Mini 148: Christmas Mafia! Game Over!


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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:17 am

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Thanks Dmi for that extremely helpful post,
I've been changed forever by the inteligence and creativity of your post

not only was it stupid, but it doesn't help us
I may be dead, but that doesn't mean I can't help anymore

oh, and does not starting my sentences with capital letters annoy you? if it does, too bad
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:15 pm

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Crola wrote:why would someone guilty confirm my story if I'm town?
I've already explained this...if I were scum, confessing to being blocked clears me, at the very least, of being the SK and last night's killing mafia member. And
I'm
also the one who brought up the fact that I could have been a non-killing member of the mafia. That you keep repeating it only after I pointed it out makes you look as though it didn't enter your mind until after I said it -- but that now you're seizing on it to make sense of your behavior...though certainly you would have said it yourself before I did if it were indeed your motivation.
Crola wrote:anyway, the reason I want you lynched is because you were absolutely positive I am Scum you bet your life
Check my post. I didn't say I was absolutely positive you are scum -- I said that you're
lying
. True, I believe that makes it an almost sure thing that you're scum because only a stupid, useless townie would lie and expect another player to go along with the lie...but that ain't what I said.
Crola wrote:yet now all of the sudden, you don't want the town to lynch you tomorrow
I am innocent, you told the town to kill me, you said that if I'm innocent the town should kill you
I think you should kepp your promise
It wasn't a promise -- it was an offer, though, as I've already said, I don't think I'll
have
to make good on it since you're so full of crap. But, if you're innocent, I'm still happy to be lynched -- though everyone else will have to decide whether they want to do go that way.
Crola wrote:now, you might say, why would mafia bet their life on someone they know is innocent
simple, you're Meme, people will think you just made a mistake
Um...not to brag...but when people think of MeMe -- "she just made a mistake" is probably not the first thing that leaps to their minds. If you're innocent -- it's FD's mistake, not mine. I'll be quite eager to be out of a game (even through lynching) if the mod has screwed up.
Crola wrote:you called me a liar, that stung considering I told the truth
Why would it sting if you believe me to be mafia, Crola?
Crola wrote:I think the real liar should be killed here, and that would be you Meme
you said I didn't block you, but I did, you LIED about that
Unvote Vote Meme

Incase I am still alive somehow
If FD shows up and doesn't immediately post your death scene, then I'll be pretty irritated.
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  • Convicting will require a simple majority of votes. Once a player has reached the necessary majority, his pleas are useless and any attempts to unvote will be unheeded.
As a matter of fact, I'm pretty irritated at roland for unvoting you in the first place and making things confusing. Roland -- why don't you explain what on earth you were worried about? For crying out loud, by
this
time anyway you should have a clear idea of which one of us you consider the more believable. If Crola's scum, I'm kinda thinking that roland may be as well, considering his quick (resigned?) vote when I said Crola's lying and his quick (ridiculous) unvote when Crola put up his sloppy defense.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:12 am

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you also forget something, there may be no SK, it could have been a bad shot by a Vigilante, just another possibility
Meme, you've more or less admitted to having a role with a choice, because you said you weren't blocked, if you are telling the honest to god truth that you weren't blocked, FD would have
really
screwed up considering I did block you this night
but I'd also like to poin out that I'm capable of killing, and have a better chance of killing then blocking, and since I didn't kill tonight, that makes 3 killers, just something to think about
I'm going to PM FD right now and tell him to kill me

but when I die, and you find out that I'm the wheatherman, and am pro-town, then you know who to lynch (and for those of you who don't know, that means vote Meme)
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:30 pm

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Crola wrote:but I'd also like to poin out that I'm capable of killing, and have a better chance of killing then blocking, and since I didn't kill tonight, that makes 3 killers, just something to think about
*thinks*

OK-there's three killers. So if MeMe's scum and you didn't kill her, but you blocked her instead, that means she couldn't have killed. So you say there are 4 killers? Crap logic. I don't see how you see MeMe as mafia. If what you say is true, it should probably be the other way.

