Magical Girls UPick - Heart of Shadow (Game Over)

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I'll respond to rcs shitty case on me later

fuck off with this

even my pops case was a great case even if she was town

why does everyone have to gaslight me regardless of their alignment?

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unless it's literally DDL/HH(/OS)

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.|.

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ok

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like have i been on the receiving end of enough shit this game that i can stop pretending to take it with equanimity and actually express my feelings on it yet?

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like have i been on the receiving end of enough shit this game that i can stop pretending to take it with equanimity and actually express my feelings on it yet?

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man

every other respected townie has been wrong at least 4 days in a row

yet i'm expected to hit scum on the earliest phases of the game with insane regularity and when i don't i get shit on for it?

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also when do you ever take it with " equanimity" and not "actually express my feelings on it"...

i have kept my mouth shut about my feelings about a lot of things this game. do you wanna know what i actually feel about this game?

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like all these posts about bringing me an ego check. they're objectively, consistently, what scum hide behind to discredit me. read any of my recent games and see scum saying shit like that constantly to try to get my goat.
why do i have to deal with town making the exact same sort of obviously and objectively bad faith arguments scum do and be forced to try to sort whether they come from town or scum?

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like no one believes this. no one believes that i'm not a good player. any sort of statistical argument precludes believing i'm good. so why do you say that shit anyway?

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believing i'm not good.

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most people when they see someone make a clearly bad faith argument get to assume that they're scum but i have to try and decide whether it's town who just hates me for out of game reasons or it's scum.

it's not a great position to be in!

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like if people like LE would actually put the slightest mental effort into assuming i'm genuinely trying to read them and make a genuine attempt to convince me that they're town i wouldn't end up mislynching them
but instead they chose to call me several combinations of scum, asshole, bad human being, person who sexualizes the role of mislynching them, etcetera and never actually tried to talk to me as a human ebing

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i'm only as respected as my performance dictates and probably respected a lot less than my performance dictates given the general distaste a lot of people seem to have for em.

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did i not make a case? jw

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every other respected townie has been wrong at least 4 days in a row

Yeah but you say shit like: wow I get day 1 right 60 percent of the time, and if i get day 1 wrong i get day 2 right 100 percent of the time, and ive never made it to day 3 and im the best scumhunter and gods gift in mafia.

literally this game.

how is calling your case on me bad offensive in any way. Even if you disagree with [2] - [4], [1] is objectively a bad case

here's the thing

if you're scum, it's perfectly reasonable and correct.

if not... we have a problem.

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grrrrrrrr

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like i odn't have a problem with what you're doing if you're scum which i think you are. i totally get this is your ~gameplan~ and shit or whatever.

what i have a problem with is that so many townies decide to also interact with me in bad faith and then after having done so get mad at me for scumreading them

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le deserved to be mislynched if only for attempting to gaslight me for not breaking site rules in the attempt to convince people that they were scum and declaring 1v1s with 3 separate people who are now confirmed town.

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le deserved to be mislynched if only for attempting to gaslight me for not breaking site rules in the attempt to convince people that they were scum and declaring 1v1s with 3 separate people who are now confirmed town.

Did they actually do all that rofl

yes

gaslighting refers to their engagement with me refusing to cite information from the ongoing scum game on MU
i don't remember who exactly the 3 were but i remember 1 was bitmap

so obviously there's 3 towns in there. so that's an unfair characterization

??????????

if anything that just makes my characterization more correct

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I don’t like how DDL is pushing what reads to me like an NAI thing this hard.

on the contrary the information from wow RCE is lynched instead of HH is key in breaking apart this game.

if you're town you don't even know what alignment HH is.

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funny because my argument is that scum didn't intend to keep RcE alive and you trying to make the game a question of who tried to keep RcE alive plays exactly into that.

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Depends on the playerlist.

Read the first 5 pages of access point
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=79133

Note also that rc ended up scum that game,and see how many people "locked-town" him before page 5

yeah yeah yeah

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Just let us submit a motivate and have our green flip be one final fuck you to rc lmao

has anyone considered engaging with my scumreads on them in good faith instead of freaking out and essentially saying that it's ok if you get lynched as long as you stick it to me?

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DDl's posting today is actually pretty towny tbh

VOTE: CS

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also sheeping both masons, so there's that.

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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I think Oversoul would actually be playing this game if he were town.

