with that push

this is why i don't think the two of you are svs (although this page is making me rethink that maybe?). it felt like he was encouraging you to look at reck as being scummy for not having ai content at that stage but when you didn't take the bait he changed his read of the situation, even though reck hadn't made any new posts in the interim

pedit this was a response to
I think your overanalyzing it.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:25 am
by skitter30
ok and i disagree, i think is manipulative and that the transition from there to iirc is quite bad

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:26 am
by Enter
In post 107, xRECKONERx wrote:the opinion shift from enter is completely manufactured

it's like a light switch from "omg he has no ai stuff yet and IT'S PAGE TWO!!!!!!" to "oh yeah i totally agree with you that reck is so town dudeeee"

it's v bad
Definitely. The irony of the push on me is that the argument is that I'm inconsistent, while if you read everything I've been saying, it's actually wildly consistent. It's cool tho, let's get to L-2 at least.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:27 am
by xRECKONERx
post 34 belongs in a museum dedicated to robotic AI trying to emulate human behavior

or in this case, scum trying to emulate being town

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:27 am
by xRECKONERx
In post 110, Enter wrote:
In post 107, xRECKONERx wrote:the opinion shift from enter is completely manufactured

it's like a light switch from "omg he has no ai stuff yet and IT'S PAGE TWO!!!!!!" to "oh yeah i totally agree with you that reck is so town dudeeee"

it's v bad
Definitely. The irony of the push on me is that the argument is that I'm inconsistent, while if you read everything I've been saying, it's actually wildly consistent. It's cool tho, let's get to L-2 at least.
31 to 34 is absolutely not consistent and no amount of gaslighting will ever convince me of that

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:27 am
by skitter30
In post 107, xRECKONERx wrote:the opinion shift from enter is completely manufactured

it's like a light switch from "omg he has no ai stuff yet and IT'S PAGE TWO!!!!!!" to "oh yeah i totally agree with you that reck is so town dudeeee"

it's v bad
well he didn't actually agree with brigtte; brigitte said she thought you hadn't done anything ai and that it wasn't a bad thing after enter tried to set up not having ai content on page2 as being a bad thing, and then he delcared you a townread

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:28 am
by Enter
Actually, the fact that people are taking a page one post in RVS that's an obvious attempt to get a wagon going as serious in any way, shape, or form is kinda weird to me. Mafia has changed a lot in the last two years.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:28 am
by skitter30
In post 110, Enter wrote:
In post 107, xRECKONERx wrote:the opinion shift from enter is completely manufactured

it's like a light switch from "omg he has no ai stuff yet and IT'S PAGE TWO!!!!!!" to "oh yeah i totally agree with you that reck is so town dudeeee"

it's v bad
Definitely. The irony of the push on me is that the argument is that I'm inconsistent, while if you read everything I've been saying, it's actually wildly consistent. It's cool tho, let's get to L-2 at least.
can you explain how everything you've done is wildly consistent, esp. taking into account ?

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:29 am
by Brigitte
In post 109, skitter30 wrote:ok and i disagree, i think is manipulative and that the transition from there to iirc is quite bad
So far what I see Enter is trying to push for a wagons in RVS to get reactions. Those posts are in total alignment with that goal and mindset. So I don't see how it is manipulative unless he is using it to get himself to be townread for pushing the game forward in some nefarious way.

I can actually pretty much see where Enter's brain is going even if I don't agree with most of it.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:29 am
by xRECKONERx
In post 114, Enter wrote:Actually, the fact that people are taking a page one post in RVS that's an obvious attempt to get a wagon going as serious in any way, shape, or form is kinda weird to me. Mafia has changed a lot in the last two years.
it was page two

shouldnt you know, you were blowing up about how ridiculous it was i had posted no AI content ON PAGE FRICKIN TWO!!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:30 am
by Brigitte
In post 111, xRECKONERx wrote:post 34 belongs in a museum dedicated to robotic AI trying to emulate human behavior

or in this case, scum trying to emulate being town
This is posturing.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:30 am
by skitter30
In post 114, Enter wrote:Actually, the fact that people are taking a page one post in RVS that's an obvious attempt to get a wagon going as serious in any way, shape, or form is kinda weird to me. Mafia has changed a lot in the last two years.
this is coming after you insinuated a lack of ai content on page 2 is a negative thing

and after you've said a wagon on you is cool to get the game out of rvs

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:30 am
by xRECKONERx
Brigitte wrote:
In post 111, xRECKONERx wrote:post 34 belongs in a museum dedicated to robotic AI trying to emulate human behavior

or in this case, scum trying to emulate being town
This is posturing.
you're posturing

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:30 am
by NotMySpamAccount
In post 35, u r a person 2 wrote:Can I suggest NMSA for that wagon? I expect you'll find that more productive, anyhow.
I've been reading through and honestly this is different from the other games I've played with you so since noone else has done much AI, VOTE: urap2

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:31 am
by Brigitte
In post 120, xRECKONERx wrote:
Brigitte wrote:
In post 111, xRECKONERx wrote:post 34 belongs in a museum dedicated to robotic AI trying to emulate human behavior

or in this case, scum trying to emulate being town
This is posturing.
you're posturing
Good one :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:31 am
by Enter
In post 112, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 110, Enter wrote:
In post 107, xRECKONERx wrote:the opinion shift from enter is completely manufactured

it's like a light switch from "omg he has no ai stuff yet and IT'S PAGE TWO!!!!!!" to "oh yeah i totally agree with you that reck is so town dudeeee"

it's v bad
Definitely. The irony of the push on me is that the argument is that I'm inconsistent, while if you read everything I've been saying, it's actually wildly consistent. It's cool tho, let's get to L-2 at least.
31 to 34 is absolutely not consistent and no amount of gaslighting will ever convince me of that
It's consistent with everything else I've been saying

"Any wagon is better than no wagon"
"You can say do anything in RVS"
"Let's wagon anyone even if they're town cuz it gets us out of RVS with serious reads"

So a vote change from a player I'd barely read to a player I'd read slightly more of in attempt to draw attention, start a wagon, and acquire reads is pretty consistent to the rest of what I've been saying.

It's almost like context is important.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:31 am
by skitter30
oh also before i forget i wouldn't be surprised if scum have a non-standard wincon given how the town wincon is worded