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Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:49 am**

EU I want to lynch Mac and would rather wait on GM. I've read the thread this time, I promise. I admit that through some of the more repetitive times I skimmed a bit ("That's an overreaction" "Nuh uh" "Yuh huh you didn't explain why it's not." "You're overreacting to my overreaction" "Nuh uh!" "Yuh huh!" -.-) but I've read the whole thing.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:56 am**

Lynching me is so wrong it hurts.

Like if I was lurking my way through the game. Yeah. But I'm not. And 'scummy' though my methods are, they work; those games I linked to show that.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:02 pm**

In post 938, VisceraEyes wrote:Anyways I'm off tow ork. It might be about 2 hours before I'm in a position to play Mafia, but I should be back on soon enough.

I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on a Mac lynch versus a GM lynch.

GM must go first.!!!

In post 959, Mac wrote:As for Eye, I haven't like him since AA9 joined.

I already stated that he tried to back up AA9's "one scum in IC/2SE because mod didn't randomize" argument with maths and logic which I think his him possibly subtly pushing towards this to get people towards pushing an IC/SE scumhunt and away from him. It felt like it was sorta buddying AA9 too, softpushing her poor argument with probablity and logic. Like I said earlier though, he voted her afterwards which is like a complete chnge and he moves quickly from 'terrible town' to 'scum.'

He offers his vote for GM in #210 and then doesn't vote her until #401 and quickly unvotes with some revelation that needs a reread. he doesn't really explain as such, and then reveals a re-read hasn't actually changed his opinion but clouded it up.

And then there's the second GM vote, "for Deras." Looks like he's using Deras as an excuse to vote GM, then his case comes after GM pushes for it. Why wait? Makes no sense to me.

pedit; I do that as town, playstyle and things, ya know? It's not a part I'm proud of and it's something I'm actively trying to change. Can you point to times where I've been a "cheerleader?"

I also think Eye could be possible scum, Eye is another poster who i don't have good feeling about content. His large posts and logical calculation statments freaks me out, they pretty much look like a wanna be townie. if you are suspicious about Eye, you should vote him. If GM and Z lynches are not happneing today, eye is another person i would prefer to lynch.

In post 975, fferyllt wrote:
In post 972, VisceraEyes wrote:Deras is...a mystery. He's an X factor. He was here yesterday and he actually voted me when the wagon took off. Do you know where he stands on me presently? Do you know if he actually thinks GM is scum?
Deras, Eye Urn bothered me equally in that respect.

AA's naked survivalism was at least clearly what it was. Their motivations? I don't know.

If you think this is a joke, Its not funny!!!!

Can we just end this day in some way, I don't care who dies now.. this game is not moving and it is frustruting to see that how we are going over the same topics in a circle jerk. We talked about how I had calculated 1 posssible scum in SE/IC's like a million times and i don't have energy to go over these topics again and agian. This day has already extended unnecessarily. I don't care if I am getting lynched today, if that could give you guys more information... Just get done with this day please....

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:04 pm**

I find it extremely ironic that Mac was opposed to Z's case on GM being based on meta, saying "find me stuff in

this

game that makes GM scummy" and yet, when confronted with behavior I find scummy from

this

game to attack Mac with, all he's got is "But meta!! META!!!"

PEdit:
AA then vote Mac and I promise we'll lynch scum.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:06 pm**

Is MAC at L-1???

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:07 pm**

No, but your vote would go a long way at convincing the thread that a Mac lynch is at least feasible.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:07 pm**

In post 1003, VisceraEyes wrote:I find it extremely ironic that Mac was opposed to Z's case on GM being based on meta, saying "find me stuff in
this
game that makes GM scummy" and yet, when confronted with behavior I find scummy from
this
game to attack Mac with, all he's got is "But meta!! META!!!"

PEdit:

AA then vote Mac and I promise we'll lynch scum.

But you are attacking my playstyle; I'm saying this is my playstyle, look at X and Y. I also said what I felt about "cheerleading wagons" and how it's not true but pick and choose your points.

Thanks for admitting I'm not scum though.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:09 pm**

In post 1003, VisceraEyes wrote:I find it extremely ironic that Mac was opposed to Z's case on GM being based on meta, saying "find me stuff in
this

game that makes GM scummy" and yet, when confronted with behavior I find scummy from
this
game to attack Mac with, all he's got is "But meta!! META
!!!"

PEdit:
AA then vote Mac and I promise we'll lynch scum.

I would like to see the actual MAC post of the bolded statement? I mean, I really want to see what MAC words are... MAC had town read on GM. now he saying GM is scum? quote that post, my vote will be yours to command.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:10 pm**

In post 1006, Mac wrote:
In post 1003, VisceraEyes wrote:I find it extremely ironic that Mac was opposed to Z's case on GM being based on meta, saying "find me stuff in
this
game that makes GM scummy" and yet, when confronted with behavior I find scummy from
this
game to attack Mac with, all he's got is "But meta!! META!!!"

PEdit:

AA then vote Mac and I promise we'll lynch scum.
But you are attacking my playstyle; I'm saying this is my playstyle, look at X and Y. I also said what I felt about "cheerleading wagons" and how it's not true but pick and choose your points.

Thanks for admitting I'm not scum though.

Explain the bolded. What do you mean "admitting I'm not scum"? The only way that makes sense is if you're saying that I know you're not scum because I'M scum. Is that your assertion? If so, where's the vote?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:12 pm**

Well you say "lynch Mac and then we'll lynch scum" which suggests you are scum or dicking about with a townread and policy lynching me? I can't decide.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:13 pm**

In post 693, Mac wrote:690- AA9's GM case... is meta-related? nooooooo no no NO.
Find something in this game that makes GM scummy
rather than saying she's acting the same: goodmorning is a good player and I highly doubt she'd repeat her scum play so obviously.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:14 pm**

In post 1003, VisceraEyes wrote:I find it extremely ironic that Mac was opposed to Z's case on GM being based on meta, saying "find me stuff in
this
game that makes GM scummy" and yet, when confronted with behavior I find scummy from
this
game to attack Mac with, all he's got is "But meta!! META!!!"

