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Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:33 pm
by Bacde
In post 1623, Kublai Khan wrote:Either Nachomamma8 is scum with Oversoul, or scum are pushing along the Nachomamma8 wagon to try to get Oversoul to live another day.
This is interesting and I hadn't thought of that

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Nachomamma8 - 10 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Nero Cain, Slandaar, Desperado, Seanald, Oversoul, CrashTextDummie, BeautyAndTheBeast, Amethyst Kitty)

Bacde - 2 (Om the Destroyer, Bulbazak)

fuzzybutternut - 2 (thezmon221, Cephrir)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 2 (Kublai Khan, Thor665)
Red Ryu - 2 (Syryana, ArcAngel9)
Cephrir - 1 (Baby Spice)
ArcAngel9 - 1 (DLG)
Desperado - 1 (Nachomamma8)

Not Voting - 2 (Hanzo_5, EddieFenix)

With
24
players alive, it's
13
to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

Red Ryu is V/LA from Friday, May 17th until Monday, May 20th.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:37 pm
by Bacde
Although why isn't nacho voting OS anymore?

And why wasn't he explaining why to vote OS to me better?

Them being scum together would actually make sense

plus AA9 looked townier

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:50 pm
by BeautyAndTheBeast
oh god why do arc, kublai, ctd, AK and cephir all look like scum on this page

also why is everyone letting thor skate. like omg

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:52 pm
by Bacde
or maybe scum are bussing nacho right now?

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:00 pm
by Slandaar
ArcAngel IS town.

Bulba is the scum you guys seem to always be missing.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:01 pm
by BeautyAndTheBeast
the whole team?

eta: that was to bc

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:01 pm
by BeautyAndTheBeast
UNVOTE: nacho

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:02 pm
by BeautyAndTheBeast
kublai's new nickname is "kubbles"

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:45 pm
by Amethyst Kitty
Ryu is a weaker Ping, I would much rather have Cephrir over Ryu and I still have a scum read on Nacho.

V/LA until tuesday


~Mara

<<< Telling me if it's the whole hydra or just your half would be greatly appreciated, but noted all the same. >>>

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:31 am
by Slandaar
In post 1273, Slandaar wrote:Town:
Bacde
AK
ArcAngel
Nero
CTD
Om/HD

Very Very Likely town:
B&tB
Eddie
Ryu
Syry


Probably town
Sean
Baby Spice
Desperado
Mac (thez)


If I had to guess I guess town:
KK


Still Deciding:
DLG
Oversoul


One to Watch:

Hanzo


Scum to varying degrees:
Nacho/Thor/Fuzzy/Ceph/Bulba
Updated with everyone included I think. Bolded are people who moved or I added in.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:17 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 1623, Kublai Khan wrote:Your case on Nachomamma8 is decent. Maybe even lynch worthy. But if he's scum, then where is the scum-led counter-wagon on Oversoul, who has been far scummier?

Either Nachomamma8 is scum with Oversoul, or scum are pushing along the Nachomamma8 wagon to try to get Oversoul to live another day.
Exactly my point Khan, If Nach is really the scum., There should have been some kind of attempt of a counter wagon, its like nothing..Everyone body including scum wants to lynch Nacho, we all know how these kind of lynches going to flip..... so, Still says No NACHO!!!

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:21 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 1627, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:oh god why do arc, kublai, ctd, AK and cephir all look like scum on this page

also why is everyone letting thor skate. like omg
Good point.. I haven't thought about Thor....
In post 1632, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:kublai's new nickname is "kubbles"
this must be majiffy :P
In post 1633, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Ryu is a weaker Ping, I would much rather have Cephrir over Ryu and I still have a scum read on Nacho.

V/LA until tuesday


~Mara
what about other reads mara? there plenty others who could be good lynch candidates today..
and also i would like to hear what is your case to read Nacho as scum.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:23 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 1628, Bacde wrote:or maybe scum are bussing nacho right now?
Or VICE VERSA...

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:30 am
by Slandaar
Ryu wagon was a counter wagon of sorts.

