Open 421-Pamplona II: Electric Bullgaloo! Game over

[Bitmap]

So, just did some setup analysis for those of us who aren't entirely sure of what's going on .

These letters definitely were drawn during setup:
I (Inte.)
H (JD.)
R (McStab.)
PPP (Johnny, and two of Near/Gunny/Bit...most likely the first two.)

That leaves one letter which is either another P (if none of our PRs are lying) or a T (if one of the docs are lying.) That leaves us with one of two scum setups:

1 T = Mafia Goon, Mafia 1-Shot Bus Driver, Mafia JOAT, Serial Killer
0 Ts = Mafia Goon, Mafia 1-Shot Bus Driver, Mafia JOAT

The JOAT has a Roleblock, Ninja Kill and a Strongman Kill. Assuming again that Bit's telling the truth and that he protected McStab, the Strongman Kill is probably used up. McStab was most likely scum's #1 priority, and I can't see them using the Roleblock on Bit as it ran the risk of another Doc thwarting the kill. So, they still have Roleblock, Ninja Kill, and the Bus Driver on the table.

tl;dr: If there is an SK, Bitmap is lying and should be lynched. If there is not an SK, Bitmap is probably telling the truth and should be left alone is what Greywing is trying to say. There is still a possibility that both the mafia and theoretical SK targeted McStab causing the Strongman Kill not be used.

[Greywing]

There is still a possibility that both the mafia and theoretical SK targeted McStab causing the Strongman Kill not be used.

You're right. I forgot that Doctors only protect against

one

kill attempt .

[Bitmap]

@Grey: Who should we lynch out of the VT pool in your opinion?

[Greywing]

Rach first. At least one of BK and Uber is scum as well, though I haven't made up my mind completely. I'm leaning slightly more towards BKscum.

[Bitmap]

@Grey: Do you think both RBD and Uber are town or do you believe that 1 of them is scum?

[Greywing]

RBD's Town. I don't know with Uber.

I'm slightly retracting my last comment. I don't think BK and Uber are scum together. The debate between them doesn't feel like bussing to me. If the scum team is you, Rach, and BK/Uber like I suspect, then the other is most likely the SK. If you're telling the truth about your role, then it's still Rach, BK/Uber and then I'm stumped.

[Bitmap]

@Grey: What makes RBD more townish than Uber?

[drmyshotgun]

RBD's Town. I don't know with Uber.

Oh really?

[Greywing]

I don't see scum going for the massclaim. While we've lost PR's, we've also gained a ton of information on the setup. Also, while I personally felt Inte was Town, he was acting oddly enough that I can understand why RBD found him scummy. Her reasoning for leading his lynch (wanting to prevent him leading a mislynch, as she had a scumread on him) was Town motivated.

Oh, and I don't trust Uber at all.

@Gunny: Really.

[Bitmap]

If we did hypothetically lynch Uber and he turned up town, would your scum read change?

[Greywing]

It would make it really easy: You, Rach, BK would be scum.

[Bitmap]

It would make it really easy: You, Rach, BK would be scum.

Even with no SK? Hmmm....

[drmyshotgun]

VOTE: GreyWing

[Bitmap]

If there is no SK, why would I be in that list?

VOTE: Greywing

[Near]

tl;dr: If there is an SK, Bitmap is lying and should be lynched. If there is not an SK, Bitmap is probably telling the truth and should be left alone is what Greywing is trying to say. There is still a possibility that both the mafia and theoretical SK targeted McStab causing the Strongman Kill not be used.

Do you think this is likely? I think I mentioned this before, but the likelihood of this happening is so theoretical that we can ignore this. I mean, do you assume scums to almost waste their kill by targeting the person who is most likely to be protected by claimed 3 doctors? Are you like scum who knows that one or more doctors are scums??

[JohnnyFarrar]

Slow the hell down guys. Let others talk before just up and lynching him.

[Near]

If there is no SK, why would I be in that list?

VOTE: Greywing

Because Greywing doens't get this.

Neither does Uber.

[Bitmap]

tl;dr: If there is an SK, Bitmap is lying and should be lynched. If there is not an SK, Bitmap is probably telling the truth and should be left alone is what Greywing is trying to say. There is still a possibility that both the mafia and theoretical SK targeted McStab causing the Strongman Kill not be used.

Do you think this is likely? I think I mentioned this before, but the likelihood of this happening is so theoretical that we can ignore this. I mean, do you assume scums to almost waste their kill by targeting the person who is most likely to be protected by claimed 3 doctors? Are you like scum who knows that one or more doctors are scums??

Consider it this way, Near. I'm a null read at this point to town but scum knows I am town. Why would they need to kill me? All they need to do is frame me and I would just get lynched and they would get an extra day to kill.

[Greywing]

If there is no SK, why would I be in that list?

VOTE: Greywing

Yeah, you're right. So regardless, one of my Town reads is wrong.

[Near]

I am not proposing to lynch you today. I just find it amusing that you think scum targeted MS without using their stronghold kill or busdrive.

I still need someone to answer my bus-drive question. Anyone? Mod?

[Near]

I express my support for Rach lynch. Thanks

[Bitmap]

I am not proposing to lynch you today. I just find it amusing that you think scum targeted MS without using their stronghold kill or busdrive.

I think it was RBD who mentioned it but she said how there was a possibility that both SK and mafia could of targeted MS.

[Near]

I am not proposing to lynch you today. I just find it amusing that you think scum targeted MS without using their stronghold kill or busdrive.

I think it was RBD who mentioned it but she said how there was a possibility that both SK and mafia could of targeted MS.

I am not saying there is 0 probability. I also mentioned the possibility of it, way earlier but it's just not probable unless you think scums are retarded. Do you agree this can be effectively ignored?

You also know that it's possible that you are SK or scum, thus no one actually protected MS.

[Greywing]

I express my support for Rach lynch. Thanks

Then let's do it.

VOTE: RachMarie

[Bitmap]

I am not proposing to lynch you today. I just find it amusing that you think scum targeted MS without using their stronghold kill or busdrive.

I think it was RBD who mentioned it but she said how there was a possibility that both SK and mafia could of targeted MS.

I am not saying there is 0 probability. I also mentioned the possibility of it, way earlier but it's just not probable unless you think scums are retarded. Do you agree this can be effectively ignored?

You also know that it's possible that you are SK or scum, thus no one actually protected MS.

Alright, but I'm town.