As a player in Jebus' last large game, I feel I need to comment on this one as well.
1.)
If there were no scum players on Day One, then Town should have won on Day One, by definition. Days One and Two were not mafia. They were merely the Mod laughing at a Town that is helplessly hurting itself.
2.)
I cannot put into words my sheer anger at seeing that a group of four players who thought they were Town were suddenly turned into the Mafia group in the middle of the game.
Really, what is even the point of searching for scum in such a set-up?
Scumhunting should be able to include reading back on the
entire
game and searching for scum. Here, a large portion of the game was pretty much made useless because of this ridiculous mechanic. At best, there might have been inherent connections between the "neighbors," but the neighbors (who have not had any of their alignments confirmed to each other) still do not have a reason to protect each other anyways.
3.)
Arbitrarily making new Serial Killers is an alignment change without consent (as is turning a Neighbor group into a Mafia group), something I am and always have been opposed to. Not only that, but this was apparently done as "punishment" for lynching a Townie.
That is entirely counter-intuitive. The town is literally better off lynching power roles just to avoid turning players into Serial Killers.
4.)
I am not very sympathetic to the Mafia group who is complaining that the "town did nothing" to deserve a win. The Mafia also probably did not deserve much praise (granted, I have not actually read the game)
precisely because
they had the benefit of being town for the
first two game Days
.
That means that if the Town managed to read you correctly on Days One and Two, you still get those benefits on Days Three and beyond. The Mafia group was given a ridiculous advantage from the very beginning of the game, because they didn't know they were the Mafia group. The effects of this on the game cannot really be quantified.
Remember: the Serial Killers were once Townies, too. The fact that they killed off the Mafia is probably indicative of "Who would this Townie kill if they have had a Vig kill?" Obviously, if they were actually turned into Vigilantes they might have submitted different kills, but the Serial Killers still had every incentive to try and kill Mafia.
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I could talk more, but this should suffice to show that this set-up was ridiculous. I feel bad for the players who had to muddle through.
