Mini Normal 2125: Chiptune Mafia [The End]

[popsofctown]

When I die, a strange man with a conical hat and an inexplicably darkened face in spite of no mask is going to be standing in front of a gate. He's going to tell me I guess the true religion incorrectly, and that I was supposed to be listening to prophecies in the form of erratic play and unexplained reads from a forum account entitled Y'shtola Rhul, but without the apostropher because the Earthly domain didn't allow it. And somehow I was supposed to help her cleanse Sin Eaters and only Warriors of light are ok. The figure will cast gravigagagagagagag and plummet me into hell for playing this game by trying to solve the game and ending up with a townbloc that excluded her. When I land I will discover that hell is my participation in a beserked infinite attacking loop akin to the FFVI Cyan glitch, except against an impervious bust of a dancing cartoon tiger. I will scream for mercy and understanding. No one will listen. There will be a report button, but it only chants "On standby" everytime I hit it

[Yshtola Rhul]

When I die, a strange man with a conical hat and an inexplicably darkened face in spite of no mask is going to be standing in front of a gate. He's going to tell me I guess the true religion incorrectly, and that I was supposed to be listening to prophecies in the form of erratic play and unexplained reads from a forum account entitled Y'shtola Rhul, but without the apostropher because the Earthly domain didn't allow it. And somehow I was supposed to help her cleanse Sin Eaters and only Warriors of light are ok. The figure will cast gravigagagagagagag and plummet me into hell for playing this game by trying to solve the game and ending up with a townbloc that excluded her. When I land I will discover that hell is my participation in a beserked infinite attacking loop akin to the FFVI Cyan glitch, except against an impervious bust of a dancing cartoon tiger. I will scream for mercy and understanding. No one will listen. There will be a report button, but it only chants "On standby" everytime I hit it

Sin Eaters will destroy this world. You have the opportunity to stop them.

[popsofctown]

How do you know I'm not a Sin Eater, Y'shtola?

[Yshtola Rhul]

How do you know I'm not a Sin Eater, Y'shtola?

I must place my belief in somebody, for this is not a fight I can undertake alone.

[popsofctown]

Why doesn't 1325 make you think I'm a Sin Eater?

[Yshtola Rhul]

Why doesn't 1325 make you think I'm a Sin Eater?

Are you looking to break my trust?

[popsofctown]

I'm looking to understand you you don't make sense as any alignment

[Yshtola Rhul]

I'm looking to understand you you don't make sense as any alignment

How can I assist you?

[Ame]

@Ysha

@Ysha why didn't you vote Luca in 666/667?

The duty of a scholar is to be certain of their findings before releasing them to the public. If I cannot be certain of them myself, how can I expect those who would listen to also be certain of them?

What was the purpose of 666 then? You made a call to action but did not follow up on it yourself.

[Yshtola Rhul]

@Ysha

@Ysha why didn't you vote Luca in 666/667?

The duty of a scholar is to be certain of their findings before releasing them to the public. If I cannot be certain of them myself, how can I expect those who would listen to also be certain of them?

What was the purpose of 666 then? You made a call to action but did not follow up on it yourself.

I am a scholar, not a general. I do not lead the forces, only support them. I wish to find those I would follow, for only a Warrior of Light may banish the Sin Eaters.

[popsofctown]

Explain how you pick who to follow, Miss Y'shtola. You're implying you've picked me. Why?

The town disagrees on things, you cannot follow everyone.

[Yshtola Rhul]

Explain how you pick who to follow, Miss Y'shtola. You're implying you've picked me. Why?

The town disagrees on things, you cannot follow everyone.

While Warriors of Light continue to bicker and quarrel, I will not follow them. It falls to those who see beyond the mundane that are truly fit to lead in these times. The power of the Echo is what decides this, for the truth is known through it.

[Ame]

UNVOTE:

[Ame]

mafia is hard I don't like it anymore

[Yshtola Rhul]

mafia is hard I don't like it anymore

What have you learned, little one?

[Ame]

pops if you were going on a week long vacation would you prefer for all the activities to be planned out where you follow them to a schedule or would you prefer to leave the schedule free and do as you feel in the moment each day?

[Ame]

mafia is hard I don't like it anymore

What have you learned, little one?

That I must see beyond the mundane through the power of the Echo.

[Yshtola Rhul]

mafia is hard I don't like it anymore

What have you learned, little one?

