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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:57 am
by Faraday
Thanks for reading my post and answering my questions Bogre.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:58 am
by Col.Cathart
Datadanne wrote:Seraphim, ZazieR and Faraday is scum.
SpyreX and Col.Colhart are cult.
Ok, since you're not the first one to make that mistake: It's Cathart, not Colhart.

Also, unless you believe in presence of day-killing cult member, then your logic is flawed.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:59 am
by Faraday
Stop responding to Data's retarded posts. You honestly think there's 6 scum a cult and data sk?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:06 am
by Col.Cathart
Faraday wrote:Tjoe is probably scum.

Read him in iso. He doesn't vote untill like page 9, fos's X then follows up w/ a vote but gets off onto whoot for putting X @ L-1 (that's not scummy)

X where are you post (iso 32) looks like him trying to prod a scumbuddy to get active to avoid being lynched.
Today he votes whoot who was clearly making sure it was known he was a cop and votes me for no reason despite not really mentioning me before now.

This guys probably scum of some sort, not sure what. Most likely mafia, mebbe.
I suggest reading Jordan/Cateraction and X in ISO. They both jumped Tjoe's wagon, when there was absolutely no reason for bussing, as we were still in the early mid-game. I'm pretty sure Tjoe is not a scum. Cult? Maybe but unlikely (he's not really the most juicy recruit target around, and if he would be the leader, I think he would recruit me in the first place, as we already know ourselves from several other games here). Scum? Nope.

Not to mention, that in comparison to two games I played with him, where he was a scum, he's a now an avatar of scumhunting.

Also, point taken about Data.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:09 am
by Faraday
Eh I've played with Tjoe before and he was town, I don't know he seems different here than there but that's about it. He could be scum he could be town I find it hard enough to get a read on him.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:42 am
by SpyreX
Seriously, stop feeding the SK.
The chances of that being a double bus for Tjoe are minimal (and, again, even if that is the rationale that is NOT THE RIGHT ONE FOR THE LYNCH TODAY).

Actually, I'll go into more detail later but I think we can nix some serious names from the list for who cult leader cuold be:

BloodCovenent
Bogre
Faraday
Mufasa
Seraphim
Tjoe Min Ja

Now, I don't remember who the cops have claimed innos on (I'm tired and about to go to the dentist) but if they are in the above I'd safely say remove them as well.

I'll explain in detail. That list has the right lynch for the day.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:16 am
by Mufasa
I think bogre should go before faraday
unvote vote faraday

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:45 am
by Faraday
Mufasa wrote:I think bogre should go before faraday
unvote vote faraday
wat.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:12 am
by Mufasa
I was thinking one thing writing another
unvote vote bogre

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:45 pm
by StrangerCoug
VOTE COUNT

Bogre (2): Faraday, Mufasa
Datadanne (1): Seraphim
Faraday (4): BloodCovenent, Col.Cathart, Tjoe Min Ja, Fishythefish
whoot1234 (1): ZazieR
ZazieR (2): whoot1234, Datadanne
Not voting (2): Bogre, SpyreX

With
12
players alive, it takes
7
players to lynch.

26 hours and 15 minutes left.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:47 pm
by Fishythefish
SpyreX wrote:Actually, I'll go into more detail later but I think we can nix some serious names from the list for who cult leader cuold be:

BloodCovenent
Bogre
Faraday
Mufasa
Seraphim
Tjoe Min Ja

Now, I don't remember who the cops have claimed innos on (I'm tired and about to go to the dentist) but if they are in the above I'd safely say remove them as well.

I'll explain in detail. That list has the right lynch for the day.
This closely echoes a list I made a while ago. Two differences:
1) I removed Seraphim from that list. I claimed investigative role, and made it clear that I could be a tracker or watcher, and asked him to name his movements on the first two nights. As cult leader, claiming vanilla here as he did would be very brave indeed, so I think he's less likely cult leader.
2) I think Mufasa is unlikely cult, given his claim day one.

Deadline is getting very near. At this stage, I think that everyone should be voting for Faraday or Bogre. Anything else is a waste of a vote.

I can't explain it, but Faraday's recent posts really strike me as scum/cult on a gut level. I'm happy with a Faraday lynch.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:51 pm
by SpyreX
So it was Sera for you fishy, thats right.

BC
Bogre
Faraday
Mufasa
Tjoe

^ HERE BE DRAGONS.

Unvote, Vote: Faraday


The kicker is the push for a lynch on Tjoe under the grounds that he'd be scum when we've damn well went over this.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:13 pm
by Faraday
what fucking push? there is no push. bogre is the best lynch.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:14 pm
by Faraday
Fishythefish wrote: 2) I think Mufasa is unlikely cult, given his claim day one.
I don't see how.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:17 pm
by Faraday
data shoot one of them tonight if you want people to keep thinking you're a vig, lawl.

dayvig one of the others tomorrow and lynch another and you're pretty much guaranteed to hit some cult. if you haven't by then 1) oh fuck and 2) might mean the cult is a red herring.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:18 pm
by Faraday
also note IF mufasa is a cult leader it means he has no cult followings if he's telling the truth about missing night 0.

he tried SpyreX night 1, so he'd have 0 recruits. that's if he is a leader.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:20 pm
by Faraday
also fishy idk how my recent posts strikes you as cult/scum, perhaps i'd have been better lurking 'till deadline.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:24 pm
by SpyreX
Tjoe is probably scum.


