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[VP Baltar]

give me someone to interact with plsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss drunk!koba can sort slots easy

Hi, whatcha drinking? I've had three beers and waiting for dinner to finish baking.

cider but also i wanna note taht sober me thinks that u are p blatant scum too lol

C'est la vie

[VP Baltar]

Dinner is ready. Was hoping for better.

Minus points for drunk Koba

[DkKoba]

Dinner is ready. Was hoping for better.

Minus points for drunk Koba

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[VP Baltar]

Is that what Dk stands for though?

Don't mind me, just solving mysteries and catching scum over here.

[jankofan]

bob pushing me if scum is an attempt to pocket datisi. thinks my townread on snow was a white knight attempt which only works if you're scum reading me independently since its ascribing scum motivation to otherwise normal actions.

snow's exit/Bob's entrance were also scummy

this is E-1 (deja vu)

VOTE: bob

[Iconeum]

rawr!

catching up

[jankofan]

also ignores that I had snow town before the wagon started anyway and tries to paint it as if I came up with it to white knight.

[Iconeum]

who tf is bob?

[Iconeum]

oh snow rep?

[Iconeum]

UNVOTE:

at least until i'm all caught up

[Iconeum]

Snowblaze has requested replacement. Currently searching.

Failing scum runs away because she's failing her team. Let's just yeet this and end the day.

Really? Is that how you interpret that?

[Iconeum]

snow's exit/Bob's entrance were also scummy

can you explain what exactly you considered scummy about both of this?

[Iconeum]

I agree that the snow wagon built up really fast and with poor logic.

If we do flip Snow, NPOW is close to copclear town btw. Not just this post, but his general posts on Snow tell me that.

[Iconeum]

I agree that the snow wagon built up really fast and with poor logic.

If we do flip Snow, NPOW is close to copclear town btw. Not just this post, but his general posts on Snow tell me that.

[Iconeum]

emotional hang machine go brrr

i'm liking you more and more this game :p

[Iconeum]

And what was test wagon

DkKoba, Alduskkel, Andresvmb, NoPowerOverMe, jankofan

atleast 2 in there

why tf do you see at least 2 scum in these names? because they were on testa wagon?

[Iconeum]

@datisi Ok I guess? still feels like a reach but w/e i cant really say im familiar enough with the game that i know whos sring npom, but its moot anyway because the read isn't faked at all. npom dedicates three posts to talking about how he missed the claim asking snow what it was. my intuitions about time management say that a cursory look at the last page would've been a lot quicker than writing three posts but i could see scum trying to emulate that sense of being idle and casual about the situation.

I'm townreading you because i feel like you're pushing me and it feels like you really want to be right about your take on me and that motivation and the tone that comes with it are obviously town

im pretty sure im still tring snow. of the ppl on snows wagon ico feels a lot like scum and im not sure who else was even on it

see this what scum do.

They town read the original wagon and push the second. All the while scum on the first guy stays put. And you get tvt situation that guarantees a town miskill

i'm not opposed to this assessment. It also reads like a pocket attempt towards datisi, while in the same breath also dismissing one of datisi's stronger reads (me)

[Iconeum]

For now I am cool with this:

VOTE: jankofan


Also @Billy:
Why is bob town?

hmm

if we flip janko and that hits scum, we will have a bunch of cleared town to work with tomorrow (and of which is at least testa, which is worth a lot)

[Iconeum]

god who isnt voting bob rn let me get someone to hammer

you certainly seem eager to get *any* lynch happening

[Iconeum]

snow's exit/Bob's entrance were also scummy

can you explain what exactly you considered scummy about both of this?

yeah i really have a hard time with this

@janko

[Iconeum]

hey there! sorry I had issues with my account and couldn't physically post on this thread, but now I'm good. Having just read through the last 6 pages of the game,

I'm currently at
closer to town: koba, snow, vp, gb
closer to scum: testarossa, iconeum, billy
idk about: everyone else.
VOTE: iconeum

yo janko, i'd like to go over your opening post

what exactly made you scumread me again?

[Iconeum]

I've read the whole game. Do you mean what gb was saying re your push on npom? If so, yeah kinda. It feels like you might've sensed an opportunity to attract some attention in your push on npom. starting a fight there doesn't jive with someone who has no agenda in this game other than solving. contrast that to snow who's sort of feeling her way through, it feels like she's legit trying to make sense of whats happening. And then how you've progressed in the game, my impression is that you're sort of annoyed at being called out, are doubling down on tone/aggression and force yourself into a townread position.

i already asked that at the time, and this was your response. Looks like you couldn't properly answer me, and had to back down from your opening statement that you 'only read the last 6 pages'. And when promped to explain your scumread, you couldn't help but be forced into saying 'no no i actually read the whole game'. Because you probably couldn't explain why you scumread me based on *exactly those pages* that you have claimed to have read at the time.

