AmeliaSlay is currently on Vacation/Limited Access, and Ibaesha hasn't posted anywhere on the site since last Thursday. They both don't seem to be here.
Also, for when Ibaesha comes back:
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I haven't moved M-M into the 100% protown column yet, PJ. Curious that you have. Considering you're not going to exert your "mayoral powers" on today's lynch, I'm not so displeased that you'll be locked in tonight.PJ wrote:Lynching scum today means that a kill on M-M would take away one town role (unless he is protected, of course).
What the Hell? Why are you directing this atMrBuddyLee wrote:I haven't moved M-M into the 100% protown column yet, PJ. Curious that you have.
PJ wrote:Based on information, I think MBF is innocent (he has been investigated innocent, and his ability has been proven on me) and Machiavellian-Mafia (investigated ability, the note on D1 confirming his ability, and gut feeling) is innocent.
Notice how MBF, M-M, and myself are not CES's list. Implicit statement that he thinks the three of us are town.CES wrote:My list:
Drummer, obv. If he's town, then so is Amelia. I have trouble believing that.
Amelia, the Drummer connection.
MBL, could well be the third man.
Ibaesha, looking pretty pro-town.
Oh, here's another person who thinks he's town...Drummer wrote:MM and Mike--Thok's info made it seem like they're probably good guys.
Fancy that! Another person not including M-M in their scum list.AmeliaSlay wrote:What PJ said yesterday though, kind of clicked. If the claims we have thus far have all been affirmed in some form or fashion, then logically the scum remaining should fall amongst the group Drummer, CES, MBL, and Ibaesha.
... and another.Ibaesha wrote:Confirmed ability and alignment: MBF and M-M
Earth to PJ. In my recent posts I discussed scenarios for night actions tonight that assumed Drummer was getting lynched. I've been asking him tough questions all day including 1013 and particularly 1017. You know, my post that ended with:PJ wrote:I am really starting to think you are scum doing everything in your power to stall a Drummer-lynch. With four days until deadline, this looks like flailing and distractions to me.
What the hell are you talking about, PJ? Is this a kneejerk response to the fact that I spotted a post where you made the assumption that M-M was town?MBL wrote:Dude, you(Drummer) claim to have investigated M-M night 3. You got yellow, he said he was on yellow Day one. You knew your sanity. Something is not right with you.
All these quotes lead me to believe you're scum. Quite possibly with Amelia and CES.
PJ, there's a big difference between what you said, which basically assumed as fact that M-M was town, and what the people you cited said, which was to either leave M-M off a list of likely scum or to state that he's not the lynch today. It may have been careless nothings by you, PJ, but careless nothings is how we catch scum around here and you really shouldn't chastise me for pointing out your slip.PJ wrote:What the Hell? Why are you directing this at me? Have you bothered reading the rest of the game? Here's what people have been saying about M-M todayMBL wrote:I haven't moved M-M into the 100% protown column yet, PJ. Curious that you have.
Any proposed plan is totally moot unless we know who has night actions and who doesn't. I said as much right there, indicating that my plan was purely hypothetical and that maybe we should color claim and see if there's a way to win by blocking/tracking etc. I'm glad you pointed out the flaws in the hypothetical, but honestly it wasn't going to get railroaded through without discussion to find the flaws and fine-tune it once we knew who wasn't locked in.MBL wrote:We should discuss the possibility of no-lynch and color claim. Since whoever's on red and green will be locked in, we can't rely on their night actions going through, but we don't know who we can't count on right now.
This include me? Hell, I dunno. If we lynch Drummer then I'll probably target Ibby, since she's the only person that I suspect who isn't locked out.I'd also like to see the four people not locked in tonight suggest plans of action for lynch and tonight.
Mod: May I ask for a deadline extension, please, to assure all players are present and accounted for?
AndMBL wrote:Your obsession with my "ROADMAPZ 4 SCUM ZOMG" is irking me.