Read him in iso. He doesn't vote untill like page 9, fos's X then follows up w/ a vote but gets off onto whoot for putting X @ L-1 (that's not scummy)

X where are you post (iso 32) looks like him trying to prod a scumbuddy to get active to avoid being lynched.
Today he votes whoot who was clearly making sure it was known he was a cop and votes me for no reason despite not really mentioning me before now.

This guys probably scum of some sort, not sure what.
Most likely mafia, mebbe.


Seriously?

Oh whoot is the other person. He's town.
Again:

If you believe SpyreX: this is terrible.
If you think I'm lying: you should be voting for me.

This is NOT looking for cult (which is exactly what I expect cult to be doing).

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:40 pm
by Faraday
That's not a push @ a Tjoe lyncbh /facepalm. That's me saying he's most likely mafia and can wait.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:42 pm
by Faraday
just noting a majority is required to lynch.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:38 am
by ZazieR
BC wrote:Faraday, your posts seem very opportunistic. You seem to be voting based on other players suggestions (SpyreX suggesting that Zaz heavily bussed X_~, and i believe fishythefish suggesting that Bogre was scum). You don't seem to be scum hunting at all, and that may be a scum-tell.
You also suggest to Spyre that the mod is screwing with him, and you question him
. IMO, that's fishing. Several of your posts even feel like IIoA, at least to me they do.
Scummy due to its carefullness.
Also, can you explain why the bolded is fishing? And if it has to do with Faraday questioning SpyreX about what he has stated, then why wasn't I pointed out for fishing?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:44 am
by Tjoe Min Ja
unfortunately, faraday...you are wrong.

pushing me as a scum won't bring you anywhere.

actually I was considering BC as a better lynch. but reading your recent post doesn't made me believe you anymore.

somehow you are diverting attention to scum instead of cult.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:48 am
by ZazieR
BloodCovenent wrote:
Faraday wrote: Clearly if it was as much as anyone in the game I'd roll a die and let randomness decide, now wouldn't I? If you don't believe I have reasons i.e. gut and i'm making it up as I go along then fair enough, but to suggest I'm voting randomly is stupid.
I guess my point is that you are saying you think Bogre has a high chance of being scum, but you have neglected to point out any posts that even "activate" your gut feelings, basically, you have no case against him. It feels like your case is just fluff, or non existant.... well... it is, you haven't given a case.
Agreed that Faraday should have pointed out which posts activate his gut feelings. However, that doesn't mean that he has no case. I do not like this way you're trying to make him look bad at all.
Also, these quotes don't go together:
BC wrote:Why does bogre have such a high chance of being scum, isn't it just as much as anyone else in this game?
BC wrote:I guess my point is that you are saying you think Bogre has a high chance of being scum, but you have neglected to point out any posts that even "activate" your gut feelings, basically, you have no case against him.
The first quote shows as if you don't know what Faraday means. But in the second, you mention 'case' meaning that you do know that Faraday thinks Bogre is more likely to flip scum than anyone else.

Last, which posts have you pointed out from Faraday which activate your gut?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:51 am
by ZazieR
ZazieR wrote:
BloodCovenent wrote:
Faraday wrote: Clearly if it was as much as anyone in the game I'd roll a die and let randomness decide, now wouldn't I? If you don't believe I have reasons i.e. gut and i'm making it up as I go along then fair enough, but to suggest I'm voting randomly is stupid.
I guess my point is that you are saying you think Bogre has a high chance of being scum, but you have neglected to point out any posts that even "activate" your gut feelings, basically, you have no case against him. It feels like your case is just fluff, or non existant.... well... it is, you haven't given a case.
Agreed that Faraday should have pointed out which posts activate his gut feelings. However, that doesn't mean that he has no case. I do not like this way you're trying to make him look bad at all.
Also, these quotes don't go together:
BC wrote:Why does bogre have such a high chance of being scum, isn't it just as much as anyone else in this game?
BC wrote:I guess my point is that you are saying you think Bogre has a high chance of being scum, but you have neglected to point out any posts that even "activate" your gut feelings, basically, you have no case against him.
The first quote shows as if you don't know what Faraday means. But in the second, you mention 'case' meaning that you do know that Faraday thinks Bogre is more likely to flip scum than anyone else.

Last, which posts have you pointed out from Faraday which activate your gut?
EBWOP: 'The first quote shows as if you don't know what Faraday means. But in the second, you mention 'case' meaning that you do know that Faraday thinks Bogre is more likely to flip scum than anyone else
with me being the only possible exception
'
Forgot for a sec that he unvoted me before voting Bogre.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:52 am
by ZazieR
Faraday wrote:
Tjoe Min Ja wrote:
vote faraday



@Faraday : who is a better lynch than you?
Erm, from my point of view pretty much everyone since I know I'm town.

Bogre/BC/Data are all better lynches than me though.
No matter how long I look at the above quote, my name doesn't magically appear.
Faraday
- didn't you want me dead? What happened to that?