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VOTE: Oversoul

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We still know for a fact that HH objectively

1) lied about her role to white knight a townie who was really all over the place
2) has engaged with the game in very far from good faith throughout the game
3) blew up at me for mislynching someone in a way that doesn't make a lot of sense to me coming from town but i can see from an informed pov
4) then subbed out despite thinking that they had already been vigged and put someone else into that slot.

these aren't conjecture these are iron-clad facts.

so what everyone has to ask themselves is, do they actually think all of this comes from town MariaR/Shadoweh, that my existence pushes them so far outside of reasonable play that all of this is possible, or that their slot is just scum who failed to relate to what it was actually like being town this game?

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i'm in my medium place where i can have all the tea i want but it's shitty brands and i never have any milk

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Ok so, regarding Croag, apparently GIF forgot that i sent him the action and didnt resolve it, so basically it's as if we never speared her.
-Tana

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Ok so, regarding Croag, apparently GIF forgot that i sent him the action and didnt resolve it, so basically it's as if we never speared her.
-Tana

Can you spear today? I only care to coordinate.

I already speared OS when i thought we were lynching DDL, i need to like... stop being so hasty with these things. Also i havent paid much attention to this game lately, but i dont think CS is scum here, i think DDL has high chance of being scum, so does OS. Idek what's going through RC's head right now but... it's concerning coz the people he's SR i just dont see as scum at all atm.
-Tana

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On one hand tho, if OS is scum, the spear prevents them from doing vote shenanigans, they may be town, but they may have a lylo clause or something, I think that role is kind of OP for scum to have, but im taking the safer route here. Good thing tho is that if Croag is town, the mod error might have saved our only shot at stopping NKs right now. That reminds me, why didnt scum shoot croag? hmm.
-Tana

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Ok so, regarding Croag, apparently GIF forgot that i sent him the action and didnt resolve it, so basically it's as if we never speared her.
-Tana

Can you spear today? I only care to coordinate.

I already speared OS when i thought we were lynching DDL, i need to like... stop being so hasty with these things. Also i havent paid much attention to this game lately, but i dont think CS is scum here, i think DDL has high chance of being scum, so does OS. Idek what's going through RC's head right now but... it's concerning coz the people he's SR i just dont see as scum at all atm.
-Tana

let's go with OS then.

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Im not pushing rc
I just think hes a negative asset to the town

you realize

at the time cw flipped he was tied for my absolute top scumread (with you). you called CW bad but towny.
at the time rce flipped he was my back and forth 3rd/4th scumread. you correctly scumread them so checkmark to you.

you went into EoD1 saying that there were 2+ scum on the LE wagon. 2 scum have flipped and neither were on the LE wagon. i got shot for rebutting you and saying that there was likely at most 1 scum on the LE wagon.

was i wrong on LE? yeah. was I wrong on Pops? sure, but i listened to the person was right.

nothing that has happened so far in this game makes my reads look anything but great without a townflip on OS.

Yeah OS isn't a high odd scum flip. Violates the neighbor rule.

neighbour rule legitimately is irrelevant when you're talking about competent scum players. no good scum player has any reservations about being neighbouring votes, mariar included.

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Maria lied about her role, that alone should be justification for lynching them.

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Also there is a transformation missing from Night 1 that nobody has claimed when I asked so technically they an active ability could've NK'ed them as well.
Just saying for future reference if needed, going back to my life, bb

did u account our transformation due to getting shot on that.
-Tana

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Maria lied about her role, that alone should be justification for lynching them.

Explain please.

On day 1 they said they could confirm LE so everyone should unvote them. They have no capacity to clear LE. With LE's reads and having declared 1v1s with at least 3 town, keeping them alive would be extremely pro-scum. I realize that you townread people getting mad at me because you get mad at me but it's really not towny.

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Can we lynch OS and shoot Dann if it's wrong

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i don't think dann is scum. i think this game can still very easily be a town loss.
technically we've flipped 2 scums but they were both ultra-LHF. killing them barely put us closer to wincondition and they were gonna die either way.
titus is a viable mislynch even though she's town, katsuki/lld will probably get lynched or killed soon if we don't hit scum, etc.

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i can towncase Dannflor: can you or can anyone else towncase HH?

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Let's assume you're right for a moment. In fact, I already did that at the top of the page. People flashwagoned LLD, giving evidence she's town. That wagon was lead by you. You also killed it.

The wagon that ended yesterday on scum, you weren't interested in.

until you know OS's alignment, you cannot make any conclusions about what me "not being interested in" that wagon means.

