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Kise (4) -- Sir Tornado, Battle Mage, Kmd4390, OhGodMyLife

Not voting: Kise, Sajin, zwetschenwasser, Korejora, Empking, cateraction, semioldguy, Porochaz, Ether
13 alive, 7 to lynch.

Boosting

Kmd4390 (5) -- OhGodMyLife, cateraction, Empking, zwetschenwasser, Kise
Ether (3) -- OhGodMyLife, zwetschenwasser, Sajin
OhGodMyLife (5) -- Ether, Kmd4390, Sir Tornado, Empking, Kise
Battle Mage (4) -- Ether, Kmd4390, cateraction, Empking
Sajin (5) -- Ether, Kmd4390, cateraction, zwetschenwasser, Kise

I STILL fail to see anything scummy about kise's behavior.

He lied about his role.

That's not necessarily damning.

Yes, it is.

zwetschenwasser wrote:That's not necessarily damning.

why do you think this?

There are many possible reasons why one might lie about a role.

And which one is evident here?

Filter Kise. He's hedging his bets pretty thoroughly on this "I'm not lying" thing.

touche... :-/

I. Did. Not. Lie. You call this scumhunting, seriously? Post 1224 is wonderful, BTW.

I was willing to modify the bet, but Patrick obviously thinks it's too severe. I'm surprised no one noticed what he said. But, bet wasn't bullshit in my eyes since I would not have lost. The point was to have a high stakes contest since I'm 100% sure I'm PGO and Ether is 95% sure I'm not. Figured that was enough motivation from both of us to go all out. But it's over with.

OhGodMyLife wrote:Tajo is scum too, don't forget.

Ether wrote:I did look at some stuff overnight, and do feel better about Tajoscum

Battle Mage wrote:What do u think of poptaj?

I think either scum were boosted & earned a daykill, or, more typical, it was a Jack.

Surprisingly, zwet is right. If any of you were to list why you were voting for me, it'd probably be more retarded than the stakes of my bet.

@Sir T - Why?
@BM - Why?
@OGML - Why?
@KMD - O rry? Also, are you at all nervous about receiving 2 boosts knowing that it paints a bullseye on your back?

OhGodMyLife wrote:Sajin's connection to Mastin is undeniable. Lynch him.

I must've missed this. Do tell.
On a similar note, Sajin, I noticed there is barely any interaction or mention of Mastin from you during days 1 & 2. Why did you follow KMD and others by voting Mastin at the start of day 2 when you listed no prior suspicion of him, and then why did you suddenly unvote when he only had 4 votes w/ 9 to lynch? (Boosts could have still been resolved, so I personally saw no reason to abandon ship 1/3 of the way); and why didn't you hop back on the wagon rather than being alone with your OGML-vote?

Sajin wrote:If I come out and say directly who it is, it would defeat the purpose of this ability.

Sajin wrote:My role is only negated if I do not find out ever who got those 2 boosts. Thats why I need to know. The people not telling me are the ones negating my role. If I find out who got them then anyone with a extra boost should be scum.

A bit weird of a role, but considering everyone who has voted for you today were also early on the Mastin wagon, I doubt they're mafia. I think I know who MissTake would have given the boost to anyway.

I am against policy lynches. I found several of the people who voted Mastin for reasons of "I don't like the playstle" an excuse to not scumhunt. So I went another direction and was wrong. I found Mufasa scummy for all the reasons I posted. Even mufasa saw why he was scummy in my eyes.

I supported a Mastin lynch from the point he claimed onward. He claimed the scum role from Boost Mafia 1. It was incredibly obvious he was scum after this point. His vote count reached too high for me to vote him after I was back from V/LA even though I stated he was scum and why. I waited for boosts to resolve and then Mastin was hammered before I saw the thread.

I find it curious that you do not mention cateraction who was voting Mastin early in the day, then swapped to Mufasa when the vote count was 7 to 7.

@Kise- who?

Because I know about cat's motives already. Here:

cateraction wrote:

millar13 wrote:

cateraction wrote:Umm, if you recall, I was voting for Conso because he's annoying pain in the ass, not because I particularly thought either way about his alignment. Changing my vote to someone I think is scum is hardly scummy.

Without an actual reason, at this stage in the game it is

as scummy as hell

I agree with reasons others have put forth, and the final straw was that his defense was almost totally "Hey look at ConsoM!"

Perhaps you misunderstand what I meant by my vote on ConsoM, i didn't think one way or another about his alignment when I voted, he just annoyed me. I was then asked not to change my vote till the boosts were resolved. I resolved the boost, and then changed my vote.

Ironically, cateration falls in the category of people you say wanted to policy lynch Mastin. Additionally, the manner that cateraction swaps votes shows that he was comfortable with Mastin up until Mufasa further acted scummy.

By the looks of things, you voted Mastin D2 to join the crowd early on, and this was at a point where Mastin did not yet roleclaim. So I need to ask again what [would have been] your reason was for voting Mastin at the start of D2?

(greedy bastard)


I noticed millar was pretty anti-Mastin D1, so he looks good to me.

Sajin wrote:@Kise- who?

Come again?

Kise wrote: A bit weird of a role, but considering everyone who has voted for you today were also early on the Mastin wagon, I doubt they're mafia. I think I know who MissTake would have given the boost to anyway.

Who?

The lurkiness and unwillingness to claim at end of day 1.

TBH, the person I think received MT's boost is also someone I think is town. Not sure if I would be doing him right by outing him.

Can you explain further what happens when you don't figure out who this person is? Like, how is it that [the mod?] takes away your powers from all this?

If I find out who the two boosts went to then all further extra boosts should be scum.

How many (#) players do you know have extra boosts?

1 person who I still think is scum.

How do any further extra boost make him/her (:)) scum?

Boost Mafia 1 had secret boosting by scum.

I would like to force the mafia to either CC the extra boosts given or to be subject to my investigations. I do not see how thats bad play.

So basically the only way for you to find out who's mafia is if they voluntarily come forth right now and admit to having the boost...?

Also, I only have an idea of who MT gave the boost to, but it's nothing of certainty.

Kise - Jack= JOAT? Why would there be one of them here?

BM

No. If all town elements claim if they were extra boosted now, then all other elements that have boosts are scum.