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Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:03 pm**

@GM
Because I actually liked that post by him and you tried to dissect it to make it look scummy.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:07 pm**

How on earth do you find that post Townish? He never once demonstrated examples of why he thought I was scummy, choosing to avoid the question by saying I was "defensive" (no examples) and then "dishonest" (again no examples). When I asked for said examples, he never provided them, choosing instead to provide a readslist which basically gave "hmm" reads on everyone and agreeing on a semantic issue with fff.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:08 pm**

@Z7: when you read this, please summarize your case on VE please.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:09 pm**

At any rate that slot is Scum. Call me up when we're all in agreement on either a Z lynch or an Fe lynch.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:10 pm**

Okay so you weren't interested in my answer anyway. Good to know. /salute

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:14 pm**

I was interested until I noticed that it was irrational.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:14 pm**

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:15 pm**

What do you mean "it was irrational"? I hadn't even explained it yet! You just assumed it was irrational and wrote me off!

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:16 pm**

##Unvote
##Vote: goodmorning

L-2.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:17 pm**

Oh, THAT answer. No, I'm still interested in that answer actually.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:17 pm**

No, actually you can just die instead. *smooches*

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:19 pm**

GFY, It's 1 am and I have 4 essays to write in the next 12 hours, sue me if my reading comprehension skills are in the toilet

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:23 pm**

In post 1464, VisceraEyes wrote:
In post 1461, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1460, VisceraEyes wrote:
In post 1458, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1454, VisceraEyes wrote:I don't care anymore, Z's posting is atrocious and I want to kill it with fire. He's clearly not reading the thread and clearly doesn't care about finding actual scum.

fferyllt, why are you willfully ignoring Z's filter? You didn't have a town read on Carey either, yet here we are.
The difference is that I
had
a town read on Fropome. We have 2 remaining new-ish players who maybe can't help but do scummy stuff because they don't know better. And we have 5 players who are all experienced enough to play a scum game that is way less scummy looking than the new-ish players.

Games like this are why mafia gives me insomnia.
My point is that my appearance and subsequent posting flipped your read of Carey's slot. Why is Z's posting not affecting you in a similar way? Do you find Z's posting to be particularly townie? If so, could you show me how? If not, could you maybe further explain your town-read on Frop?
I really didn't know what to think of Carey.

There is a consistency to Z7's reads. That's a bit of a concern. That and the middle of his scumometer doesn't really take a stand on players by categorizing them. there's no sense of how much more townish or scummy a player is than the player to their left or right.

OTOH we have players who haven't posted a comprehensive reads list since...mid day 1?

With Fropome I could see what prompted every in-thread reaction, and could follow the town-thinking in his posts, including when, and why he got paranoid about me and what later allayed the paranoia somewhat. I don't have that insight into Z7.
The bolded is where you lost me. What does the bolded statement have to do with Z7's alignment? How is that on the otherhand to a problem you have with Z7's posting?

It's not a problem I have with Z7. It's a problem I have with giving him shit about his scumometer, since at least I know in general what his reads are. I am going to have to dig to find/remind myself of Mac's reads.

And re: Fropome, that's nice and everything, and what you'd said before. However without showing me what you mean, again I'm just supposed to take your word for it...not doing much to convince me not to lynch Z7.

that's usually a problem with being asked to prove a negative.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:26 pm**

I would think we could have a conversation since several of us are here.

VE, Who do you think is Scum (other than me)?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:28 pm**

Aand he's gone :[

This game has actually not been that stressful for the most part.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:34 pm**

ff, do you actually think I'm Scum? If so, why?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:38 pm**

what? where did I say I think you are scum? most of my reads went kinda null-ish at the start of day 2, but that's pretty typical of me unless I have some seriously strong residual day 1 town reads.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:43 pm**

For some reason I thought you were the one who laid the first vote on me but that was Z. Apparently I can't comprehend anything at all. WELL OK

But since it's Z, that makes VE's vote a little bit interesting.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:45 pm**

Hmmmmm?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:48 pm**

What, pray tell, does "hmmm?" mean?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:51 pm**

It means I'm curious how my vote on you is interesting. You asked me a question, and when I called you out on it you wave me off...until I vote for you, THEN you're interested in talking to me. Did I miss a step somewhere?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:53 pm**

I waved you off because I honestly didn't really notice that I asked a question in 1476, I thought you were referring to the one in 1474 which you appeared to have answered.

Yes, I find your vote interesting because it's with Z's vote. If you don't see where that might be unusual, look back a couple hours at your capslocking. Unlike my own capslocking I assume it is not done in party context?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:54 pm**

OH FFS, SYNTAX FANCY ESSAY STYLE

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:59 pm**

You're just not interested in my opinion if I don't agree with you. God and that's a horrible terrible town tell.

GOD DAMNIT

##UNVOTE FUCKING GM

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:00 pm**

Mac/Eye is where I'm guessing scum lie if I'm wrong about Z.

And they're not giving fucks about this game. So whoopity doo, I guess we get to wait.

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