That I must see beyond the mundane through the power of the Echo.

Indeed, this is the path of truth and wisdom. If you see that which has already come to pass, you know you have reached the Echo.

[popsofctown]

pops if you were going on a week long vacation would you prefer for all the activities to be planned out where you follow them to a schedule or would you prefer to leave the schedule free and do as you feel in the moment each day?

It's definitely the second one. When I visited my cousin in New York for a week last year, I wandered around the city while she was in class, just trying to stumble upon cool shops and restaurants. I let last minute social engagements with her friends come up that she allowed me to tag along to, and I liked it better than if I had known in advance. I try to keep minimal itinerary on all of my vacations.

Did you have a guess how I'd respond?

[popsofctown]

"What about you" is implicit btw

[Paragon]

So, I think I might have the virus so gonna have to low-effort while I recover. I'll still be reading, just not very deeply. Sorry!

[Paragon]

1299:
popsofctown, I meant no shade by it, I actually find them very interesting! A more fitting word would've been "complex". Some of your reads are things I just never would've thought of no matter how many times I read the post in question.

5 hours is plenty of time to clear my mind! https://youtu.be/3ts8ZU9F1Q0?t=5. Okay, I might have a problem.

Have you tried playing Hearthstone in German? It makes the game very entertaining.

[Taly]

Time to start with the person I'm voting.

Spoiler: Y'shtola ISO

Link/Early Section

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Tbh, the only thing that pings me about

Y'shtola's

opening post/engagement with me: 5 and 7, 47, 54 and 57, 63 and 97 is that she doesn't take accountability for her vote, nor does she use it as a basis to solve anyone or assert a read. I do like her openness to engage, yet there's no initiation. This could be playstyle, though.

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124 is again, me thinking that her approach is likelier newer town. Her posts aren't deceptive, they're just not quite critical. 220 to 224 are all straight forward interactions, which bare little substance, though

220

doesn't feel like it'd come from S/S with

Alo

since there's no assumptions about each other's feel of the slot.

221

outlines her motivation for wanting to help a player (me wagon

Fuzzy

), but my exercise for asking her vote was more to help see her approach and POV of the game - this could come from either alignment, I feel.

222

is bothersome since it has no conclusion on

Alo's

alignment despite posting about him, but I think it's likelier town-indicative of at least one of them, I'd think scum's wishy-washy stance on a partner would've been harsher and more difficult to follow.

223 and 224

aren't much beyond

Y'shtola

asking and clarifying, which is alright.

257 shows a depth of thought in her reads;

Paragon

listed that I'm solving in good faith,

Ame

is town via meta, and that

Wiisp

is playing unwise for scum based on his thinking -

Y'shtola

doesn't find these as reasons to think someone is town and even refrains from judging

Pops' 1v1 with me

as specifically towny or scummy. Now, if she was saying

"these 3 or 4 cannot be towny or scummy based on

Paragon's

reasoning"

, I'd feel like

Y'shtola's

passivity is agenda-based, but she's making observations here and not discrediting townreads that she doesn't quite feel herself.

257

illustrates a town-minded behavior.

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392 I had to quote this post so people can explicitly see this:

I don't believe that testing something that is proven to be impossible will be a worthwhile contribution to the game. I will vote popsofctown only if I feel I need to in order to advance the game or because I am entirely convinced that she is a Sin Eater.

In a world regardless of

Pop's/Paragon's

alignment - especially in relation to each other - the fact that

Y'shtola

just disregards any reason to vote someone outside of what she deems as appropriate is actually quite towny. I feel like during the

Pops/Paragon

wagon/scumread conflict with

Rabid/Robb

,

Y'shtola

-scum would capitalize on this with a push - but doesn't. 414 and 416 solidifies her stance here.

Am I going crazy? How on earth is it that TWO SEPARATE PEOPLE are claiming posting restrictions in a normal game?
It can’t be a coincidence can it?


Pedit: I give up. VOTE: Popsofctown
Will remove my vote once Yshtola votes Beyoncé here

Pops is joking.
Paragon is pretending that his self-imposed restriction is official.

It is as simple as that.

Another quote that had to be seen.

Y'shtola

cool-headedly assessing the claims like this while 4+ players arguing is either very perceptive town or really good scum - and I'm leaning on town from her ISO so far.