You mentioned a vig earleier. I doubt that there would be 2 vigs in a mini.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:51 pm

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Anyways, can we just shut up and wait? Crola, as soon as FD gets here you can go sign up for another themed mini.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:43 am

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I alerted FD of our situation, so hopefully this day will end soon

and if you guys don't lynch meme and it turns out she's scum, I'll be the one laughing at you guys, just remember that
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:38 pm

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Sorry for the delay, people!

End-of-Day Vote Count (6 to lynch):

Crola: 6
(MeMe, Fuldu, DoomCow, Dmi, Stewie, rolandofthewhite)
DoomCow: 2 (Xanthe, Electra)
Stewie: 1
(HairyMezican)

Not voting: DoomCow


After a fierce discussion the town agreed to lynch Crola. Nothing he could say or do would change that. They find a tree and hang him. And then they search his pockets, finding nothing scummy.....


Crola, Weatherman, lynched day 1.

It is night 2. Choices due in 72 hours!
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:31 am

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*bump*

I'm missing some critical night choices. If I don't receive anything by saturday morning I guarantee you you won't be happy.....
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:55 am

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It was a cold morning again. My Christmas Tree is on the radio, everyone is having breakfast, and everyone rejoices, for no bodies are found this morning.


That is, no-one sees any blood or anything, for in the Christmas Tree two candles aren't burning any more: Rolandofthewhite and Fuldu are both dead! Even though no-one in the house knew it they were magically animated candles and could speak and talk! What a great loss for the town!
Again it's time to start lynching.....


Rolandofthewhite - Candle - Killed night 2
Fuldu - Candle - Killed night 2

It is day 2.
With 8 people left 5 is The Majority we're looking for.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:22 am

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That's interesting.

Oh well,
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:34 am

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FOS: HairyMezican


No reason to be coy. If you want to lynch me based on yesterday's actions, you have plenty to go on and nobody'd look at you funny for just flat-out voting me. That you're hedging with a "minor FOS" is pretty weird...looks like you're worried about seeming eager.

If the consensus is that I should be lynched, there's not much I can do about it. I just hope that those among you who are pro-town will realize that it's
not
a good idea as a wrong lynch today will almost certainly mean a loss tonight, seeing as we've yet to get rid of a single scum.

I've questioned FD about what the deal was yesterday and if there was a mod error -- he has declined to clarify (though he answered my PM). My best guess is that Crola was a weatherman who wasn't very good at his job, though I know that's weak (and I'm not sure I'd buy it myself in anyone else's shoes).
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:25 pm

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Well, I will
vote: MeMe
then. Partially because the last game I finished (last night) was one where the town lost because they didn't lynch a MeMe equivalent and I'm still rather irritated about that. :O Partially because I said she was acting weird earlier, and she's doing it again.

Of course the difference is that MeMe isn't IS and she usually doesn't go heavily after people on Day 1, right?
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:08 pm

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Ouch, we lost 2 candles on one night. Another masonry? Or just basic town folk? I'm not sure. I am suspicious about Meme though, blaming the MOD is always an easy shot... Not voting at the moment...
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:26 pm

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Electra: Wrong. The difference between me and IS is that he generally sticks with someone unreasonably...I had a good reasons for sticking with Crola. And "acting weird"? Please elaborate. Or would you have behaved differently if someone had claimed to have blocked you and you'd not been blocked? Do you not think it at least a possibility that a weatherman role could, conceivably, be not-too-good at his job? And your other reason for voting me is over sour grapes from a different game? Um... yeah.
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And DoomCow - please. "Blaming the mod is always an easy shot"? Since when? Again -- Crola said he blocked me. I wasn't blocked. The two obvious possibilities yesterday were 1) Crola's lying and 2) FD screwed up. We now know that Crola wasn't lying (unless he's a complete moron). I also am now pretty sure that FD didn't screw up as most mods would admit to doing so rather than letting their game be compromised by confusion that they caused.