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i can towncase Dannflor: can you or can anyone else towncase HH?

Go ahead but I think you should take a back seat RC. Your reads have been off.

If HH is/was scum I have had the best reads in the game by far all game.

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I was referring to you not being interested in the RCE wagon.

It was a low priority wagon on a player who was going to die before endgame anyway and who was reasonably likely to be scum but not the highest value pick.
I believe I said at several points both to SHana and in game that RcE could easily have been scum.

But we've flipped him, and now we're here, and I wish we didn't flip him because people are holding that against me even though it's mechanically confirmed that scum bussed.

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Sakura hana can confirm these are moderately altered paraphrases from our discussion but

overnight night 1: "LLD put CS and CW as her highest scumreads
if she tries to derail those wagons, something's up"

me finding out about the RcE flip but before the flip was posted: "This could be mafia, it's one of the big slots I think is wolfy"

So again, you keep saying that my reads have been bad but that hasn't actually been true outside of LE and if HH was scum it means that I've done better than literally anyone in this game.

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Like it's simply objectively untrue that my reads have been bad. All over the place maybe but my reads are always all over the place. At least, not without an HH flip.
And I think scumreading CS night 1 is very forgivable since they tried to push all discussion onto the LE wagon being scum when we have seen 2 scumflips not on the LE wagon.

Huh
Ok
Anyway maybe I can towncase HH but I just don't see the point here. Its down to a few players and I have my reasons to prefer Dann over OS
If you want towncase Dann. I would be interested to see your PoV. Tho I can't say I can be convinced at this point

Why do I get the feeling half of the players on this game are getting off on dismissing my reads even if their reason for doing so is objectively false?

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Like literally my entire thing with CS was them coming in opportunistically in twilight 1 talking about how I hafta scumread people on the LE wagon when I gut felt the wagon as town. there's still no scum flips on that wagon. So I'm scumreading them for doing something that still, to all information we have now, is scum motivated.

I can be wrong on them actually being scum but them pushing a lot of scum motivated shit on D1 is an objective fact.

OS is def dying tonight so dont fight guuys
@Croag can you rolestop me tonight as well

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I am going to fight. If OS doesn't flip scum as I expect you're free to do what you gotta do but I have learned better after past games than to risk situations like this.
There are plenty of universes where you decide at night to shoot someone else and we end up in 7 way tomorrow with 2 scum still alive.

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In post 4238, RadiantCowbells wrote:
I don't want RcE dead at all

Given that his scumflip is being used to attack my reads and force mislynches, why do you think that I felt that way despite thinking that he was scum a solid % of the tiem?

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Like I get that it's the biggest turn on in your life to sit here and call me wrong on something and bask in the glow of your perceived superiority as a player but all you're doing is proving my reluctance to lynch RcE correct.

I'm giving you two days, as we'll have gone through the lurker pool. Dann and Croag are better picks though.

Nah.

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I think this game will be lost if we do not lynch exactly OS today.

Don't act like all the other wrong reads don't exist. Take a back seat. Vote Dann or Croag or towncase them.

You're not better at this game than I am and no amount of selfdelusion will change that.

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In general, probably not. In this game I have had large amounts of emotional turmoil but still managed to block scum and push comes to shove vote scum even when you threatened me for doing so. Your insults do not scare me anymore.

for as long as HH's alignment is an unknown factor you really can't say anything.

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people I didnt want lynched flipped town

you mean like CW?

You literally townread 50% of flipped scum.

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i think that gameplay is competent

i don't think that you are and i think that you killing a bunch of town can very easily lead to us losing

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like my position here is super obviously NAI, you know how I feel about your scumhunting. please stop trying to use it against me.

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like and i actually think popsofctown wasn't a bad vig shot even if town because their flip was iron clad in terms of proving that no scumteam existed where scum hadn't been bussing at least somewhat.
i don't think you're going to agree to make a good safe vig shot tonight. i'm not actually sure that one exists, for one thing.

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pops was 100% a bad vig shot what are you talking about.
-Tana

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im not immune to anything

sooooooooo

Alright, I'll verify the mod resolved my action.

Well the mod's confirmed to have... forgotten my action D2 sooo.
-Tana

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If you guys are just gonna ignore everything i've said and done this game just to get at RC then im just gonna stop posting and let RC fully drive the hydra because it's annoying being here and feel like i dont exist.
-Tana

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like I understand being within the PoE, that's fine

I don't exactly understand the scum reads on me

i accept dannflor being in the poe. i don't accept him being people's top scumread.

