Newbie 1351: Hyrule's Under Attack.. Interesting..-GAME OVER

[VisceraEyes]

Feel free to comment on my commentary of ATay's posting - they're the comparatively longer posts recently in my ISO

[GuyInFreezer]

If it was other person acting like it, I wouldn't even hesitate voting. But it's AA9 we're dealing with, and she does that pretty much every game she plays.

@VE: ok.

[fferyllt]

Is there a specific case against AA9 except for overreaction?

We've been dissecting the previous occupier of that slot over the last 12 hours or so. AlexisTay. AA9 inherited a spot that I was suspicious of. VE has found stuff that I missed when I was evaluating AlexisTay's posts.

Catch up and see what you think.

Who do you want to lynch?

[fferyllt]

The AlexisTay discussion starts here: 1246

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh. AT is AA9. Ok. I was like "what's that person gotta do with AA9"

@ffer: since I focused on townhunting as I said I would, I can say who I do not want to lynch: ff,VE,Z.

I'll read on (8 pages left) and tell you guys what I think of VE's case on AT.

[VisceraEyes]

I'm not fond of the word "case". It's just my observations of his posting. I find them to be more likely to come from scum.

[fferyllt]

Yeah, "case" is a strong word. More in the nature of comparing notes and pointing up oddities.

[GuyInFreezer]

I never considered it as a strong word. :/

So I read his notes. I don't get the last part though. He said something about getting 2 scumreads in "townfeel list" and it suddenly moves to "trying to fit in." VE, can you explain more on that part?

[fferyllt]

Also could you elaborate on the "not particularly connected to the game" part? Do you mean he's just trying to appear active, but not actively contributing?

GM, did you answer this?

[fferyllt]

Stream-of-consciousness is a very good way to try and get a read on people. That's not what I see from him.

@Deras: I'll try and answer tomorrow, just looking at your post is giving me a bit of a headache.

Is this the answer?

Because it's a lousy answer.

[fferyllt]

gah this game. we've got a little over a day now.

[fferyllt]

VOTE: ArcAngel9

[goodmorning]

Are you trying to figure out the motivation behind the behavior?

If you want an answer to that: this is a game, and if being 100% perfect at it is going to make it un-fun for me (it would), then I'm not going to try to be 100% perfect.

He's said it throughout the game

, whereas I confined it to early on.

Did you ever post some "throughout the game" examples of what you are talking about here?

Not that I recall. I don't really want to either.

I'll go back after posting this and look though.

So the question becomes: do we stay the course with an Eye lynch or do we switch gears into an Angel lynch? Obviously Angel will want to weigh in, but I suspect she'll just fly off the handle and complain about circle-jerking some more, so I doubt that will be much help. What do you think?

Frankly I could go either way, but there's a preexisting wagon on Eye. :/ What do you think?

I know this question was probably mostly directed at ff, but I obviously mostly prefer Fe.

I'm tired of finding myself on wagons with my null and scum reads.

Why? Why would it matter who else is on the wagon?

Is there a specific case against AA9 except for overreaction?

My issue with that slot was mostly with AT3.

Also could you elaborate on the "not particularly connected to the game" part? Do you mean he's just trying to appear active, but not actively contributing?

GM, did you answer this?

I thought I had but apparently not.
I mean that his posts tend to be less focused on the game as it is? It's another one of those gut-type things, but there are some symptoms like finding external reasons to vote/unvote (like 814 for example) and lack of real scumhunting or pushing (though YMMV). THE LACK OF PUSHING IS A BIG ONE. In fact, the only wagon he really started was the AA9 one, and that was for this reason: "I'm very suspicious of how ArcAngel has disappeared from this game (but not from the site) after making a bunch of nonsense arguments that disregarded basic probability. That slot has said some very enigmatic things, but

I'd put them all to being differences of playstyle

so far. After some consideration,

I think it's more than just her being terrible town.

"

SO YEAH. THERE YOU GO DERAS, I FINALLY ANSWERED IT.

VOTE: FE

[goodmorning]

I really don't want to go through all 111 posts of his right now actually, but whatever.

Side note: not exactly buddying, but the whole mediating the disagreement between you and I whilst being on my side was weirdddd

[goodmorning]

Also his copying of a lot of my reads/points early on, like the easy target classification and my read on you

[goodmorning]

Then in 517 takes a "my bad" easy way out of all that

[goodmorning]

693 has a little bit of something that could be buddying depending on what you had for lunch

[goodmorning]

Yeah, 693 is the big one. Hmmm.

