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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:05 pm
by Momrangal
In post 1326, Disaster Cartel wrote:idk maybe I should be reconsidering notty bc it feels like he's just pushing town the whole time but he feels so righteous about it that I think he's more likely town with his head up his ass than scum
I'm not sure how you're even coming to this conclusion. Aren't you also scum reading myself and nacho?
And you think this despite the massive push back against him? You think this despite the fact that there are people defending him?
Right now it looks like Nacho is the easiest elimination if town. Why do you have such a dramatic reaction to my vote and why are you so keen to ignore everything that has already happened around NM?
You must have a terrible opinion on my scum game if you think Im gonna run away from a Nacho!partner pursuit
In post 1348, notscience wrote:I already said the scum team is you nacho (mena/salsa) mom notmaf
All maras done is omgus all game lmao
And you wonder why I question your game awareness
In post 1349, SirCakez wrote:Mom is a universal a undead but no traction came on her wagon
Seems pretty obvious what is going on there
Who's protecting me?
In post 1359, SirCakez wrote:I'd love to murder Mom my worry is that if Nacho is scum that after Mom flips scum one of the Nacho drivers will be killed and it will be hard to flip him
This makes no sense. Even if nacho is scum, town doesn't need a total scum wipe to win
I need to stop at the top of 56
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:07 pm
by Momrangal
You say you realize you're tunnelling but you haven't showed any signs of reconsidering. Why are you so adamant against even talking about NM?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:11 pm
by notscience
Wow it’s almost like this is an OMGUS
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:12 pm
by Venus Fly Trap
In post 1476, Momrangal wrote:
You say you realize you're tunnelling but you haven't showed any signs of reconsidering. Why are you so adamant against even talking about NM?
mom honestly i don't get why you're focusing on nm so much
~ skitter
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:13 pm
by notscience
I shut it down early but have since said he’s probably scum (as are you!)
But you can’t ask why I won’t consider him when all you’ve done is blind vote him lmao
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:14 pm
by Kismet
In post 1476, Momrangal wrote:You say you realize you're tunnelling but you haven't showed any signs of reconsidering. Why are you so adamant against even talking about NM?
which reads in particular is he wrong on?
what is your current feeling about nacho?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:15 pm
by Momrangal
Because everyone else is either so keen to either ignore him, ignore what's happening around him or seemingly chainsaw.
Like how all I've done is omgus?
Pedit: my feelings around nacho are complex
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:17 pm
by notscience
Nacho scumreads you “nacho is scum”
I say you’re scum snd all you’ve done is cast shade at me lmao
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:17 pm
by Kismet
In post 1475, Momrangal wrote:This makes no sense. Even if nacho is scum, town doesn't need a total scum wipe to win
this goes both ways - if nm is scum, he doesn't necessarily need to be flipped either.
I guess my Q is why do you think he's the mostly likely person out of the whole playerlist to flip scum right now?
that just seems a weird feeling for anyone to have about not_mafia in D1 of any game
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:17 pm
by Venus Fly Trap
ok non-answer r.e. nacho noted
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:22 pm
by notscience
(I have that feeling Bork)
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:29 pm
by Momrangal
I've played with NM scum recently and the vibe is vaguely familiar. Despite the fact that his meta is what it is, there is alot of early bussing when pushed, defending by partners and redirection elsewhere.
I would hate to he defending another null read here but Its odd that Nacho gets the heat he does and it hasnt relented even after the game has moved on. Almost as if the team doesn't know where else to go outside of Nacho in the scenario of Nacho!town elimination.
Theres a soft dig against his push and walk back on eeveelutions but I don't see pushes outside of that. It feels like the oush is stale but it's still being done
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:30 pm
by notscience
Heat? I’ve been pulling teeth to get votes all game lmao
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:31 pm
by Momrangal
I've also never actually said that I scumread Nacho
The only person that I could have actually omgussed here is cakes
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:36 pm
by Momrangal
In post 1479, notscience wrote:I shut it down early but have since said he’s probably scum (as are you!)
