In post 15243, butterflies wrote:Gamma said to me as a FRIEND that I should consider getting a “new pastime”. I can believe that the intention wasn’t ever to DELIBERATELY hurt me irrespective of alignment but as town, I could see the possibility of why Gamma could possibly view that as “helpful”.
It absolutely WAS?’T - regardless of the different ways he chose to explain it - THAT I want to make crystal clear.
However, to say as a FRIEND, you should consider a new “pastime” as SCUM, I honestly don’t know how anyone could possibly view that as either not exploitive or gross if he’s scum here?
Because if he’s actually scum here, he’s in essence telling me - AS A FRIEND - I need to make myself more miselimable or I need to stop playing mafia.
That’s what FL did but the difference was that FL actually did know he was deliberately hurting me and didn’t care. He said as much in the tm scum pt.
Anyway, my entire arguments wrt to this is I just have real trouble believing scum!Gamma has so little respect for our friendship, that he would prioritize winning a scumgame over it.
That’s not what I meant to get across ftr
I was saying that bit about talking as a friend specifically in regards to my point about you getting upset at being FoSed. I was trying to communicate that I wasn’t trying to attack you personally, just trying to say your play was not good.
The part about finding a new pastime was a rhetorical “if my perception is correct (which I didn’t think it was) then I don’t get how this game is fun for you”.
A part of why this came up is honestly, I do see how people have issues with you. I think you get mistreated at times but there’s also points where I would understand if someone had issue with you. Role-A-Pair is probably the most glaring instance of it. You made it blatantly obvious who you were when you reacted to being pressured.
~GE
You’re point is still and WILL CONTINUE to be lost in me but if you enjoy pissing me off, by all means keep at it. Flea is really pissed on my behalf as well ftr. Anyways, no one had issues with me in that game besides apparently you.
I am trying extremely hard not to make this game unpleasant so I will not elaborate on how this is making me feel.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:24 pm
by butterflies
In post 15248, Off The Hook wrote:That’s what I said
You’ve been parked on me and BB has been parked on Johnny
Should say “they’ve EACH been parked”
~GE
OtH is clearly unaligned with anyone because they are all over the place with their votes. I don’t think they play like this as scum.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:16 pm
by Off The Hook
Not saying there’s anything that actually makes MLB and BB associated from their votes
I just think it’s sketchy that two people are voteparked on separate slots
~GE
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:58 pm
by Best Bird
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:35 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
VOTE: Best Bird
Just thinking about it.
I'm not scum.
Noraa, Butterflies and Mislim prolly ain't scum but if they are, BB is the partner.
Butterflies doesn't make sense. Scum could push me or Hook here, going back on their Noraa read just unnecessarily complicates things.
Mislim is a stretch because I have a pretty hard townread there.
Hook (meaning gamma) is looking transparently out of their depth and a little lost right now so that's a coin toss for me.
Being challenged on the gladiate basically clearing Noraa has shook my perception of the whole game a little (and made me feel a little defeated) but I'm still willing to bet the game on Nora's town. Or I'm at least willing to bet the day.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:38 pm
by Best Bird
Can't commit to a stance can you there johnny?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:38 pm
by Best Bird
Bring it - let's pretend we have a gladiate between me and johnny.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:39 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Super down
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:41 pm
by Roden
I mean...I'd vote Johnny over Bird in that case.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:43 pm
by Noraa
how about a gladiate between bird and oth?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:47 pm
by Best Bird
would be super fun if you read the game before talkking
And this post seems to be coming out of nowhere since Noraa’s preferred lim order last I checked, was BB, Johnny, OtH.
And I don’t see how Noraa has been obvious town here in the slightest, so I find Johhny hard te zir extremely preplexing. It’s possibly I could be wrong and this could possibly be a tmi read but I rn feel that Noraa is doesn’t look like town!Noraa in any game I can recall.
But zir wanting OtH into a hypothetical gladiate, just why?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:32 pm
by butterflies
It actually wouldn’t shock me rn if I get nk’d next because if I’m right, scum probably wants me out of the way the most. Probably because I’m both obvtown and likely right.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:31 pm
by Noraa
In post 15267, butterflies wrote:And I don’t see how Noraa has been obvious town here in the slightest, so I find Johhny hard te zir extremely preplexing.
johnny thinks im town for the gladiate and whatever else happened around it. what obvtown read are you talking about??
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:31 am
by Best Bird
1.5 days left people
let's get on it
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:57 am
by Save The Dragons
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:19 am
by JohnnyFarrar
Ok vote me then y'all. Let's go. This spread spells disaster for all of us
In post 15243, butterflies wrote:Gamma said to me as a FRIEND that I should consider getting a “new pastime”. I can believe that the intention wasn’t ever to DELIBERATELY hurt me irrespective of alignment but as town, I could see the possibility of why Gamma could possibly view that as “helpful”.
It absolutely WAS?’T - regardless of the different ways he chose to explain it - THAT I want to make crystal clear.
However, to say as a FRIEND, you should consider a new “pastime” as SCUM, I honestly don’t know how anyone could possibly view that as either not exploitive or gross if he’s scum here?
Because if he’s actually scum here, he’s in essence telling me - AS A FRIEND - I need to make myself more miselimable or I need to stop playing mafia.
That’s what FL did but the difference was that FL actually did know he was deliberately hurting me and didn’t care. He said as much in the tm scum pt.
Anyway, my entire arguments wrt to this is I just have real trouble believing scum!Gamma has so little respect for our friendship, that he would prioritize winning a scumgame over it.
That’s not what I meant to get across ftr
I was saying that bit about talking as a friend specifically in regards to my point about you getting upset at being FoSed. I was trying to communicate that I wasn’t trying to attack you personally, just trying to say your play was not good.
The part about finding a new pastime was a rhetorical “if my perception is correct (which I didn’t think it was) then I don’t get how this game is fun for you”.
A part of why this came up is honestly, I do see how people have issues with you. I think you get mistreated at times but there’s also points where I would understand if someone had issue with you. Role-A-Pair is probably the most glaring instance of it. You made it blatantly obvious who you were when you reacted to being pressured.
~GE
Can we not with personal attacks? Theres absolutely no fucking need for it ever.
If you want to say someones play isn't good, its easy to do.
Hey Gamma, I think your people skills need work.
Simple as that really.
And then you go on to say "I do see how people have issues with you" - what the hell is going through your mind when you type this out? Do you have any idea how minimising that is to say to someone?
Do you have any freaking idea at all of the effect and impact of what you're saying beyond your intent?
Cause intent ain't a magic wand.
I expect better of you. do better.
-Flea.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:37 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 15272, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Ok vote me then y'all. Let's go. This spread spells disaster for all of us
If it’s not you than who?
Like I think Noraa’s is flaming obvscum here but I can’t even thoroughly convince Flea of that and why would you even offer up yourself as a lim? It’s gamethrowing irrespective of your alignment.
I think BB’s turn around on me was more believable than yours and as I’ve already said, OtH’s play really doesn’t make sense as scum and MB just looks like tunnelled town.