[Iconeum]

did you happen to read the post i made where it shows the faulty logic used by VP in his push on me?

VP used meta from a game where NPOW was mislynched by town, and scum just sat by. Then VP applied it to this game where NPOW is once again being pushed, so his logical conclusion should be that it's probably town again but instead ends up scumreading me.

I got the impression that in VP's game scum chose to leave them alone and eventually NPOM attracted enough attention to fuel an all town wagon on them. Whereas in this game scum (you) have chosen to jump on them early and use the concept that NPOM is safely pushable to attract neutral/positive attention

early in the game

. Pretty sure thats what vp's point was?

Anyway my read on you extends past that concept and includes your progression from the early push even though it does circle back and tie in vp's initial argument

.

Yeah here it is again. Your 'scumread' on me is also because

progression.

But you opened with a scumread on me PRIOR to actually having read that part of the game lol

omg i can feel it

here we go

[jankofan]

lol I said I had *just* read the last 6 pages. I had read the previous pages aswell beforehand while not being able to post.

[Iconeum]

ico's case on janko, gif'ified

Spoiler:

i'm done taking a backseat in this game boys and girls
ya'll can either push me because *reasons*, townread me and help me push this scum, or sort me based on whatever you want

janko opens with a scumread on me while only having read the last couple pages of the game, on which i haven't posted on several of those



when asked to explain that scumread, janko resorts to 'but i actually read the entire game'
This translates to Iconeum catching scum faking a read, which looks very similar to:



datisi begins to push back on Janko's scumread, saying the reasons are NAI at best. But that doesn't suit our friend janko, so it explains in a LOT of words, not very much:

janko, do you think getting annoyed at people pushing you is scum!indicative?

talk to me friend

hey there! umm its context dependant and playstyle dependant. on the whole no, both alignments probably tend to get annoyed at being pushed. Although town might be annoyed i feel like they have a strong focus in and around scumhunting and that should be visible despite their frustration. Whereas, scum can just get a bit tunnel visioned defending themselves and having a lack of general awareness about the game and other slots since they naturally have to manually direct energy toward scum hunting since they feel defending themselves and tunnel visioning on their own pressure are more vital prospects. Whereas town are naturally inclined to scum hunt and task themselves with figuring out whether those pushing them are scum. I feel like scum would focus more on the pressure/push arguments (like what i think icon is doing) whereas town would also be visibly focusing on the persons pushing them and who is scum in general.

which basicly translates to: yes ur right datisi it's not AI except for now when it is

vp was reacting to stuff similar to how i would in their catch up post, and I'm seeing sincere motivation and perception behind andres' posting

npom could be scum. "missing" snows claim and asking her what it was instead of just scrolling back and finding it is giving me scum pings. seems to be "active lurking".

anyway i'm sheeping koba's list and would vote to hang in {testa, ico, npom}

it is simply NOT POSSIBLE to scumread both me AND npow at this stage. You just spent a lot of effort in showing why my push on npow is scum!motivated, which left no room for you to be able to read it as a S vs S interaction. Yet 2 of your 3 scumreads are exactly that.

I'm townreading you because i feel like you're pushing me and it feels like you really want to be right about your take on me and that motivation and the tone that comes with it are obviously town

absolutely not a legit take when your number 1 scumread is your townread's (top?) townread, if you know what i mean

I think the reason I'm tring snow is that she seems like she'a actually introspecting and also that she seems focused on things that people who are solving tend to be focused on

you keep scumreading me despite you townread datisi who is YELLING at you that i'm town, and I've been hard townreading snow TOGETHER with you but i'm still scum with no room for re-evaluation?



and then we have the great switch

bob pushing me if scum is an attempt to pocket datisi. thinks my townread on snow was a white knight attempt which only works if you're scum reading me independently since its ascribing scum motivation to otherwise normal actions.

snow's exit/Bob's entrance were also scummy

this is E-1 (deja vu)

VOTE: bob

weren't you just townreading this slot? i'm very curious what exactly was so scummy about both the rep out AND the rep in

there is only one (1) conclusion



VOTE: janko