PEdit:
AA then vote Mac and I promise we'll lynch scum.

You are so much more sure about this bandwagon than I am.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:14 pm**

Your case is based on playstyle; only way I can prove it is with meta.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:15 pm**

In post 1009, Mac wrote:Well you say "lynch Mac and then we'll lynch scum" which suggests you are scum or dicking about with a townread and policy lynching me? I can't decide.

I said "Vote Mac and we'll lynch scum" Lynch referring to THIS lynch. Mac lynch = lynch scum is what I'm saying.

PEdit:
Perhaps you'd like to explain why you keep misrepresenting my play in this game then?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:15 pm**

Can that be "explained away" with meta?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:18 pm**

In post 1011, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1003, VisceraEyes wrote:I find it extremely ironic that Mac was opposed to Z's case on GM being based on meta, saying "find me stuff in
this
game that makes GM scummy" and yet, when confronted with behavior I find scummy from
this
game to attack Mac with, all he's got is "But meta!! META!!!"

PEdit:
AA then vote Mac and I promise we'll lynch scum.
You are so much more sure about this bandwagon than I am.

Look at his activity spike if you're having doubts. Where was all this activity yesterday when his "top scumread" was being bandwagonned up? Where was he when his "top town-read" was being bandwagonned up? Why spike in activity only when

he's

being run up?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:18 pm**

Well it's not really as though it's a massive mistake to make? You're right though, that's my bad.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:19 pm**

It's worth noting that only myself and feryl have voted for Mac - so unless he knows our alignment and what that means with regard to town sentiment, there should be no reason for Mac to be SO concerned about being lynched.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:20 pm**

In post 1015, VisceraEyes wrote:
In post 1011, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1003, VisceraEyes wrote:I find it extremely ironic that Mac was opposed to Z's case on GM being based on meta, saying "find me stuff in
this
game that makes GM scummy" and yet, when confronted with behavior I find scummy from
this
game to attack Mac with, all he's got is "But meta!! META!!!"

PEdit:
AA then vote Mac and I promise we'll lynch scum.
You are so much more sure about this bandwagon than I am.
Look at his activity spike if you're having doubts. Where was all this activity yesterday when his "top scumread" was being bandwagonned up? Where was he when his "top town-read" was being bandwagonned up? Why spike in activity only when
he's
being run up?

What a shit statement. I can't post when I'm asleep.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:20 pm**

In post 1017, VisceraEyes wrote:It's worth noting that only myself and feryl have voted for Mac - so unless he knows our alignment and what that means with regard to town sentiment, there should be no reason for Mac to be SO concerned about being lynched.

So I'll just lie down to L-1?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:21 pm**

In post 1019, Mac wrote:
In post 1017, VisceraEyes wrote:It's worth noting that only myself and feryl have voted for Mac - so unless he knows our alignment and what that means with regard to town sentiment, there should be no reason for Mac to be SO concerned about being lynched.
So I'll just lie down to L-1?

Just keep setting up strawmen. OF course I have no problem with you defending yourself. I'm commenting on the stark contrast with your activity yesterday when the VE and GM bandwagons were happening.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:23 pm**

But of course, you COULD be scumhunting. Defending yourself is cool and everything, but if you REALLY want to help town you should be telling us who you think is scum and why. I'm not lynching EU today, who else is suspicious to you?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:23 pm**

In post 1010, VisceraEyes wrote:
In post 693, Mac wrote:690- AA9's GM case... is meta-related? nooooooo no no NO.
Find something in this game that makes GM scummy
rather than saying she's acting the same: goodmorning is a good player and I highly doubt she'd repeat her scum play so obviously.

and where is the post he supported META cause?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:24 pm**

In post 1020, VisceraEyes wrote:
In post 1019, Mac wrote:
In post 1017, VisceraEyes wrote:It's worth noting that only myself and feryl have voted for Mac - so unless he knows our alignment and what that means with regard to town sentiment, there should be no reason for Mac to be SO concerned about being lynched.
So I'll just lie down to L-1?
Just keep setting up strawmen. OF course I have no problem with you defending yourself. I'm commenting on the stark contrast with your activity yesterday when the VE and GM bandwagons were happening.

Both of these happened in the early hours of the morning, at which time I was fast asleep.

Clearly, my VE/GM wagon alarm didn't go off.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:25 pm**

In post 1023, Mac wrote:
In post 1020, VisceraEyes wrote:
In post 1019, Mac wrote:
In post 1017, VisceraEyes wrote:It's worth noting that only myself and feryl have voted for Mac - so unless he knows our alignment and what that means with regard to town sentiment, there should be no reason for Mac to be SO concerned about being lynched.
So I'll just lie down to L-1?
Just keep setting up strawmen. OF course I have no problem with you defending yourself. I'm commenting on the stark contrast with your activity yesterday when the VE and GM bandwagons were happening.
Both of these happened in the early hours of the morning, at which time I was fast asleep.

Clearly, my VE/GM wagon alarm didn't go off.

Shame that, you could have missed everything.

ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 1010, VisceraEyes wrote:
In post 693, Mac wrote:690- AA9's GM case... is meta-related? nooooooo no no NO.
Find something in this game that makes GM scummy
rather than saying she's acting the same: goodmorning is a good player and I highly doubt she'd repeat her scum play so obviously.
and where is the post he supported META cause?

I'm not sure what you're asking, he's defending himself using almost exclusively meta.

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