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Following that train of logic, were he to flip town after would you agree that you should be roleblocked and vigged as a counter guilty?

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DDL I don’t remember you being this aggressive in Undertale Semi-Open. Both your posting style and your tone in the posts.

this is the closest thing to a solve post from OS

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I think TE is probably town. Don’t see TE doing that to HH as scum

sorry clarify this for me: exactly what did I do to HH?

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hmm

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you're not wrong.

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we speared Dann so don't shoot him he'll be RBed

Titus holster Gameplay shoot at will.

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Gg town
Why do I always replace into scum slots

did u think that was ever not a scum slot

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like didn't you learn from our last game that my scumreads aren't good slots to replace into?

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I'm quite glad i told RC to go with his gut.
-Tana

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Also 1 scum left after this ig we can ask GIF to acelerate the night.
-Tana

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Still wouldn't surprise me if Oversoul's town but she cracked.

is this easier for you than having to face that i'm actually a pretty good mafia player?

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I think she cant believe that you were right and that her VCA neighbor thing was wrong.
That's a double shocker.
-Tana

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CW never went above being one of my top 3 scumreads from literally the earliest pages of the game
RcE was a nullread all of D1 then became a mild scumread D2... just that I thought that HH was a better lynch... who has now self hammered and is presumably flipping scum.

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HH being scum literally single handedly propels me to the title of best townie in this game.
My top scumreads have flipped scum twice now. My fourth highest scumread was also scum.

LE wasn't my top scumread on D1 even, I just thought that they would never get lynched if we let them go D1 and I didn't want that and I used that wagon to solve this game.

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Tana has been pretty amazing <3

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You thought half the game was worth wagoning over RCE. You threatened me for being correct in my block and vote.

i thought exactly 3 players were worth wagoning over RcE and I only led on one of them who flipped scum

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I do have to admit that OS flipping scum makes me realize that DDL is more than likely town.
-Tana

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Being wrong on LE wasn't your fault, it solved the game.

I led on 1 wrong lynch and we're at end of day 3 with 3 dead scum. HH was my pet lynch and was townread by my most players before I dealt with that situation.

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You thought half the game was worth wagoning over RCE. You threatened me for being correct in my block and vote.

Yeah Titus he derailed a wagon from one scum to another scum. And RCE was a scumread of mine that i wanted to pursue while RC scumread HH. Now can you please stop harassing my hydra partner.
-Tana

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Like RC's doing his damned best to solve this game and im getting tired of you discrediting him because at some point he didnt want to lynch RCE. And even if you thought RC's reads are bad (they arent) i exist too.
-Tana

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titus its not worth your time

you know, if you guys didn't insist on portraying me as worse than the evidence dictates, i wouldn't have to argue or talk about how good I am.
everyone was shitting on me last game too, and then it turned out my reads were dead on.

everyone spent this entire game day shitting on me for derailing on RcE, who I actually scumread, and now that it's proven that I was voting another scum everyone's still calling me bad.

it's clear that this isn't about my reads, this is about you all wanting to get something over me and knock me down a peg even if i only make statements about my ability that facts support.

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I had neutered RCE already.

RC if you didn't falsely claim credit and denigrate me, maybe I'd listen more. When you threaten me on behalf of scum, I will not trust you.

Talk to me through Tana. I am in too much pain to deal with you RC.

i literally just want to slow the pace of this game so we can solve this game instead of just slaughtering people and hoping the game eventually ends

i'm just salty that i had a soulread on Eva who got lynched and the people who i gave a shit about to actually push were scum. you pushed me for not being a good enough player to come up with good reads without tmi

in a game where we knew that scum had to have been bussing, your posts looked the most like bussing. is that so wrong of me to believe?

RC thinks we're incapable. You and me, let's beat him.

i don't think anyone's incapable. i listen to people. i screwed up on LE but I listened to tana when i was wrong on pops and we led on scum consecutively twice in a row.
if you make a case i'm not going to ignore it, but i'm not going to assign your reads any special value because they come from you. it's that simple.

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like

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Titus, you haven't cased dannflor yet. you have given no supporting evidence for him being scum besides your name being on it. i don't trust your name.
how is that different from you refusing to fall me on oversoul? at least I consistently lead on scum, you don't have a good record AND you're expecting to be sheeped on your good name.

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i wouldn't be so bitchy if everyone else wasn't bitchy towards me.

