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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:10 pm
by PeregrineV
Each players suspects:

gandalf5166-Xvart, BBmolla
PeregrineV-dunno yet
xvart- gandalf, gandalf, and more gandalf
zoraster- gandalf
BBMolla-gandalf
Nexus- Xvart, BBmolla
Porochaz- gandalf, xvart

@Xvart- who is gandalf buddy?

@Zoraster- who is gandlaf's buddy?

@BBmolla- who is gandalf's buddy?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:56 pm
by BBmolla
@Peregrine: You.

Especially with you not having any suspects. At all.

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:48 am
by Porochaz
I don't think xvart is gandalfs buddy, I think the bottom half of the player list is town (in regards to the still alive player list) the top 3 I havent looked at.

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:26 am
by Nexus
You think BBM is town?

Could you consider a xvart and BBM scum team?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:16 am
by Porochaz
Possibly if you showed me the connection, however I don't generally put much trust in connections until there is some concrete evidence that one of them is scum.

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:18 am
by zoraster
gandalf: what was your census result?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:16 am
by xvart
gandalf5166 wrote:Just letting everyone know, I have strong townreads on Pere and Nexus, and zoraster is confirmed, so from my PoV lynching xvart, BB, and Poro is guaranteed town win. Poro is last for a reason, I think he's probably town.
Why are PV and Nexus more town than Prozac?

PeregrineV wrote:@Xvart- who is gandalf buddy?
I'm trying to work that out now. I have a hunch of a couple different possiblities but I'm not going to do into more detail until I do a little more research.

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:02 pm
by DarthYoshi
Prodding gandalf5166.

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:13 pm
by Porochaz
I hate to big up my own claim here, but I just want everyone to remember that not only do I have any similar counterclaims and that my role fits almost perfectly with ABR's and whilst for reasons Ive already detailed Im by no way confirmed town, it should go at least some way to ease suspicions on me.

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:51 pm
by gandalf5166
zoraster wrote:gandalf: what was your census result?

7 out of 9 currently alive were town.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:24 am
by zoraster
All right then.
VOTE: xvart

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:30 am
by gandalf5166
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:45 am
by PeregrineV
That's 3 on Xvart.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:49 am
by PeregrineV
xvart (3): gandalf5166, Porochaz, zoraster
gandalf5166 (2): BBMolla, xvart
Not Voting (2): Nexus, PeregrineV

If Xvart is town, then either BBMolla or Nexus will hammer.

If Xvart is scum, is he being bussed.

I tried this with Pine last time, trying to give BBMolla or Nexus a chance to hammer Pine, but unfortunately Mason Zoraster came in and did the job for them. So I guess we'll look back at the Pine wagon.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:51 am
by PeregrineV
Porochaz wrote:I hate to big up my own claim here, but I just want everyone to remember that not only do I have any similar counterclaims and that my role fits almost perfectly with ABR's and whilst for reasons Ive already detailed Im by no way confirmed town, it should go at least some way to ease suspicions on me.


Yes, but the fact that you did bring it up when you were under no formal suspicion seems scummy as hell.

IMO.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:52 am
by PeregrineV
PeregrineV wrote:xvart (3): gandalf5166, Porochaz, zoraster
gandalf5166 (2): BBMolla, xvart
Not Voting (2): Nexus, PeregrineV

If Xvart is town, then either BBMolla or Nexus will hammer
if they are scum.


If Xvart is scum, is he being bussed
?


I tried this with Pine last time, trying to give BBMolla or Nexus a chance to hammer Pine, but unfortunately Mason Zoraster came in and did the job for them. So I guess we'll look back at the Pine wagon.


EBWOP: additions bolded.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:53 am
by BBmolla
I'm not going to hammer. The xvart wagon is absolutely ridiculous.

For christs sake Peregrine, you need to stop observing and DO something. Like half your posts today have been IIoA.

I also don't understand why hammering would make me auto scum. What if I did think he was scum? Would I not be allowed to vote him? That comment you made seemed to be an attempt to get an easy lynch off of anyone who does hammer. I just don't see the logic there.

Along the same lines, I'm confused as to why Nexus isn't stating intent to hammer considering that he thinks xvart is scum. Doesn't make much sense.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:55 am
by BBmolla
Also, considering you're pretty much confirmed town zoraster you should really be taking a more vocal and leading part in the town.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:00 am
by Nexus
vote: BBM
"I'm not scum because Peregrine said I was scum if I hammered so I'm not going to hammer LOOK HOW TOWN I AM." nope.jpg

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:12 am
by BBmolla
...I don't even

Did you even read my post?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:17 am
by gandalf5166
Nexus. BB is scum. That doesn't mean he's the best vote right now. Hammer already.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:19 am
by Nexus
I'm more convinced of BB scum than xvart scum though :(

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:25 am
by gandalf5166
So we lynch him tomorrow. It's not LyLo.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:31 pm
by PeregrineV
BBmolla wrote:I'm not going to hammer. The xvart wagon is absolutely ridiculous.

For christs sake Peregrine, you need to stop observing and DO something. Like half your posts today have been IIoA.

I also don't understand why hammering would make me auto scum. What if I did think he was scum? Would I not be allowed to vote him? That comment you made seemed to be an attempt to get an easy lynch off of anyone who does hammer. I just don't see the logic there.

Along the same lines, I'm confused as to why Nexus isn't stating intent to hammer considering that he thinks xvart is scum. Doesn't make much sense.


So if you think Gandalf, then who is his partner? You've said me, but if I'm town, who else would be Gandalf's partner?

See, it's looking to shape up to be BBMolla & Xvart or Gandalf & some other dude. But i disagree that it has to be those pairings.

And going back again, you seem to "clear" Nexus, yet Gandalf was tied with Nexus on day1 votes when Amrun was lynched. I want to hear why Gandalf isn't cleared, but Nexus is.
What do you think of Poro's handy "claim reminder"?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:42 pm
by BBmolla
PeregrineV wrote:And going back again, you seem to "clear" Nexus, yet Gandalf was tied with Nexus on day1 votes when Amrun was lynched. I want to hear why Gandalf isn't cleared, but Nexus is.

This was Pine not me. Although I do agree with what he was saying for the most part. Also, Gandalf's claim remains terrible and he himself remains scummy. If you were town, which I highly doubt, I'd probably have Nexus as a possible partner for Gandalf, but I'd have to look into it further. That'd be because of more of PoE as opposed to actual connections.

Poro's probably town and I don't see any reason to disbelieve him atm, especially with ABR's flip.