DoctorPepper, JKMatthews, Pebro, Nobody Special, Bicephalous Bob
DoctorPepper (1) -
ChannelDelibird,
Nobody Special (1)-
Titus
Not voting (1) -
Bacde
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is at 6pm BST on 12th July 2013.
Titus has been lynched.
Night 2 now begins. Deadline is in 48 hours, at 7pm BST on Sunday 14th July 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:53 am
by Nexus
Day 3 now begins. With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is at 6pm BST on Monday 29th July 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:19 am
by DoctorPepper
This was a weird night kill but I was right. I wonder why I didnt die tonight?
Well my top suspects are Pebro and Bob.
JKM is null.
Im pretty sure Bacde is town, and I dont tink Titus would have settled on a compromise to lynch CDB if he was scum.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:11 am
by DoctorPepper
Im sure someone on the lynch of Titus bussed.
BTW, Bacde is town because in his scum game with me, we bussed each other to make the other look more town. If he was partners with Titus, he would have bussed by now
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:13 am
by ChannelDelibird
I'm sorry I missed the end of the day but I wouldn't have expected that flip at all given Rikablu's Day 1. Now that we've got a flip, though, I'm going to look back at Rikablu and Titus and see if I can deduce the partner. And I'm doing that right now. This second. Now. Hurrah! Yay!
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:15 am
by ChannelDelibird
In post 75, Rikablu wrote:I think I'm caught up to speed now on the posts. From my understanding, the wagon on Gene has more or less started due to a sarcastic retort to a reaction-fishing question, leading to Gene's repeated defensive responses to scumhunting, rather than trying to efficiently retort and scumhunt in turn.
I'm not entirely sure how I should feel about self-admission to playing defensively (post 43). On one hand, being a new player and getting a hefty wagon on you barely three pages in is concerning. On the other hand Gene, you repeated the admission once again, specifically after being told that town shouldn't try to prove innocence. My gut reaction to that would be a vote on you, and I feel like I should follow through, because either you're being sincere about your lack of focus or you have motive to let this bandwagon build.
Unvote; Vote Gene[/card]
On the other hand, I'd like to ask yessiree a question: I see Post 46 being made immediately after Post 45 (as in, in the same minute). Why did you push your vote through without utilizing the additional post that Gene made to present a stronger case?
This makes me think even more than before that pebro isn't the remaining mafia. Here, Rikablu sits on the fence of an issue and decides to vote gene. If gene had been his partner, I think he would have used the apparent 50-50 nature of his dilemma to avoid voting for his buddy. Could be wrong, but that's the impression I get from Rikablu's approach to the game.
In post 203, Bicephalous Bob wrote:
I don't think yessirree is playing differently on purpose. This is both his and my first game on this forum and
I didn't know the exact winning condition of a townie until you stated it,
so that's a null tell or whatever you kids call it these days.
Also, saying that you don't find yessirree suspicious is one thing, but saying you don't understand why others find him suspicious is quite another. We're talking about the guy who said, "I am town. So I will not be lynched today, I will not be lynched tomorrow, and I will not be lynched on any day thereafter."
If you can explain why a townie would say that, I'll happily switch my vote back to CDB.
Wait what.
Vote Bicephalous Bob
Here, Rikablu is the first person to go after Bob for the supposed scumslip. Again, I don't think that Rikablu would do this to his buddy immediately - he'd rather let it slide and hope that nobody else noticed then jump on afterwards, I suspect.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:20 am
by ChannelDelibird
I also think Bacde's probably town, simply because I've read him as town throughout (well, in the parts of the game that I've actually read). I need to read the circumstances of yesterday's lynch next but DoctorPepper's reasoning about bussing is probably accurate, as well.
That leaves me with DoctorPepper and JKMatthews as remaining non-town reads. Time to investigate.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:23 am
by ChannelDelibird
Well, it almost certainly isn't DoctorPepper after ... y'know, the entirety of Day 2.
VOTE: JKMatthews
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:38 am
by DoctorPepper
Your theory looks interesting. I want to consider the possibility of a JKM bus.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:59 am
by Pebro
Hey Bob, could you explain your sudden change of mind yesterday?
VOTE: Bicephalous Bob
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:56 am
by ChannelDelibird
Pebro, what do you make of my 1006?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:16 pm
by JKMatthews
I don't like discounting anyway based on bussing - given that scum could've orchestrated something night one Dr P could still be scum. I really don't think he is, but it's silly to discount (especially after the NS death - Titus was after Dr P all day but only NS by association... with Titus flipped, Dr P was the obvious choice. WIFOM I guess, but still...)
To me CDB is the obvious choice as remaining scum(yay OMGUS!). I'd happily believe that Titus, seeing that one of the people she wanted lynched wasn't going to get there, would try to get on the CDB wagon for townie points, but before it was obvious that was her reasoning. We all agree he vote change to CDB was bizarre... why wouldn't it be for the bus?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:17 pm
by ChannelDelibird
Am I discouting DoctorPepper permanently? No. Am I discounting him when there are more likely candidates alive and we're not in a Lynch-or-Lose situation? Sure.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:43 pm
by JKMatthews
Good to know I guess.
But also yeah, Bacde's existence actually completely slipped my mind. He is by far my main suspect now that I remember he's playing. Can someone remind me why he's not the frontrunner here? Given all the divides that were being created yesterday, scum-Bacde had the options of bussing Titus (which probably would've taken a bit of effort on his part, and effort in this game clearly isn't his MO) or siding with Titus, which was obviously way too much of a risk. So he just sits on the sidelines doing almost literally nothing while we all yell at each other, and gets away with it... VOTE: Bacde
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:18 pm
by DoctorPepper
^This is a bad vote.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:48 pm
by JKMatthews
I'll let Bacde tell me why
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:20 pm
by DoctorPepper
How is it possible Im scum after Ns' death? This is pretty contingent on Titus flipping town. Wasnt it in fact just her trying to dissuade the wagon?
VOTE: JKM
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:23 pm
by DoctorPepper
Anyone up for mass claim?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:39 pm
by JKMatthews
The hell? It's unlikely you are, I just think it's unhealthy saying someone 100% isn't scum, because it'll stop you looking at them under proper scrutiny if they are scum and do slip up.
Notice how my suspicions were on CDB, then Bacde once I remember he was in this game?
Not keen for a mass claim. I'm giving any PRs enough credit to have already come forward if they had info that would break the game open.
Looking at the matrix, mayyyybeeee we could do that thing where one person claims, then that person choose the next person to claim ("popcorn"? I think I saw it called that once...), to deny scum the chance for a fakeclaim later, but do we really gain anything from that?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:45 pm
by DoctorPepper
JKM, I've played with scum Bacde, thats not him. Move your vote else where.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:25 pm
by JKMatthews
Does Bacde town just not play the game at all? I feel like your analysis is null if Bacde isn't participating in the game in the way he usually would for either faction. Don't you think I'm scum anyway though? Why are you trying to get me to change my vote elsewhere?
What are
your
thoughts on the mass claim?
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:18 am
by DoctorPepper
He literally said he didnt think Titus was scum. If that wasnt any indication he wasnt bussing, I dont know what it.
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:18 am
by DoctorPepper
PS. I suggested it, so what the hell do you think I think?
Scum fillering much?
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:07 am
by Bacde
To be fair I've also NOT-bussed in games before DrP
Why is it that just because I didn't vote for Titus I have to be town? What about my play this game seems different to you than my scumplay?