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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:04 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
she's obv talking about herself

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:05 am
by Dwlee99
I'm not even voting her...

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:07 am
by Dwlee99
So out of pocket there tbh

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:08 am
by House
:(

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:10 am
by Dwlee99
I included LLD in that list earlier btw not cause of loftwing but because of her btw. I am not having confidence inspire by this

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:14 am
by House
I feel dirty voting dwlee even as a motivational tool.

UNVOTE: dwlee

Especially when I'm having a similar issue.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:23 am
by Kazyan
The discourse about Gamma was going in circles and I think I like Dwlee stepping onto the podium better.

I did a quick ISO skim. I have roughly 0% confidence in ability to sort Dwlee at this point so you should definitely ignore everything I'm about to say, but I like the sortiness in 577. There's 385 and 388 that make me think that Dwlee is interested in getting clarity, which I guess could be scum but I figure that scum is more interested in riding the waves of chaos than in opening up people's minds like walnuts this early.

The posts between 580 and 1000something make me uneasy

It could be deliberate laziness but I know that Dwlee low-key actually cares a lot when properly challenged and I don't think that they're been properly challenged yet. I don't want to pressure Dwlee now because if we run them up and they're town, scum will just hammer and blame the deadline, when we could do that Day 2 if anyone still cares by that point

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:27 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I have dwlee at townlean if that helps

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:29 am
by Kazyan
It does not help xoxo

Conclusion: Dwlee votes are cringe and I like where my vote is

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:30 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 1232, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I have dwlee at townlean if that helps
Not really as much as I'd like it to, cause I have you at "oh god the pooky alarms are going off"

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:35 am
by Kazyan
Wait, LLD inherited her vote from Loftwing, didn't she

Do I unvote for that? I'm getting confused about how to Bayes here.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:36 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1234, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Not really as much as I'd like it to, cause I have you at "oh god the pooky alarms are going off"
that's ok

I'm a big fan of yours too

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:08 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 1050, Dwlee99 wrote:Murdercat you can't retire cause then we can't make funny mini Kodak moments together anymore then
idk both white flag and this game are making me feel like I just don't have the time anymore. I think most players really underestimate how much activity factors into their reads. I thought if I just played a few games where I was less active people would get used to my new meta but I guess not.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:08 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 1053, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1047, MURDERCAT wrote:What am I supposed to respond to? There's no content in your posts about me
You could try explaining how your questions actually help, if they do
ok

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:21 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
if LLD cant townlock flareon friend no1 can

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:22 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
also i have already changed your meta folder from "tryhard hero solver" to "washed up drunk"

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:22 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 92, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 49, House wrote:
In post 37, unwnd wrote:Takes a minute to fire up the neurons sometimes

I wouldn't vote you regardless of alignment because this is just asking for my attention either way
Oh.

Well, then.

VOTE: unwnd

You have my attention.
I don't understand what this post changed about your read
In House's response he states he misread the post, but this was a very sudden shift compared to his previous posts.
In post 46, House wrote:Unwnd's aggressiveness right out of the gate is giving me townpings.

Pooky is obviously meming, but unwnd doesn't seem concerned about falling under scrutiny for going all serious sauce.

I like.
So it didn't make sense to me, and I wanted to understand what changed to determine if the read on unwnd was real.
In post 487, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 129, House wrote:which multiple people seem to be buying into? Or not? Idk
Where is anyone buying into this?
In post 497, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 490, House wrote:Because if I thought you were actually trying to bring up an old post of mine where I was mostly disengaged in order to angle some sort of shade at me, that would not leave a very good impression.
It's not shade, I want to know if anyone actually thinks that so we can inform them of how dumb they are being
In post 489, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 193, Loftwing wrote:UNVOTE: House

Dunno why I kept my vote on you.
What was your read on Kaz here?
This would have been nice to know because there was an explicit unvote from the biggest wagon at the same time a kaz wagon was increasing
In post 186, Thestatusquo wrote:
The TV screen flickers and changes

VoteCount 1.5

House (he) [ 3 ]
wake88, loftwing, dwlee99
Kazyan (they) [ 3 ]
gorkington, dannflor, house
Dwlee99 (they) [ 2 ]
megazumarill, murdercat
Unwnd (he) [ 1 ]
pookythemagicalbear,
Gorkington (he) [ 1 ]
kazyan


Not Voting [ 3 ]

kidAmn, Navi, Unwnd

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-10-03 20:10:31)
I wondered if it was a subtle was to shift a wagon away from house towards kaz without an explicit vote on kaz.
In post 491, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 224, Kazyan wrote:Based on how quickly the wagon formed on me and the deal with Gork and Dann, there's maybe one scum on my wagon? VOTE: House?
What do you mean re Gork and Dann and why do you conclude House is the scum?
I don't really understand why this wouldn't be a useful question, nothing is explained in Kaz's post. It's effectively a naked vote.
In post 505, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 470, MegAzumarill wrote:Low on time today but dislike the dwlee wagon here.

VOTE: kidann
Say more?
Same here as well. I really dislike these sort of posts where they look like they aren't naked votes because there is content around them, but the content doesn't relate to the vote itself. It's lookbusyish and should be called out.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:23 am
by MURDERCAT
Now I have 3 hours of meetings to go to, be back later

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:26 am
by Kazyan
In post 1237, MURDERCAT wrote:idk both white flag and this game are making me feel like I just don't have the time anymore. I think most players really underestimate how much activity factors into their reads. I thought if I just played a few games where I was less active people would get used to my new meta but I guess not.
I expressed doubt about Mafia games before joining this site when the buddy who recruited me told me that Day phases could last for up to 3 weeks, and he told me that they did that so that you don't have to spend all of your time every day on one game. Turns out, that's not how it works. Every game I'm in consumes my brain for hours a day for months, and when you play to win, you end up having to eliminate lurkers. I may consider the Geriatric Ruleset if I ever decide to mod a game.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:29 am
by Kazyan
In post 1241, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 491, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 224, Kazyan wrote:Based on how quickly the wagon formed on me and the deal with Gork and Dann, there's maybe one scum on my wagon? VOTE: House?
What do you mean re Gork and Dann and why do you conclude House is the scum?
I don't really understand why this wouldn't be a useful question, nothing is explained in Kaz's post. It's effectively a naked vote.
Right, this was before I went public about what I think about Gork and Dann, so I figured the fast wagon had to have at least some scum propulsion. This left House and Meg, both of which I'd previously townread, so I was confused about picking between the two. I picked House.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:30 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1237, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1050, Dwlee99 wrote:Murdercat you can't retire cause then we can't make funny mini Kodak moments together anymore then
idk both white flag and this game are making me feel like I just don't have the time anymore. I think most players really underestimate how much activity factors into their reads. I thought if I just played a few games where I was less active people would get used to my new meta but I guess not.
I think people factor in activity because a lot of people just lack the ability to post as much as they do as town when they're scum. Back in the day it was called thread spewing yourself town, and I don't think that has changed. I think if people know you are always posting about the same then it shouldn't really factor in.
In post 1240, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:also i have already changed your meta folder from "tryhard hero solver" to "washed up drunk"
Rude

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:31 am
by Dwlee99
Also MC I need you to read LLD cause Yggdrasil :)

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:32 am
by Gorkington
feels like navi is trying to lurk out this wagon in hopes that someone finds a new shiny thing.
can we get some more pressure there

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:32 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i want to avoid situations like wf where i misread my homie for not being himself anymore

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:33 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1247, Gorkington wrote:feels like navi is trying to lurk out this wagon in hopes that someone finds a new shiny thing.
can we get some more pressure there
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