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VOTE: Shadow
I'm starting to think that shadow's the most suspicious person here.

Everyone else has at least shown some hesitation to the Elsa situation, but Shadow just wants to lynch.

my daily contribution:

1. I think Elsa is lying but won't risk a lynch on a judas
2. I don't understand the Sakura wagon
3. I think Sakura is town
4. I like pineapple pizza

UNVOTE:

Sakura Hana wrote:VOTE: Shadow
I'm starting to think that shadow's the most suspicious person here.

#sheeping VOTE: shadowlesscloud

In post 152, Sakura Hana wrote:Everyone else has at least shown some hesitation to the Elsa situation, but Shadow just wants to lynch.

Because everyone else is banking on night actions that we arnt guarrenteed to have. Look at my last post about the chances of having a second cop or alot of investigatives.

Also look at page one where i was pushing Elsa before she claimed Judas as well

In post 155, Shadowlesscloud wrote:

In post 152, Sakura Hana wrote:Everyone else has at least shown some hesitation to the Elsa situation, but Shadow just wants to lynch.

Because everyone else is banking on night actions that we arnt guarrenteed to have. Look at my last post about the chances of having a second cop or alot of investigatives.

Also look at page one where i was pushing Elsa before she claimed Judas as well

First of all, what's with this reliance on specifically cops.
Second of all, you're talking as if town KP is the only threat to Elsa's life, if (and mostly if) there's SK or other groupscup factions they might shoot him too. If Elsa's telling the truth he's at least a town vigi atm, which is a serious threat to most scum and 3p. And if he's lying he's also still a threat (unless he's lying about the vigi part too, in which case it isnt that bad for them to be alive a night or 2).

If anything.
Elsa's claim means he's going to die sooner rather than later.

But you seem to be just wanting to lynch him, i wonder if you know he's not mafia and just want to recruit him.
As for the early claim... who cares, I've claimed early too several times in the past.

In post 153, JunkoChan wrote:I like pineapple pizza

PL worthy imo.

In post 156, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 155, Shadowlesscloud wrote:

In post 152, Sakura Hana wrote:Everyone else has at least shown some hesitation to the Elsa situation, but Shadow just wants to lynch.

Because everyone else is banking on night actions that we arnt guarrenteed to have. Look at my last post about the chances of having a second cop or alot of investigatives.

Also look at page one where i was pushing Elsa before she claimed Judas as well

First of all, what's with this reliance on specifically cops.
Second of all, you're talking as if town KP is the only threat to Elsa's life, if (and mostly if) there's SK or other groupscup factions they might shoot him too. If Elsa's telling the truth he's at least a town vigi atm, which is a serious threat to most scum and 3p. And if he's lying he's also still a threat (unless he's lying about the vigi part too, in which case it isnt that bad for them to be alive a night or 2).

If anything.
Elsa's claim means he's going to die sooner rather than later.

But you seem to be just wanting to lynch him, i wonder if you know he's not mafia and just want to recruit him.
As for the early claim... who cares, I've claimed early too several times in the past.

I didnt mention the early claim even tho thats another point (what they claimed, not when)

BEcause its a mafia situation, therefore cop. As you pointed out before, none of the others would see mafia.

Tht doesnt mean they wont continue to survive. Everyone is avoiding the question of what happens if one of them simply dont die. They would rather leave it to "Of course they will be resolved" and its disgusting.

What if mafia have a jailkeeper and Elsa is telling the truth? They could ride the two Judas claims all the way to end game as Irrelephant wont be nightkilled cause hes not a threat and Elsa cant kill or be killed.

"But you seem to be just wanting to lynch him, i wonder if you know he's not mafia and just want to recruit him." is honestly just blantant shading as you ignore the points i brought up before.

I can think of several other options that dont involve "Cop" or "Vig" to figure out if something fishy happens, cant you?

In post 159, Sakura Hana wrote:I can think of several other options that dont involve "Cop" or "Vig" to figure out if something fishy happens, cant you?

Not without a heavy sacrifice from town. the most would be a lucky tracker or a watcher. Granted Elsa did ask for one so +townpoints for that?