543 is a bit odd from

Y'shtola

because she pretty much just voted

Pops

because

Ame

said she was scum and

Y'shtola

hadn't voiced a townread on

Ame

or spoke to her much until this point... and

Y'shtola

gave me the impression from her early posts that

pops

could be towny.. This was AFTER my

Taly V Paragon

posting spree where I scumread

{Fuzzy/Pops/Paragon}

collectively, so I want to know if that prompted her

Pops

vote and/or if her read of

Ame

was the tipping point. This doesn't ping me enough to push on her, though.

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666 and 667 but I guess

Pops

isn't scum? Was the vote to advance the game? This is where

Y'shtola's

posting can become unclear. 674 gets a +1 from me because I didn't like that

Luca

entered the thread focusing on why he shouldn't be suspected because of

Rabid's

replace-out which is always policy NAI to me. I think

Luca's

AtE here was justifiably rebuked. But I do agree with

Y'shtola's

approach change in 686 because

Luca

gave valid reasons between the difference of

Rabid

-scum and

Rabid

-town frustration.

I don't dislike parts of

Luca's

entrance because of his reasoning, but why he felt the need to defend himself. This might change when I ISO him.

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892 to 895;

892

is where I think she speaks about

Luca

which makes sense given her previous posting.

893

is where I think she is trying to figure out where my feelings are coming from, so that's alright.

894

is meh so I wish she at least said why she didn't feel the need to comment, could be considered dismissive of her.

895

is a vote on a player that I had little doubt who would flake out at that point in the game, but I see no issue with it. 907 is vague but whatever, nothing unusual.
You know, in a gamestate where only 4-6 people have consistently posted and bit at each other for 20+ pages, 1007 where

Y'shtola

says scum wouldn't be so vocal is a valid gamestate read.

Major Insight

Tbh at this moment,

Y'shtola

only makes sense as scum if she has

AT LEAST ONE PARTNER

in

{Luca/Ame/Pops/Paragon}

by

1007's

post and the consistent suspicion on her from the more active players to be bus-minded. But then again, I think

Y'shtola

is town based off what I'm seeing, so this is just a boundary on the realities I can see her as scum.

I don't know,

Y'shtola

being scum in a reality that's not like the above... like bravo, how the fuck can this be faked? I want to be challenged on this.

1014, 1019, and 1021 is probably the chillest manner someone's responded to my pushes this game, much calmer than

Pops/Paragon/Fuzzy

so I'm not bothered by this, tbh.

Quote/Recent Section

LOL

eyestott

that sounds fun.

I'm busy studying atm but I'm glad you are doing well.

Y'shtola

, I want a readslist

The Warriors of Light within this game are in a state of confusion. Our focus should be on our future, towards the world that will soon cease to be if we are not able to rid of it the Sin Eaters housed within. However, they are instead focused on our petty quarrels, those which will cease to matter in our hour of reckoning. Do those who live only for paradise have immunity to the world collapsing under the weight of the excess light? Indeed not! However, there are those who would still cling to these pleasures in their final hours to deny their fate. As such, there are those here who would deny their fate in turn, bickering amongst themselves while the Sin Eaters reach their blighted touch across our land, corrupting those within their path unfortunate enough to be in their way.

These aethers shine brightly, those who would fight for their own world. True Warriors of Light are these, as the Sin Eaters flinch away and other Warriors of Light stand tall, trusting in their own virtue to shield them from the inner strength radiating from the blessing within their foes. Sin Eaters cannot hold long against such might, at least, unless they are in the presence of a Lightwarden. However, I will dispense of such possibilities for the moment. The truth of the matter is that your focus is splintered across too many places at once. If you wish to see the world for how it is, rather than from your own simplified view, then cast aside your doubts and your squabbles and join me in the fight. I wish only to save our world, and I need Warriors of Light to lead the charge.

As evidence, you know within your heart that those who fight you directly are Warriors of Light. Who flinches at your gaze? Who wishes to remain unseen through and through, seeking to corrupt us while we sleep as we forget their presence within the daylight? Seek your prey there, for you will find it. Do not search for a Lightwarden. Such a search is a fruitless endeavor while there are Sin Eaters afoot in any case.

Do I have your pledge of assistance, Warrior of Light? If you wish to banish the light threatening to destroy our world, I ask only for your hand in friendship. Only together may we triumph.

