In post 144, Noraa wrote:VOTE: Dunn
This is probably the right move. I guess this looks omgus-y but shrug it is what it is.
Like furtive SRs me for a RVS post, which i suppose is fair since I SRed them off a RVS post. It's just that SRing someone for their SR on your RVS post seems kind of ridiculous to me, but honestly, sure whatever i guess.
But dunn out here pretending that SR is actually good is kind of like mmmmmmmmmmm very sus. In general, dunn's vibes are also off this game so probscum off that alone.
I have a fairly good track record reading dunn. In fact I haven't read Dunn wrong in a while now, so much that i would say an incorrect read on dunn is basically the equivalent of a guilty on myself.
I'm still uncertain of this read because dunn hasnt posted anything that is like 100% scum or 100% town. But I've given this enough thought, and I think this is where my head is at right now.
In post 147, butterflies wrote:You have read him correctly in both versus and Happy Face, where most people adamantly disagreed with your read
I also read him correctly in my past two games. Flea was in one of them!
VOTE: Dunn
Two players you’re particularly good at reading are Dunn and Math and that’s how Happy Face was different. You and Titus had completely opposite reads on him in that game.
~Nancyfly
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:45 pm
by butterflies
In post 112, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: ProgoWoshua
I wanna go into that furtive defense a bit more. Regardless of furtive's alignment that feels very ulterior motive-y
I also agree with Gamma. Idk, I could go for either. \_o_/
furtive’s posting improved but both him and progo had really bad takes.
Dunn, why are you sheeping a player who had a completely different perspective on muses than you did? I find that really odd.
~Nancyfly
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:09 pm
by Noraa
In post 151, butterflies wrote:Two players you’re particularly good at reading are Dunn and Math
Appreciate your trust in me nancy <333
im not 100% on this dunn read atm. chances are that it flips scum anyways but i do wish to be 100% certain before shoving the wagon hard.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:16 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 149, butterflies wrote:Well, if Dunn is scum, he’d be the hardest one to catch and the most lethal scum.
idk about that
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:20 pm
by Noraa
i mean hardest to catch, yeah probably.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:26 pm
by Gamma Emerald
pls
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:48 pm
by implosion
I'm not anti-dunnWagon, but I do feel like I've misread Dunn as scum for play that is at least on face similar to his play here before.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:51 pm
by implosion
I don't like that Progo has done no analysis since furtiveglance pointed out that he's given almost no analysis. He's made a couple posts today but neither of them has any real substance.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:56 pm
by Dunnstral
Typically the first ~6 posts I make isn't enough to get a conclusive read on me and there is a lot of reaching and jumping to conclusions. Especially trying to tie me to fugitive/progo is reaching. I simply asked Gamma to explain what he was talking about (which to be clear, is not inherently a defense of Fugitive/Progo). I feel that Gamma weakened their own position by saying they don't know or care about what they are accusing Progo of doing. My personal stance on this is that post 22 was a joke and that progo was simply trying to explain as much. Whether they've done no analysis is a different point which has some merit, though I will point out that a lot of what they have done is responding to other people, and when you are responding to other people you aren't as likely to put forward other analysis, especially if they weren't already inclined to doing so.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:14 pm
by Titus
In post 155, Noraa wrote:i mean hardest to catch, yeah probably.
In post 151, butterflies wrote:Two players you’re particularly good at reading are Dunn and Math
Appreciate your trust in me nancy <333
im not 100% on this dunn read atm. chances are that it flips scum anyways but i do wish to be 100% certain before shoving the wagon hard.
Noraa is so obviously town here. I don’t think ze ever makes this kind of post as scum. I’m circling between Dunn, Progo and furtive.
If it weren’t for his terrible vote on you, I’d probably be voting one of the other two but his push on you is just really really bad.
In post 151, butterflies wrote:Two players you’re particularly good at reading are Dunn and Math
Appreciate your trust in me nancy <333
im not 100% on this dunn read atm. chances are that it flips scum anyways but i do wish to be 100% certain before shoving the wagon hard.
Noraa is so obviously town here. I don’t think ze ever makes this kind of post as scum. I’m circling between Dunn, Progo and furtive.
If it weren’t for his terrible vote on you, I’d probably be voting one of the other two but his push on you is just really really bad.
~Nancyfly
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:43 pm
by butterflies
VOTE: Progo
meh
His defence of furtive did ping me especially 82, I think it was.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:46 pm
by Noraa
tbh how about we just vote out dunn and if im wrong (which im probably not), oh well.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:48 pm
by Noraa
Dunn why am i scum?
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:49 pm
by Noraa
Why am I scum and not town who is wrong? Also you know that 6 posts is enough to come up on a read on anyone.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:53 pm
by butterflies
Yeah, it’s the whole lack of re-evaluating but Idk? But you’re having doubts on Dunn right? So that makes me less confident.
But it really does bother me that he hasn’t yet.
~Nancyfly
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:55 pm
by Noraa
i've had double doubts every time i've been right on dunn. it's nothing strange. im just a paranoid person.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:56 pm
by butterflies
@Progo, can you give us some reads? Why aren’t you trying to solve?
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:03 pm
by butterflies
In post 168, Noraa wrote:i've had double doubts every time i've been right on dunn. it's nothing strange. im just a paranoid person.
I honestly can’t tell with Dunn. In Royalty I knew he was obvscum straight out of the gate but I couldn’t convince anyone. Here I honestly can’t tell.
I’m not opposed but Progo not trying to make any reads is very concerning. Talking about mech is fine but as long as you also make reads.
He hasn’t given any yet. - other than defending furtive.
~Nancyfly
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:18 pm
by implosion
I am inclined toward Noraa town but I wouldn't rule zir being scum out of the question.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:56 pm
by Dunnstral
Why am I supposed to be reevaluating my read?
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:20 pm
by implosion
I will say that I'm not especially a fan of furtive dropping a wall post then peaceing out. Sure, maybe they're busy IRL, but I feel like town after "blowing the game wide open" should be excited, interested in talking about their reads, convincing people, interacting, seeing people's reactions, and so on. Scum after dropping a wall post might feel like they've done their job and can coast.
Two people have disagreed with that read and you’re not re-accessing it. It’s like with both you and furtive you’re fine to voting zir. I think it’s pretty damned obvious Noraa isn’t getting limed today, so it’s definitely a safe vote.
I would expect town!you to be less confident on that vote because Noraa sounds pretty dalned townie to me.