Maybe im still irked by how Elsa did it, im not one to be pushed back by threats

That's more of an attitude/playstyle issue than an alignment issue.
I remember Elsa being annoyed in the previous game by a vig when i read it, granted Elsa was scum there and i still dont have a town point of reference.

I'm annoyed by a vigilante literally going "claim or I shoot you" like Oka did. That's just stupid to try and control the game all by yourself.

In post 119, Elsa Jay wrote:VT is a safe ass claim with 12 of them around, Ele. And you could have had the same effect if you'd have tossed Judas instead. So you are a liar.

Btw, funny is that i could also have discarded wrong place at the wrong time townie and also gotten the same combination i currently have.

In post 161, Sakura Hana wrote:That's more of an attitude/playstyle issue than an alignment issue.
I remember Elsa being annoyed in the previous game by a vig when i read it, granted Elsa was scum there and i still dont have a town point of reference.

I suppose. But attitude and playstyle can bleed over to alignment. Ive never played with Elsa so the line that is meta is blurred out to me. From my POV, Elsa threatened me to quit pushing her with the threat of being shot after she is lynched.

Considering people can usually choose their alignment.
Meta/Attitude/Playstyle seem like great scumhunting tools to me in GestI

In post 165, Sakura Hana wrote:Considering people can usually choose their alignment.
Meta/Attitude/Playstyle seem like great scumhunting tools to me in GestI

We are going in circles though.

I dont know their meta

Their attitude is scummy

Their playstyle is worse so rn.

???

In post 166, Shadowlesscloud wrote:

In post 165, Sakura Hana wrote:Considering people can usually choose their alignment.
Meta/Attitude/Playstyle seem like great scumhunting tools to me in GestI

We are going in circles though.

I dont know their meta

Their attitude is scummy

Their playstyle is worse so rn.

???

Instead of interacting with me, they early claimed and threatened my life to get the pressure off of themselves like

In post 166, Shadowlesscloud wrote:

In post 165, Sakura Hana wrote:Considering people can usually choose their alignment.
Meta/Attitude/Playstyle seem like great scumhunting tools to me in GestI

We are going in circles though.

I dont know their meta

Their attitude is scummy

Their playstyle is worse so rn.

???

Could be true, or could be just you justifying yourself via early interactions to push a recruitment.

In post 82, Elsa Jay wrote:I couldn't be scum so I got the next best thing.

Hmm...
@Elsa why did you claim?

In post 166, Shadowlesscloud wrote:

In post 165, Sakura Hana wrote:Considering people can usually choose their alignment.
Meta/Attitude/Playstyle seem like great scumhunting tools to me in GestI

We are going in circles though.

I dont know their meta

Their attitude is scummy

Their playstyle is worse so rn.

???

What you're not considering here is that, even if you don't know their meta, there are plenty of players who know their meta and told you about it, so know even if you haven't played with Elsa before, you have that information on your hands and you're not aknowledging it.

Can a Serial Killer be Judas?

In post 171, pinturicchio wrote:Can a Serial Killer be Judas?

Serial Killer is an alignment and so is Judas so no.

In post 170, pinturicchio wrote:

In post 166, Shadowlesscloud wrote:

In post 165, Sakura Hana wrote:Considering people can usually choose their alignment.
Meta/Attitude/Playstyle seem like great scumhunting tools to me in GestI

We are going in circles though.

I dont know their meta

Their attitude is scummy

Their playstyle is worse so rn.

???

What you're not considering here is that, even if you don't know their meta, there are plenty of players who know their meta and told you about it, so know even if you haven't played with Elsa before, you have that information on your hands and you're not aknowledging it.

I alredy said im not aknowleding it because of how biasedit can become. Im going to read people off of how they act in thread and their actions, not by how people tell me i should read others

At bottom of 4. Let's see how many can accurately answer this setup/mechanics thing as I catch up.

Judas is an alignment. The card can be used as alignment and have a role added, or it can be used as a role card which makes it vanilla of whatever alignment is chosen.

Each of the 3 possible setups was an independent draw with a full deck. Cards can duplicate across the 3 setups, but cannot duplicate within a setup. We're playing setup C (some say 3). If you're gonna counter somone be certain it's using a card from the role you actually got for the game.