These last two pages are saddening. Why must Warriors of Light quarrel so?

So the gist of what I get from her is that all the people directly bickering or engaging in arguments with each other trying to sort the game out are most probably town.

This reinforces the insight I garnered in

1007

about her, but still makes me think she's town for this. If you replace

Warriors of Light

with

Town

and

Sin Eaters

with

Scum

and reread her largest posts, her thought process and reads are pretty straight forward.

also

yshtola

do me a favor and actually provide reads, it can't be that much of a stretch, if you somehow need help forming them after 45 pages then you have to hold my hand and point out how to help you. I can't rationalize how you can be town until you do.

I have made my strides towards defeating the Sin Eaters, and my work has been shown when asked for. If you would ignore my warnings and give no passing thought to my further posting, then there is little more we can discuss. I will find others to aid in the quest. If you wish to avoid this, listen as well as read. The answers you seek have already been revealed to you.

"yo, townread, I'm not going to waste time explaining myself when you aren't critically reading me so let me do me, and you get to work"

which I seriously spiritually connect to this response.

My energy for mafia is too low this night already, I'll come back later.

By the way Yshtar I know you love wagons and seems to think math is towny for some reason so...

wink wink

killing woopers is a fun sport

You do a poor job of hiding yourself.

Is there justice within this world? My heart says yes, the time of redemption for our world is at hand, and our actions today will create that world we seek. We needs only grasp it.

UNVOTE: Churros
VOTE: TheFuzzylogic99

I'm really wondering what she's thinking of

Churros

, because I see the implication of a scumread that dissipated slightly, but I WANT to read more into this?

But I want to see how the interaction between

Y'shtola-Churros

evolve.

Explain how you pick who to follow, Miss Y'shtola. You're implying you've picked me. Why?

The town disagrees on things, you cannot follow everyone.

While Warriors of Light continue to bicker and quarrel, I will not follow them. It falls to those who see beyond the mundane that are truly fit to lead in these times. The power of the Echo is what decides this, for the truth is known through it.

This post makes everything about

Y'shtola's

ISO and approach have more sense to it.

She's not gamesolving by aligning cases because she's oriented to working with the game thread and seeing the nuances between people, and push when nobody else voices a thought, or if her townread is giving an assessment. Her passivity isn't scum-indicative since she actually provides depth to her thinking.

I actually think her vagueness with terminology and flavor serves as a barrier for scum. I think scum-aligned players are more inclined to ignore or paint her posts as too "out there" and push it as a narrative on why she's scum.

For the things that DO seem ambiguous or potentially scum-indicative, they aren't in high enough mass or volume for me to want a lynch here. I think it's better to just read

Y'shtola

more critically without blankly saying she's ineffective because she isn't as brash as most players here. The lack of voice behind this train of thought on her make me feel she's likelier town.

I don't want

Y'shtola's

lynch.

UNVOTE:

Y'shtola,

hear me out, as the Tiger Clan Ambassador:



Do you wish to join me in restoring the good faith of our gracious Warriors of Light, and band together through these grim times to incapacitate those who work to defile our alliances? Are you prepared to aid me as my equal to discover the Sin Eaters?

non-game side note

So, I think I might have the virus so gonna have to low-effort while I recover. I'll still be reading, just not very deeply. Sorry!

omg, please take care of yourself

paragon <3

:/ be aware of your body and don't take unnecessary risks.

[Taly]

Conclusion Summary of Y'shtola:

Above everything, unless I'm horribly, horribly misled and that her playstyle actually births from a malicious perspective - which is really hard to identify since she has maybe 1-2 games max - she feels very confidently town to me and I'd defend her lynch, tbh.

Next Up On Taly's ISO Journey That He Scrambles to Finish!

Fuzzy

is probably next just out of ease in reading his ISO due to low post count,

NDMath

too but I want to hold off until I sort others,

Churros

in same boat.

I have a soul townread on

Wiisp

and I'm afraid so I need to get that shit checked.

Pops/Paragon

have the largest ISOs and people I'm most biased with based off 1v1s preflip so I'll get to them but fuck, not sure if I'm looking forward to that lol

I need a MUCH better hold on

Ame/Luca

than I do now.

I literally forgot

Alo

was in this game so I'm worried, tbh.

Stay tuned for a critical reading of

eyestott

!

[nomnomnom]

Stop, pagetop time