Mini 1673 - Greatest Idea Mafia (Game Over!)

[Persivul]

Can you both remind me what your roles are?

[JerryArr]

Mod: is no lynch an acceptable outcome today?

Yes.

[Persivul]

OK, let's see how this could play out.

If it's 2-2-1 town-mafia-SK then I believe town loses in all lynch/no lynch scenarios.

If it's 3-1-1 and we don't lynch:
1. mafia kills town, SK kills town,

town loses

2. mafia kills town, SK kills mafia, tomorrow it's 2-0-1,

town can win by lynching SK

3. mafia and SK target same town, tomorrow it's 2-1-1, successful lynch makes it 2-0-1 or 2-1-0, after NK

town loses

If it's 3-1-1 and we lynch:
4. town,

town loses

5. the SK, tomorrow it's 2-1-0,

town can win by lynching mafia

6. mafia, then tomorrow it's 2-0-1,

town can win by lynching SK

So the only way a no lynch helps is if both farside and bert are town, AND at night SK kills the one mafia out of 4 choices.

Not at all sure this is correct, please point out errors if you see them.

As it is, lynching seems like a better option.

[Persivul]

Player Name	Discard	Alignment Card	Ability Card
BRantz	Mafia Seer	Town card	Doctor card
PeaceBringer	FBI Agent	Vanilla Townie	One-Shot Dayvig
Crowlage	One-Shot Governor	Gravedigger	Werewolf FBI Agent
elusive	Lyncher (Above)	Mason	Mafia Goon
farside22	Vanilla Townie	Mason	Two-Shot Bulletproof Serial Killer
Maruchan	Hirsute Goon	Compulsive Bodyguard Survivor	Mafia Compulsive Hider
Errantparabola	One-Shot Dayvig	Doctor	Mafia-Immune Serial Killer
enomis	Vanilla Townie	Lover	Enabler
Ricastle	Lover	Nymphomaniac	Werewolf Watcher
Ninja Boy Hideo	Mafia One-Shot Governor	Seer
KittyCupCake	Mafia Godfather	Conspiracy Theorist	Bodyguard card
Soren	Roleblocker	Conspiracy Theorist	Town Watcher
Jeanne11	One-Shot Paranoid Gun Owner	Alien card	Cult One-Shot Goomaker

[Persivul]

Bert, your role is missing. Do you care to claim?

[PeaceBringer]

I want to go back and look at who was pushing yesterdays stupidity.

[PeaceBringer]

ah yes, farside... I an absolutely go farside...
I still am SMH over the decision...

[Persivul]

SMH?

[farside22]

I thought Soren was wolf with emonis

[farside22]

Can you both remind me what your roles are?

2 shot BP townie

[farside22]

I'm not sure why people do think sk or why enomis was alone. All I read is scum this or that.
Another alien?
Maybe

Hell pb could be a sk/mafia alignment with a 1 shot vig ability.

[PeaceBringer]

I thought Soren was wolf with emonis

As I said, it was a stupid thought... easy to hide behind if you are scum...
perhaps it is about those that went along with the stupidity quietly though... it is really something that could go either way.

[PeaceBringer]

SMH?

shaking my head

[farside22]

I thought Soren was wolf with emonis

As I said, it was a stupid thought... easy to hide behind if you are scum...
perhaps it is about those that went along with the stupidity quietly though... it is really something that could go either way.

His claim did not mean anything.
Did I believe he watched you?
Yes.
Did I think scum may have had the role?
Yes.

Whenever I asked him a question I never got a response.

[Bert]

Bert, your role is missing. Do you care to claim?

Ability card is Alien Vanillaiser

[Persivul]

Who have you vanillaized so far?

[elusive]

Persivul, numbers are not my strong suit. Did Ninja Boy ever claim? The problem is that if he didn't claim, Bert can claim almost anything right now and there's no way to confirm or deny it?

[elusive]

I'll look into it once on a comp to iso

[elusive]

Soren did play very weirdly to be honest, his play does't make sense and the only thing he said was he wasn't invested which was a bad argument. PB what do you think of the Soren wagon?

[Persivul]

VOTE: farside22

[PeaceBringer]

Soren did play very weirdly to be honest, his play does't make sense and the only thing he said was he wasn't invested which was a bad argument. PB what do you think of the Soren wagon?

I thought it was crap, I expressed thoughts that it was crap. "Not making sense" is not scum behavior. I see such run up around here over and over and over and over with similar results. It is stupid play. There was no reason to go that direction. None. Guess what, town, in general have to make a guess. Town in general are more likely to flip around. Soren was trying to engage the game but just was flopping. His behavior was null to town... but hey, guess what, you can now rule out the fucking scum watcher theory. A complete waste. Now I am trying to sort out who is scum in the foolishness and if there was scum doing something else... (as in Zoro.)
For all the proclamations of reasons and logic, there was nothing reasonable or logical about that...

[PeaceBringer]

Persivul, numbers are not my strong suit. Did Ninja Boy ever claim? The problem is that if he didn't claim, Bert can claim almost anything right now and there's no way to confirm or deny it?

you been here the whole game and you do not know this?

[elusive]

Ninja Boy disappeared a while back and didn't claim I think, I have to ISO when not phone posting to check but I'm not sure and my memory's imperfect.

PB, you were pushing Ricastle too even though he was more obviously town based on his meta. There is a slight difference there.

[elusive]

Yeah in ISO Ninja Boy did not claim but he did make the original list and there was some discussion of whether or not full claiming was a good thing, weird that he made the list but didn't ever full claim other then alignment card.

Persivul why Farside over Bert? He hasn't answered your question. Also in looking at Ninja Boy's ISO he seems annoyed at Jeanne but if he were a Vanillaizer couldn't he cancel out her powers if she wasn't lynched? Weird.

[Bert]

Who have you vanillaized so far?

Predecessor vanillaised Errantparabola N1. I already said that. I also already said that its negative utility so I didn't use it last night.