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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:05 am
by VisceraEyes
In post 1399, goodmorning wrote: In post 1396, fferyllt wrote:Why Deras do you think? Was he the universally recognized most towny player?
Personally I think Scum is likely to have killed him either because they thought he was a PR or because they thought he was unlikely to be protected. Or both.
About the two of you being alive... Interesting.
What's interesting about us both being alive if you actually believe the reasons you just stated?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:05 am
by GuyInFreezer
@ffer: yeah it's probably a scum wifom
@gm: HOW DID U KNOW THAT U SO SMART
/cap
So yeah. First of all, can you explain again why do you think Eye is scum again?
Please don't tell me to go back and read. If I was gonna, I would've done it myself already.
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:13 am
by goodmorning
In post 1400, VisceraEyes wrote:What's interesting about us both being alive if you actually believe the reasons you just stated?
Because a 50-50 chance on either of you would probably have been a better gamble than a 100 on Deras, which would imply that mayyyyyyybe one of you isn't Town.
BUT THIS IS NK WIFOM AND NOT REAL STUFF HENCE INTERESTING
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:25 am
by goodmorning
From
1287: I mean that his posts tend to be less focused on the game as it is? It's another one of those gut-type things, but there are some symptoms like finding external reasons to vote/unvote (like 814 for example) and lack of real scumhunting or pushing (though YMMV). THE LACK OF PUSHING IS A BIG ONE. In fact, the only wagon he really started was the AA9 one, and that was for this reason: "I'm very suspicious of how ArcAngel has disappeared from this game (but not from the site) after making a bunch of nonsense arguments that disregarded basic probability. That slot has said some very enigmatic things, but
I'd put them all to being differences of playstyle so far
. After some consideration,
I think it's more than just her being terrible town
."
In post 1257, goodmorning wrote: In post 1251, Eye Urn wrote:Do any of you truly believe that any of what I did was indicative of alignment?
This sentence stands out to me as VERY interesting. Surprised nobody else saw it.
From
1070: That Fe is more willing to lynch fffff than he is to lynch Mac or even Rev should speak volumes to anyone who's even glanced at this game.
From
869: Fe is playing very close to the belt, and he's made false arguments one too many times for me to feel comfortable.
I hope this satisfies.
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:38 am
by fferyllt
being alive makes me wonder.
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:43 am
by VisceraEyes
Oh please don't tell me you've never expected to be shot and left alive to wonder the next day. It's like scum101 sista. Drive a wedge between active townies so they focus on each other instead of what they WERE doing, focusing on the game.
Stop worrying. I'll worry if we're both alive at LYLO.
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:50 am
by fferyllt
In post 1405, VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh please don't tell me you've never expected to be shot and left alive to wonder the next day. It's like scum101 sista. Drive a wedge between active townies so they focus on each other instead of what they WERE doing, focusing on the game.
Different site, different meta, and a less effective me in a new environment.
Stop worrying. I'll worry if we're both alive at LYLO.
Not worrying. Considering the lay of the land today. I don't like to ignore elephants in the room.
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:04 am
by VisceraEyes
But it's just a widdle BABY elephant :/
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:06 am
by Mac
The thoughts you are having occured to me too when Deras was killed, but I've experienced something kinda similar and almost fell victim to it so I think we can leave it for now
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:13 pm
by fferyllt
so we're waiting for...?
Eye to either show up or be replaced
Z7 to post his analysis
This apathy is pretty bad. If Eye is scum he has a partner. If he's not there are two scum under the radar atm. I'll try to pull some thoughts together tonight.
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:33 pm
by VisceraEyes
Same. I'm presently in another game off-site that is taking attention until this one picks back up, but obviously that's no excuse. I'll also attempt to put some coherent thoughts together. On the agenda:
Targeting Deras: An Introspective Look into the Mind of Confirmed Town Dead Guys
Z7: How Scumreads Disappear Overnight
-and-
GoodMorning: A Love Story Between Host and Player
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:52 pm
by goodmorning
I died laughing, you've no idea.
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:57 pm
by VisceraEyes
At the end Deras seemed interested in killing GM/Mac, and was primed to oppose an Eye lynch.
I read this one of two ways:
First, one or both of GM/Mac is scum and wanted someone out of their way. This seems feasible to me considering how verbal feryl and I (most active players) were both looking heavily into eye. It stands to reason that Deras would have immediately voted GM.
Alternatively Eye could be pulling some kind of WIFOM bomb by killing someone who was defending him.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:23 am
by goodmorning
Except that of all the players in this game Deras probably held the least sway. What would be the point of anyone killing him because they were or weren't suspected by him?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:34 am
by Mac
I don't think Deras wanted me dead, did he?
Regardless, speculating NK's is stupid in my opinion. I could just as easily accuse you of killing Deras and setting up me/GM/Eye for it, or anyone else in the thread for that matter. Pointless.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:31 am
by fferyllt
from late day 1
In post 1303, Mac wrote:I think there are more lynchworthy targets than AA9 tbh. Guy can you expand on your reasoning a little motte?
AA9 who are your scumreads and why?
If it comes close to deadline I'll hammer but
I'd rather lynch Eye
.
what other targets?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:41 am
by Mac
What are you asking?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:44 am
by fferyllt
ugh. tried to bold two parts of that post. Your first sentence. Obviously Eye, but you said lynchworthy
targets
. Who else were you thinking about?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:34 am
by VisceraEyes
No you're right, he mentioned you unfavorably and it was in a post talking about his lynch preference, and I wrongly assumed that meant he wanted to lynch you. GM is the only one directly implicated by Deras' death.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:35 am
by VisceraEyes
COOL ISO BUTTON ^^
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:11 am
by fferyllt
In post 1413, goodmorning wrote:Except that of all the players in this game Deras probably held the least sway. What would be the point of anyone killing him because they were or weren't suspected by him?
The other two players likely to vote you right out of the gate today are less universally townie. In fact one could be the early lynch leader today based on sentiments expressed so far. Of Z7, Eye and Deras, deras probably would have the most sway, actually.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:14 am
by fferyllt
Z7 did vote you but I think you would have been second lowest in his pile based on his last scumometer. I'm curious about the rationale but I don't find it all that odd that he re-evaluated based on AA's flip. So 2 players known likely to vote you out of the gate - Deras and Eye.
Dunno. Maybe.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:20 am
by VisceraEyes
We need Z7's cooperation to unravel his vote.
I'm curious why Mac has nothing to add.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:29 am
by goodmorning
Mhm, I thought for sure he'd have something to say about one of my posts but he didn't. So there's that.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:19 am
by fferyllt
I think it has been 48 hours since the day started
@Mod could you prod anyone who is due for a prod?
Thanks!