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Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 9:09 pm
by Ineffective
Im not doing random stuff barcode- i explained every step of the way - ffer has good meta on your predecessor - your playstyles clash with VE and you both look like buthurt town - if im wrong about my POE i really dont care because im voting in one of the 3 remaining players regardless and second guessing yourself is a garbage strat after you have followed a reasonable line of logic.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 9:11 pm
by Ineffective
Time for a smokebreak ffer you can go to bed ill see you tomorrow - i got some wrangling to do with barcode it seems anyways... I can just feel the incoming wall of text telling me why i havnt displayed logic
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 9:21 pm
by fferyllt
fwiw I am following your logic chains.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 9:47 pm
by Ineffective
In post 80, Mac wrote:Hello everyone. Nice to see someone familiar faces, and not so familiar faces too in this game.
I've had a brief scan through on my phone and Deras makes me feel uneasy for his blatant OMGUS on Rev and it looked like a bit of a shotgun defence of himself. I think it's worth keeping an eye on, it could be a scum reaction but similarly, it could be newbtown too.
Currently off to work, will have a more indepth look when I get back.
how did this guy not get instalynched after his first post?
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 9:50 pm
by Ineffective
Derus was obvious town all d1... Which is why he died n1 2 of the 3 people left in my poe list had the person they replaced vote to lynch him almost immediately for shitty reasons
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 9:52 pm
by Ineffective
Lemme factcheck that statement - i keep having to check and recheck replacement identities - being a late replacement in a replacement heavy game kinda sucks
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 9:56 pm
by fferyllt
good morning and revenus/GiF I think.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:13 pm
by Ineffective
But then there is revenues asking carey(VE) to replace out... I was wondering if that was a scum to scum interation or scum trying to look town for asking a towny to replace out for being useless or just a natural response
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:17 pm
by Ineffective
Mac echoed the call to replace out
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:17 pm
by Z7-852
I'am not saying (
#1600) that Ineffective actions are completely random. I'am saying that because you haven't read the whole thing and haven't made up your mind about players yet you are doing votes and assumptions that you withdraw in the next post. You have logic behind your post but the logic is incomplete due the lack of information. That's reason why you have to take your time and read the whole thing before posting anything.
I also disagree that second guessing yourself (
#1600) is a bad strategy. Time to time you have to look at yourself from third perspective and see if you have done any mistakes. If you assume you are following reasonable line of logic there should be any errors but you still must do your reads again just to make sure.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:23 pm
by Ineffective
So mac and revenus voted the same obvious town for bad reasons and both asked carey to replace out and. Mac townreads revenus based on last games meta... Seems buddyish... Worthy to note that mac is the one doing the echoing of revenus and townreading him so could be scum cozying up to town
VOTE: mac
I vould see a goodmoring/mac team fairly easily
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:26 pm
by Ineffective
@z7 my job is to give you a freash perspective... Getting too involved with the entire game is both tedius and likely unfruitful... Im looking at key points. My emotional distace from the game should be viewed as an asset that counteracts everyones over-involvement... Let me play my part.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:28 pm
by Ineffective
In post 1610, Ineffective wrote:So mac and revenus voted the same obvious town for bad reasons and both asked carey to replace out and. Mac townreads revenus based on last games meta... Seems buddyish... Worthy to note that mac is the one doing the echoing of revenus and townreading him so could be scum cozying up to town
VOTE: mac
I vould see a goodmoring/mac team fairly easily
By voted i mean "pushed" i dont think mac actually voted or i havnt seen it yet.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:29 pm
by Ineffective
Tbh tho im still reading but my second guessing will only go as far as the bounds of mac/gif/goodmorning
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:34 pm
by fferyllt
mac pushed but didn't vote iirc.
Mac also picked up a piece of the case that GM built for me being scum, argued it for a bit and voted me. He was gone for a few days and then unvoted after I rebutted the argument. There really wasn't much appetite for my lynch, which didn't make it worth pursuing maybe.
I could probably get behind a mac wagon, after I actually...you know...get some sleep and think about it with a fresh brain.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:39 pm
by Ineffective
In post 148, goodmorning wrote:@Deras: If you're actually paying attention and have time to say you are, you have time to post a brief post with a read or two instead of "lol I'll try again later".
Votes stand out in thread. It is very easy to skim the thread looking for a vote on you to OMGUS if you're into that sort of thing.
@ffffff: I am aware that that was the vote you thought was an OMGUS vote, being the only vote I have made on Fro so far. What I am not aware of is why you think that. Overreaction is a valid reason to vote someone and, should he explain himself reasonably, I would not then have a reason to keep voting him. So far he has not done so, therefore I do have a valid reason to keep voting him.
In case anyone is interested in my reads:
Town
ffffffffffffffff (dropping towntells everywhere)
Fe (this is, of course, Eye Urn) (for future reference) (pretty townish, but somewhat vague at times in a way?)
Null
Deras (hard newb rea, not so hard any other read)
Mac (few posts)
Rev (I am flipflopping on him. I do not know why.)
Carey (general behaviour BUT it's kind of his playstyle, I'll have a real read on him when he posts substance)
Null
AT3 (reads post)
Fro (pending explanation)
Scum
goodmorning has both of the others in his middle of the line null category early gake... Which is the best place to have your scumpartner in at this phase
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:42 pm
by Ineffective
In post 1614, fferyllt wrote:mac pushed but didn't vote iirc.
Mac also picked up a piece of the case that GM built for me being scum, argued it for a bit and voted me. He was gone for a few days and then unvoted after I rebutted the argument. There really wasn't much appetite for my lynch, which didn't make it worth pursuing maybe.
I could probably get behind a mac wagon, after I actually...you know...get some sleep and think about it with a fresh brain.
Wait wtf... Gm built a scumcase against you after townreafing you and you fossing him for it??????????!?? talk about odd behavior
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:46 pm
by fferyllt
It was such a bizarrely terrible and poorly formed case that I took it for terribad town reasoning. and she's been in my null/null-town pile ever since. But, it's on my revisit list, and I have reread that part of the thread periodically. I just can't quite get my head around a scum player putting so much effort into it and not coming up with a more concise and persuasive case.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:47 pm
by Ineffective
Omg my typos i need sleep too
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:52 pm
by Ineffective
As goodmorning pointed out early game we have an edge on an IC player... THAT POST WAS AWK AS FUK BTW... It almost pitted her against town in phrasing
Gunna do some datamining and see if i can rattle that bit down
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:13 am
by GuyInFreezer
Hi Brakes.
R u town this game?
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:27 am
by GuyInFreezer
Also it's been a while that Mac stopped posting, isn't it?
VOTE: Mac
I'm rolling with PoE.
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:38 am
by goodmorning
In post 1582, Ineffective wrote:Then again i read my own slot as scum before i replaced into it and was really hoping it was a scumslot
Your continual saying of this makes me even more firm in my belief that it is indeed a scumslot.
Explain.
I happen to disagree with this, but whatever.
Ugghhhhhh I don't wanna case-make
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:40 am
by fferyllt
In post 1621, GuyInFreezer wrote:Also it's been a while that Mac stopped posting, isn't it?
VOTE: Mac
I'm rolling with PoE.
I have a pretty good town vibe re ineffective.
Your vote is L-1
I want to hear from GM and Mac, but I'm quite willing to hammer ---> ie
intent to hammer
.
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:43 am
by fferyllt
You disagree that Revenus looked townish? I thought so, and I thought GiF's posts upon replacing also looked townish.