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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:21 am
by Ame
Spring
, I can agree that calling a statement stupid is not the same as calling a person stupid, but you did the latter in the post I referenced. Additionally, the way you have been referring to things as dumb/stupid throughout the game has the implication that they are coming from a dumb/stupid person, so the distinction is disingenuous in this instance and can be cataloged as a form of doublespeak. Furthermore, mafia is a game of reason and debate, involving the use of arguments. Simply brushing off anything you don't immediately agree with as dumb/stupid is not a valid way to form arguments and therefore is against the spirit of the game. It also inhibits you from considering other perspectives on a deeper level, which may lead to missing important information, forcing out information that would have better been concealed, and/or the impediment of the kind of progression that springs from open discussion. Lastly, consistently portraying someone's posts as dumb/stupid is dehumanizing and can lead to the receiver becoming averse to making further attempts at contributing to the game.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:44 am
by Creature
In post 1260, Professor Moriarty wrote:
Flight of the Conchords has died. They were...

Spoiler:
Town LordWelcome, Flight of the Conchords, to Mini 2133: XP Mafia II. Your role is
Town Lord.
Your role costs
4 XP
to upgrade.

You have the following abilities:
  • You start with 2 XP, instead of the default 1.
  • Whenever a Public Mechanic is put into play that costs XP to use, you will gain 1 XP.
  • When you die, each living player will gain 1 XP.
You win when all mafia members are dead and at least one town member remains alive.

Farkset has been treestumped. They are dead, but may continue to post in the thread and in any alignment-confirmed PT's. They were...

Spoiler:
Mafia WatcherWelcome, Farkset, to Mini 2133: XP Mafia II. Your role is
Mafia Watcher.
Your role costs
4 XP
to upgrade.

[REDACTED]

Each night, you may target another player. You will learn the names of all other players who targeted your target with an action that night. For each player that you see visiting your target, you will gain 1 XP.

You win when the mafia control 50% of all living players or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

In addition, the following Public Mechanics have been put into play:

[Gift]
During the night, any player may choose to give any amount of XP to another player. The person using this action loses that much XP, and the target gains that much. If the target dies that night, the action fails, but if the user dies, it succeeds.

[Lynch]
All players may vote to lynch another player using VOTE: Player or
Vote: Player
. Once a majority is reached, the day ends and that player dies.
Ohkay that probably makes spring town

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:44 am
by Creature
Wait, spring rescinded her subbing out?

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:47 am
by Creature
In post 1271, Farkset wrote:Oh well, i'm not going to drown the thread as a treestump
Good old times I shamely did

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:27 am
by Creature
In post 1426, springlullaby wrote:Oh and btw, emotional appeal which is about 99 percent of this game was considered a scumtell in my time.
Ok boomer

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:27 am
by Creature
Oh man I'm probably out of new pages

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:27 am
by Ame
To: Hectic
From: Ame

Spoiler:
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:28 am
by Creature
In post 1452, Creature wrote:
In post 242, Farkset wrote:Flight of the Conchords - I don't like TSTBS posts from either alignment, and being a secret hydra i'd assume it comes from experienced players, not newbies. This is the main reason i'm scumleaning them instead of giving them the benefit of doubt.
springlullaby - To further my thoughts on springlullaby, i think he's pulling a strategy similar to scum!FlavorLeaf, where he intentionally blurts out nonsense to make his post skimmed past instead of read thoroughly while at the same time candidating himself to positions of power.
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Oops I embarrassed myself

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:28 am
by Ame
Creature, now that you're caught up can you tell us who Lady targeted with the NK? She didn't get a chance to.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:30 am
by Creature
In post 1459, Ame wrote:I think we should sort Lady and Momo today.
My role is similar to Town Creature but slightly different. This is my hint. Take it or leave.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:31 am
by Creature
In post 1488, Ame wrote:Would a mod be crazy enough to make tracker, voyeur, and watcher all scum?
Unnecessary

Who claimed tracker?

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:33 am
by Creature
In post 1508, Ame wrote:Creature, now that you're caught up can you tell us who Lady targeted with the NK? She didn't get a chance to.
I don't know what NK. She only trained night 1.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:36 am
by Ame
In post 279, Lady Chloe wrote:I have my reasons to avoid Questing. I share this thought now since you lot will learn my action either way.
In post 1316, Lady Chloe wrote:
In post 1299, Knightmare491 wrote:
In post 1268, Lady Chloe wrote:I did not anticipate the kills.
That's an odd way to start the day. What did you anticipate?
My nightkill.
She says differently.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:45 am
by Creature
You don't need to be a linguistic doctor to realize she meant her death.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:54 am
by Ame
Understood, thank you. Let me know if I overlooked something you were genuinely inquiring about. No one claimed tracker.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:02 am
by Creature
Kinda bored rn and this is the only game I have

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:14 am
by Ame
In post 1515, Creature wrote:Kinda bored rn and this is the only game I have
What are your reads on Raya, Knight, and Hectic? And why so?
What's your conclusion regarding the NK-Fark association?
You had momo as town correct? Is that still the case?
If you replaced into a scum slot would you have approached this game the same way or differently?
Why didn't you start posting when you replaced in? You answered the call soon after it was put out.
What do you think of NK's Spring + Fark + Mastina theory?
On a scale of 0-10 how upset would you be if we lynched you today?

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:27 am
by Creature
In post 1516, Ame wrote:What are your reads on Raya, Knight, and Hectic? And why so?
Raya I lean town for previously having the same two scumreads as Farkset

mastina I kinda liked but not sure if she did anything at all

Hectic I don't remember exactly, I think there was a dissociation from Farkset

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:28 am
by Creature
In post 1516, Ame wrote:What's your conclusion regarding the NK-Fark association?
NK15 pretty much called Fark and spring a SvS which is kinda ballsy to do. However, Fark's vote on him seemed bussing

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:29 am
by Creature
In post 1516, Ame wrote:You had momo as town correct? Is that still the case?
I don't know. I think he wouldn't have given up this easily as scum. Also he was claiming doublevoter

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:30 am
by Creature
In post 1516, Ame wrote:If you replaced into a scum slot would you have approached this game the same way or differently?
I don't know. Too early to tell. I remember in Wake's game I got tired of playing that shit and pretty much gave up midway, I'd probably do the same here if I was scum

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:31 am
by Creature
In post 1516, Ame wrote:Why didn't you start posting when you replaced in? You answered the call soon after it was put out.
I replaced in the game when it was 2 am. Also I always take some time before posting, I want to see any reactions

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:33 am
by Creature
In post 1516, Ame wrote:What do you think of NK's Spring + Fark + Mastina theory?
I think I completely missed it. Looks like a poor job from them considering they're the strongest players in the playerlist. Maybe perhaps spring gave up when mastina was force-replaced. Though, still see spring as town due to her voyeur claim

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:34 am
by Creature
In post 1516, Ame wrote:On a scale of 0-10 how upset would you be if we lynched you today?
I would give it a 3 because I'm still barely caring about mafia

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:16 pm
by Not Known 15
In post 1522, Creature wrote:
In post 1516, Ame wrote:What do you think of NK's Spring + Fark + Mastina theory?
I think I completely missed it. Looks like a poor job from them considering they're the strongest players in the playerlist. Maybe perhaps spring gave up when mastina was force-replaced. Though, still see spring as town due to her voyeur claim
Spring lied about xp requirements. They may have lied about other parts their role, too.