That's what I'm trying to do: for a town to secure a win, you must lynch scum. I have been trying to do exactly that consistently throughout the game.MBL wrote:More importantly, let's focus on what to do today to try and guarantee a win. Ibby, we need to hear from you. If your action tonight or your previous results can help us, now is the time to say so. If you think it's best you not reveal, it would be good to at least hear a general reasoning of why.
What kind of statement is that? I can rebut just the same:MBL wrote:If you are scum, that could have been a scumtell.
Here's another thing I noticed:MBL wrote:If I am town, that could not have been a scumtell. Hooray for non-statements!
So nowMBL wrote:Free to move tonight
M-M ("confirmed" tracker): Yellow
Ibby (??): Yellow
Drummer (color cop): blue
MBF (fumigator): blue ("CONFIRMED" innocent by Thok)
So perhaps this game isn't as predictable as one would think.VitaminR wrote:Here's why I am against floor-claiming:
My room number deviates from the expected 4 neat groups of 3.
Can we move on now?
This makes sense to me. The flavor aligns. The mafia might have a few different ways to disrupt everyone. Killings, roleblockings. Hm.PJ wrote:Amelia's claim sounds like a disgruntled person, which would be perfect for scum. I think CES said scum were "Anti-Simon Operatives". Amelia claimed to come to the tournament as an advertiser, but that she was denied (or something, I can't remember off-hand), and that she found a key.
And now she is locking people in their own rooms because she is disgruntled.
Okay. Do you and MM want to explain how this makes me scummy? Obviously I *do* have the ability and I *did* get through the door. How else would I have known his floor, hm? All I can guess is that MBL unlocked his door somehow. Or maybe there's another player that can unlock a door each night or something(far-fetched). But if I did have locked-door penetration abilities, I probably would have been able to get out of my own room N1, don't ya think?MBF wrote:Drummer wrote:WOAH! You're right, that's screwed up. I cannot explain this.MBL wrote:I was also somewhat surprised that Drummer was able to target me with his ability night 2, considering I'm on a locked floor.
I can.
Vote Drummer
I've been pushing Drummer's lynch. If Amelia and I are scum together, we won't be able to kill with Drummerscum dead. How is this in my best interests?PJ wrote:If my guess at the scumgroup is correct [Drummer, Amelia, MBL] their play today makes perfect sense. Because MBL is in Red, and Amelia is in Green. And the locked Floors tonight are Red and Green.
Fancy that! If Drummer is lynched and that is the scum-group, the scum won't be able to kill tonight. I am now much more worried at MBL's suggestion of No-Lynch, and I am that much more convinced that Drummer needs to go today.
I figured I'd take the time to point out this happy nugget of information.Drummer wrote:This makes sense to me. The flavor aligns. The mafia might have a few different ways to disrupt everyone. Killings, roleblockings. Hm.PJ wrote:Amelia's claim sounds like a disgruntled person, which would be perfect for scum. I think CES said scum were "Anti-Simon Operatives". Amelia claimed to come to the tournament as an advertiser, but that she was denied (or something, I can't remember off-hand), and that she found a key.
And now she is locking people in their own rooms because she is disgruntled.
I'm thinking about voting MBL again. I'm getting really suspicious of him.
So apparently you are also of the opinion that there aren't two role blockers. Let me reiterate that I DID NOT block you.m-m wrote:Also THANK GOD that Amelia won't be blocking me tonight.
I appreciate the vote of confidence! Ditto on the bit about PJ. And, having been the object of PJ's suspicions in a couple of games now...I've noticed that the way he is pursuing his suspicions of me is disimiliar in style to how I've seen him scum hunting before... and it really got me thiinking.MBF wrote:I still don't think Amelia is scum, and I'm really becoming suspicious of PJ too. His refusal to acknowledge that here were two roleblockings each night is irksome, and his theory or targetting red floors seems to be a red herring. I think he's attempting to sacrifice Drummer just so he can mislead the town's next lynch instead. Or maybe Drummer himself is innocent. But if that's the case, then I'm pretty sure that the group is PJ, Ibby, and CES