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it is extremely fine for town if we don't get a vig shot at all.

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how the fuck did i break her what exactly is it that i did to her

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i did nothing to maria and shadoweh.

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them being crybaby fucks who tactically replaced out of a scum loss is nothing to do with me.

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them being crybaby fucks who tactically replaced out of a scum loss is nothing to do with me.

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

tana's pretty amazing.

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Tana > Ephraim

While i like that you think that way, im one of the people on site who actually values RC's reads a lot and im one of the first to sheep him when he's trying to game solve because i know he's a good scumhunter if everyone that doesnt see what he does doesnt get in his way just because it's RC. RC came from being a player that could hardly explain his reads and now that he can he's a pretty strong player, but you need a strong player to take leadership and strongarm lynches sometimes or you wont catch scum. I know that i probably would've never caught HH if it wasnt for him, heck up until OS scum claimed i still thought OS was barely scum here but i told RC to go with his gut.

-Tana

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Like RC, Katsuki and zmuffin are some of the people i will sheep unless i scumread because i know they are better than me most of the time, so sheeping them is most likely to help me lynch scum than trusting my own reads.
-Tana

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when did I

ever

vote you this game or call you anything besides town?

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also: I was wrong on the read, sure. but I wasn't

wrong

for lynching LE in the way that Shadoweh implied that I was. it wasn't a shitty person move. it was a bad read.

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I freaked out because of pressure put on me and abuse directed at me and had a minibreakdown and had to rebuild. I very quickly figured out you were town again.

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That happened when i told RC that GIF doesnt put a town vig and a scum redirector on the same game, which made pops, his strongest SR, town by claim, as scummy as the role was (or you guys portrayed it to be), and i still think that pops was very towny this game.
-Tana

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And look, pops did redirect scum to themselves too!
-Tana

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I dont understand why pops needed to be vigged over someone like DDL, or Dann. I understand not vigging HH because you guys thought HH was dying anyway.
-Tana

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someone

had

to be scum bussing and you read more like TMI than anyone else. It's not personal, the way I pushed it was hyperbole to help me make the push.

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It was really insulting to be told you’re not good enough to have good reads and be confident about it without tmi
Please for the love of god dont do that to anyone else

One time i scumread someone (correctly) for townreading town!me and scumreading scum!croag out of literally thin air. And I was correct and the town proceeded to never lynch them.
-Tana

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Let's just say, we've all made mistakes this game (except scum, coz they need to "make mistakes" to win), but dumping all responsibility for mistakes onto RC is unfair.
-Tana

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With two vigs, I felt we couldn't take the chance. I knew there was a chance I was wrong. I don't regret the shot.

You were right. I take responsibility for the shot. I'd still repeat it.

I would make that shot anytime as a vig. It's too valuable.

You were right. I feel sorry for pops.

Wait, so I'm terrible for not regretting my D1 mislynch but you're not terrible for not regretting your misvig? @_@

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titus you really need to realize how hypocritical your treatment of me is.

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If he wants all the credit, he can take all the blame.

but i didn't get any of the credit, did i? if you honestly gave me credit for my role bringing down HH and for my scumread on CW from very early on we wouldn't be having this conversation
you can hold my mistakes against me if you give me appropriate credit for my successes.

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i get all the blame for my mistakes but none of the credit for my successes

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popsofctown (6): Tana and Ephraim, Titus, gameplay506, Bitmap, Dannflor, Sailor Senshi

+CS intent.

From here probably Dann or CS maybe?
Unless scum is all in the lurkers.
-Tana

Btw tomorrow we should be looking at this more seriously
And possibly also double check the final VC of day 1 again.
Also check who voted for HH when we didnt know RCE was hammered.
-Tana

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like i scumread scum and that's all 'welp thats RC' so no one really cares
but when I hit town it's like damn and everyone comes out of the woodwork to be like "SEE? SEE? RC ISNT THAT GOOD LOOK HE JUST MICLYNCHED TOWN LOOK LOOK HES TRASH GARBAGE"
even in this game where i was actually trying to lead on the far better entrenched and more competent scum hydra, before that was actually prove, everyone leaps at the opportunity to take the uncertain information and twist it in the worst possible way to hit me in the nuts about how trash I am at mafia. even after HH's alignment is known, people are still shitting on me.

it's not intellectually honest. it's not fair. if you wanna hate me that's fine but if you're hating me for my confidence, the way to fix that isn't to dishonestly attack my abilities.