So I'm left with considering a third possibility: Crola isn't always accurate. Kinda like a weatherman.
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OK - best case scenario is 2 scum & 1 SK, right? So, how about a mass claim right now? Since we have zero scum down yet and are likely in the endgame -- NOTHING should be decided without getting as much information as possible. If after we've talked things out, the majority still wants me lynched, well -- I'll deal with that then. But remember, at least three of the people talking today are not on the side of good.

No use hurrying this day as doing so could be catastrophic. Electra, if you're pro-town, you should get that vote off of me (even if you think I'm scum) because the game could end quickly if votes are thrown. As I pointed out, at least three of the people in the game are non-town. I doubt they'd load on me too quickly as I believe that there will probably be a tomorrow regardless of what happens today if we have 2 scum/1 SK. Our biggest risk is the possibility of a 3-person scum group...in which case we're kinda screwed.

I know I said earlier that no one would have batted an eye if HM had just flat-out voted me...but that was before I really thought through our situation. I now think that
no
votes should be placed before we talk this through. FOS on HM still stands, though, because the "weak" suspicion he pointed at me did smack of faux care to me.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:28 pm

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Electra wrote:Well, I will
vote: MeMe
then. Partially because the last game I finished (last night) was one where the town lost because they didn't lynch a MeMe equivalent and I'm still rather irritated about that.
And which game was this? I'm rather curious as to what you imagine my "equivalent" is.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:40 pm

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I guess I should clarify my FOS. Crola was saying one thing, you were saying another. Crola's story was somewhat confirmed. But the thing is Crola talks in gibberish, and even if the weatherman is accurate, there is no guarantee that Crola understood everything he was told. Nevertheless, it is worth a minor FOS.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:45 pm

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Crola said he blocked me. I wasn't blocked. The two obvious possibilities yesterday were 1) Crola's lying and 2) FD screwed up. We now know that Crola wasn't lying (unless he's a complete moron). I also am now pretty sure that FD didn't screw up as most mods would admit to doing so rather than letting their game be compromised by confusion that they caused.

So I'm left with considering a third possibility: Crola isn't always accurate. Kinda like a weatherman.
Actually, I would be more inclined to go with the "Crola is a complete moron" route.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:38 pm

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Well, mass claim or not, I would at least want a claim from meme.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:43 pm

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Why "or not" on the mass claim? What's a good reason
not
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:04 am

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Ccould the candles have been siblings? Like in MeMe's Siamese Twin, kill one and you get both down? I'm not sure that's it though.

I'll have to reread the thread cause I'm not sure exactly who Crola was and what happened. But whether or not we have a mass claim, I think MeMe should claim. First.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:53 am

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Dmi wrote:But whether or not we have a mass claim, I think MeMe should claim. First.
I agree with this.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:04 pm

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I have no problem with claiming first.

But we now have three people (Stewie, Dmi, Xanthe) making it sound as though they consider not mass claiming a possibility...without giving any reason why.

Do the math: 7 people left. At least 3 of them scum. Not mass claiming at this point would be an
extremely
weird plan for pro-town players.

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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:54 pm

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I didn't say that I wouldn't like a mass claim -- I didn't even imply it -- all I said is that if for some reason we don't do it, I still want you to claim.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:54 pm

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I didn't say that I wouldn't like a mass claim -- I didn't even imply it -- all I said is that if for some reason we don't do it, I still want you to claim.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:59 pm

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Stewie wrote:I didn't say that I wouldn't like a mass claim -- I didn't even imply it -- all I said is that if for some reason we don't do it, I still want you to claim.
Well, saying "whether or not" is, in my opinion, an implication that you might not want to do it, Stewie.

For the record: do you think mass claiming is a good idea?
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