But you can’t ask why I won’t consider him when all you’ve done is blind vote him lmao
Why would you shut down something you think could be a bus?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:39 pm
by The Bulge
hmm don't expect much from me tonight but I could vote nancho
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:41 pm
by Kismet
In post 1111, Momrangal wrote:I think you're dropping you're read on venus hydra too early and pushing a town elimination especially if NM is scum Here.
i initially read this as you scumreading nacho but i think i just misinterpreted it at this point
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:43 pm
by Momrangal
In post 1417, notscience wrote:Like Mara and notmaf are definitely scum yes
But I want to take out the strong scum first.
Waitwait
What? This is uncalled for. I've had more than my fair share of scumgames where I've carried my team
Pedit: that's a post to Nacho though?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:47 pm
by Momrangal
It may have been a long time but Nacho has always been weak when scum play a reach out game with him and basic, instinctive reactions don't really change with time
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:48 pm
by Kismet
yeah, sounded as if you were calling him out.
hence my agreement w/ noddy's
1398
i think your vote on n_m looks considerably better if that's not what's happening though
overall, yes, i get that a lot of shit is happening around nacho, but I'd like you to be a little clearer w/ what you mean there. Do you still scumread infinity and vft?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:56 pm
by Momrangal
I think theres a chainsaw effect happening especially if Nacho rand town here, and it's an effect that happened under everyone else's noses that town got wrapped up in it. I think VFT was a major component in that and one of infinity/notsci
At the same time I don't know if noddy dogmatically pushes this hard if he doesn't actually beleive in his push. He sets himself up as being largely responsible for a Nacho!town elimination and last I remember he doesn't really have the gusto or balls to do that
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:57 pm
by Venus Fly Trap
what does that even mean >.>
who's being chainsawed
~ skitter
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:57 pm
by Venus Fly Trap
and why is nacho town?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:09 pm
by Momrangal
Nacho himself is largely null but if I'm right about the circumstances around NM and Nachos push there, circumstantially I think hes likely town
What would you call the whole thing of Nacho gaining alot of headturns due to his early NM push,
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:15 pm
by petapan
In post 1362, Disaster Cartel wrote:Here are the relevant posts and they’re just bad or neutral:
blah
looking for reasons to avoid NM
nothing posting
In post 195, SirCakez wrote:I see a bunch of pages here but it is very late so I will see y'all tomorrow
nothing posting
In post 240, SirCakez wrote:
why not a good book ^.^
I will sheep this in lack of something better
still reading
VOTE: disaster cartel
incredibly lazy vote on me that’s not really justified but worth bearing in mind that I’m p sure others had also been voicing dislike of me (like kismet) making this safe
In post 245, SirCakez wrote:I like Kismet, Salsa and Infinity. Not crazy about notsci, L+G, or Venus Fly Trap. I can have lots of scumreads in this game
In post 154, Disaster Cartel wrote:I stg if we have to have another conversation about policy limming and why it’s worth it I will put my face through my desk given the context
-Mena
this seems so fake
In post 167, Disaster Cartel wrote: In post 162, notscience wrote:Or we could let the game breathe and if we really can’t come up with a better option and need a deadline scramble then we decide to go there
I’m not saying we speed lim I’m saying that the only reason policy lims don’t work is bc people get attached to their pet SRs which most of the time aren’t any better than rand, and we should just play it safe and agree that we’re limming NM unless someone basically claims scum
-Mena
YIKES
In post 208, Nachomamma8 wrote:Vote: Not_Mafia
Was a fun thought while it lasted. Don't think notscience is out of scum range but do like what he's posted so far.
If Not_Mafia flips scum (which is looking more and more possible by the minute), then ^this^ is a potential partner.
sure dude
this is true
This has already been covered, but when pushed on these reasons they just... weren’t good and didn’t have much depth to them. But after I interrogated cakez on that, did he like re-evaluate or revise his read at all? No, he just doubled down, and that’s what he’s done on nacho too
He’s just picking the easiest targets and coming up with reasons to have his vote on them. His vote on nacho is v much scum looking to make sure a wagon goes through imo
neat, mena's town