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Im sad to say this, but i think i seriously need to start considering 1 of SS/Dann/CS a suspect. There's no way pops wagon was all town.
-Tana

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Which most likely means Dann but he's getting speared tonight so.
-Tana

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if dann's scum we'll be able to prove it later when he can't use his transform. gameplay can take his shot wherever.

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This game was honestly bullshit between masons

10000 roleblockers and doctors.

VOTE: Oversoul

I generally dont like to read into scum's posts much coz they most likely contain wifom but.
Do i see this here being an indication that Titus and Croag are pretty much conftown?
-Tana

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"as bad as"

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deep wolf

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deep wolf deep wolf

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everyone who came before me sucks

everyone who came after me sucks

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sryrana n mathdino my boys

every1 else sux

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last scum is SS if you actually want to end the game tonight but I figure you'll shoot some shiny lynchbait instead.

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do you want to end the game tonight or do you want to shoot shiny lynchbait?

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to be fair I kinda want you to not shoot SS because I want to take some of the agony that the scumteam tactically inflicted on me this game back on them but if you want to end the game, shoot SS.

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sry for being salty

but given the actions of shadoweh mariar and krazy you should understand why.

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like i could goodcase this to show off but i don't even care anymore, i just want this game over.

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are you interested in a case on them to reassure you

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i genuinely think it's pretty obvious with the flips that we have now.

they kept calling RcE scum day 1 but would use excuse after excuse after excuse to not vote them. even when they called RcE out for a 'slip' they demanded an explanation instead of voting them.
using MariaR's readslist they're literally the only person in the townread bin that could be scum and they also make a ton of sense as scum besides
they kept fishing for whether or not the HH kill was actually locked yesterday and have been as vocally uncertain about their alignment as possible without supporting it.
the way they recently referenced HH 'throwing the slot then leaving' is absolutely a scum PoV post

also, i think that any scum if me/krazy was TvT would have treated it as a TvT. but that's not what happened. MariaR danced around it when said that RcE was defending a buddy, RcE made a weird comment about how the thing was a distraction and shaded Sailor, even CW did something which I don't quite remember right now. I think that because SS was scum scum were uncomfortable townreading the slot outright so they made those weird comments, then MariaR made the smart play and decided to position Sailor Senshi as a top townread. like I said about Maria -> RcE interactions being highly likely SvS, her reactions with Sailor Senshi are also playing into one of her common scum interaction patterns and the

entire game

there's been this undercurrent of hostility towards me and I strongly suspect for various reasons that are hard to put into a good sound byte that Krazy and HH were aligned. there's also the fact that their role and their DDL role interactions were scum through and through.

and then just generally nd's scumhunting is trash and not on her town level and they actually have pushed basically every townie this game but danced around pushing RcE and defended the other two flipped scum.



Hey, this'll look really bad for me if they flip town but i don't think that's likely and honestly if people are still going to shit on me after the correct HH lead then that's their problem.

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this is all ignoring the most important thing, that krazy's spat with me was fucking bullshit and scummy through and through but apparently people townread him for that so...

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did I mention the fact that all 3 of the heads lurksacked until they got forced to produce content?

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hi gameplay

i won't hate you if you shoot elsewhere btw.

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"arguing"

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actually nvm i remembered who the playerlist was again. there'd definitely be lots of arguing.

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funny that I used two arguments that were originally proposed by Titus in my case against SS and she's still going to cry about how egotistical I am and how I never listen to anyone else.

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Ok, so, I just got informed by GIF that our role works not like how i thought it did, but apparently we've been transforming every night since we got shot to stay alive and now with the gauge broken we will die at the start of the next day phase.
-Tana

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Kinda funny in a way, since what RC said to avoid getting shot is becoming true.
-Tana

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How did my kills go through with the transformation gauge being broken lol

Afaik, the action still goes through, but no one can transform today or tonight.
As for us, well, basically RC bluffed again when saying we needed to get shot twice in a row, there's nothing stopping our death now, so I'll explain.
When we die (by any means) we self revive and it upgrades our spear, when we die again (by any means) it upgrades our spear again and we self revive again, but would die at the end of the next day. I assumed that dying would make us transform and that's it, but apparently we've been transforming every night to stay alive and i JUST NOW discovered this because I asked the mod if we could still use the spear with the gauge broken and just not self revive and he told me that we're gonna die at the beginning of the next day.
VOTE: Dann
-Tana