[fferyllt]

^^ I like this stuff. Putting some detail and data behind your reads makes a huge difference. Occasionally winding up on the same bandwagon with a lot of gut-read handwaving has been kind of unsettling.

[fferyllt]

Greetings fellow Hylians!

I've played a few games on other sites years ago (and a lot of live games at Origins one particular year)

and perhaps the theory has evolved a bit since then, but it seems games on this site run at a much higher level. Having determined this after a read through a few other games, I feel a very workable strategy for scum in newbie games is to just not post very often, even claiming (maybe it's the truth, who knows) to have somewhat limited time to devote to the game. Dropping in once a week to provide a slim set of reads and not getting involved in townies arguing with each other is a great way for scum to look like they're trying to play but mostly have people forget about them. I sincerely hope that everyone in this game is dedicated to providing useful dialog, and won't just prod-dodge. Not contributing to active discussion is anti-town. That doesn't mean posting and saying hi every day, it means at very least making commentary about what's going on even if you're not sure where they participants stand.

I was going to have a paragraph here ranting about the random voting stage, but in the process I came to the conclusion that it does serve one useful purpose: to get people that have some votes thrown their way talking about something substantial, even if it is to say that all the votes on them are random. Just the process of coming out of one's shell and showing how one responds to pressure, even baseless pressure, is information the town can potentially use to its advantage. That's not to say that I love the random voting stage, and think there are some other very good ways to break the ice - starting off with introductions is quite useful in games like this one where people for the most part don't know a damn thing about each other - but RVS seems to be firmly entrenched on this site and I have to play the same game as everyone else. So here goes my vote for the person whose name I hate the most.

VOTE: goodmorning

I don't like mornings and I really don't like being bombarded with pleasantries first thing in the morning every day at work, so your name is a major turn-off for me. Sorry.

(Not implying I am, this is my 3rd game of Forum Mafia ever. I found the previous 2 still on the internet if people want to see them.)

I had forgotten Eye's intro post where he said he had a fair bit of mafia experience, though most of it is not forum mafia. Need to think about this.

[GuyInFreezer]

We have less than a day left. Correct? Ugh hate being short on time.
VOTE: AA9
L-1.
Normally, I won't ask for claim till someone intent to hammer, but we're running out of time.
So claim. If you're a power role, be quick about it. What we don't want is you claiming power role 30 minutes before the deadline.

[ArcAngel9]

I think you had a look at AA9's posts/slot. If not, she'd be good. I was cautious about her initially because I had some concerns about AlexisTay3. Goodmorning and Revenus. Revenus put very little down in the thread, so GiF's gotten an almost spotless slot. Goodmorning has such a different play style that I have trouble reading her, and I worry that I've underestimated her.

this post is joke of the year, you think you really know how to read people?? Let me tell you the truth lady..
you suck at reading people...I can bet on that.... once this game is over, i am going to laugh at your scum hunting.

So far, I have fferyllt and VE as strong town.
EU looked ok at first, but later posts quickly devolves.
AA9 is playing like textbook scum. The only thing that bothers me is that she did that on every games that I played with her.
Z7 is leaning town. I don't know how ppl scumread him.
Deras/Mac/GM is null (or rather, didn't focus on them quite yet. I like focusing one person at a time, but time doesn't let me do so.)

If i am the text book scum, why aren't you voting me GIF???
And explain what is that you find town about Z7

So the question becomes: do we stay the course with an Eye lynch or do we switch gears into an Angel lynch? Obviously Angel will want to weigh in, but I suspect she'll just fly off the handle and complain about circle-jerking some more, so I doubt that will be much help. What do you think?

Frankly I could go either way, but there's a preexisting wagon on Eye. :/ What do you think?

i think i am not going to spend anymore talking about this day, i don't care if i am getting lynched
its a most fucked town game ever!!!

[GuyInFreezer]

But I am!!!

[ArcAngel9]

Lynch Z7 and Eye tomorrow please
and Ffery is anti town as fuck
GIF is obvious VI.

GM, you should vote me now, i want you to vote me and prove these idiots how pathetic they are with their game play.

[ArcAngel9]

But I am!!!

yes derp.. you did, i can see that now!!!