Its a fallacy to suggest such things anyways; if no scum are leaders there won't be any scumled counter wagons because its not in the scums nature to do so, so, they will be waiting for leaders (town) to lead the wagons and to follow them along.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:39 am
by ArcAngel9
Last time i check.. Ryu wagon has 3 votes including me.. I hardly call it as a wagon...
And 3 votes is good start for scum to sheep... that didn't happen... like i said.. Either scum has really put on breaks on day 1 or Nacho is not scum.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:27 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 1509, Desperado wrote:So why is it ok for you to call out Baby Spice's townreads for being weak, but when I call out DLG's townreads for being weak, he's still scumhunting and I'm scummy for it?
I thought that DLG was at least pretending to scumhunt. I think Baby Spice is pretending to scumhunt.
Why is this a question? If I say that your specific accusation in regards to player A is bad, that doesn't mean that the specific accusation is a bad one.
In post 1509, Desperado wrote:Did you see anything worth commenting on? It was more of the same from my point of view, which I think was pretty clearly expressed in what I said.
I didn't, but I probably would if I just made a case on him.
In post 1509, Desperado wrote:If his case on DLG was good enough to prove to you that he was doing other things and coming up with scumreads, and it was very similar to mine, why is he a townread and me a scumread?
It wasn't his case on DLG alone. He's pushed DLG in a way that's better than the way you pushed it. Reads are much more than one case. Stop asking these questions because they are scummy as hell.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:32 am
by Slandaar
In post 1639, ArcAngel9 wrote:Last time i check.. Ryu wagon has 3 votes including me.. I hardly call it as a wagon...
And 3 votes is good start for scum to sheep... that didn't happen... like i said.. Either scum has really put on breaks on day 1 or Nacho is not scum.
In post 975, mastin2 wrote:
Red Ryu - 6 (Oversoul, Thor665, Baby Spice, Mac, Bulbazak, Syryana)

Nachomamma8 - 5 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Nero Cain, Amethyst Kitty, BeautyAndTheBeast)
Well it did happen as we can see above; note Nacho wagon existed first. Then the wagon died a bit as noone pushed it.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:44 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 1510, Cephrir wrote:I feel like Nacho and Desperado are both stretching for some of their points. So far this doesn't feel as town v town to me as our other arguments have.
People are stretching in their arguments, so you don't look at what they are posting but instead just say that the argument is "town v town"? You can do better than this.
In post 1516, Bacde wrote:Nacho isn't playing to "out his reads" or "find scum" this game, he's manipulating people (and he can do it with one word even as shown w/ the pride post)
Talking back =/= manipulation. If it's not pride, then why would you want to be lynched the next day? You obviously wouldn't. You're using rhetoric.
In post 1516, Bacde wrote:If he wants me to follow his reads, why isn't he pushing them harder? If he wants me to follow his reads, why does he keep saying to me "No you have a point I haven't been playing as well as I'd like this game"
When I'm not pushing reads, they are not fully developed. Hence me saying that you have a point.
In post 1518, Cephrir wrote:Obviously I feel like Nacho or Desperado is scum (probably not bussing), and I haven't figured out which one it is yet. What led me to say that now is 1509- the first point seems pretty good and makes me feel like Nacho is using a double standard, but the third point sucks and is a huge reach.
Very nice posture.
In post 1529, CrashTextDummie wrote:I think I may actually be coming around on Nacho. His insistence on voting Desperado is terrible. Desperado has rightfully pointed out that parts of his case are factually incorrect and what's left is awfully weak. It's hard for me to swallow that this is Nacho's strongest read to the point where he's unwilling to compromise on a secondary suspect.
It surprises me that you take so much issue with me voting Desperado above DLG. I'm sorting Desperado out because I don't think he's DLG's scumbuddy and he is the stronger read. It doesn't mean that I'm unwilling to compromise; that's a misrep. Why do you take so much issue with it?
In post 1572, Oversoul wrote:So Ryu is being a punk and being owned by real life so I am just going to post it..
Why didn't you post this earlier? Or mention that you were waiting on Ryu? Or do anything in the meantime?
In post 1575, Oversoul wrote:I wanted to vote Nacho when you said, especially after Slandaar posted his reasoning for Nacho scum, but I wanted to see if Ryu would continue down his path of "why are you voting me" since he hasn't even really played the game since then

VOTE: Nacho
Oh look, another scum joins my wagon.
In post 1589, Slandaar wrote:If I am lynched I am putting you in my scumlist, you owe me that.
Bzzt. If I am lynched, you better follow the shit out of my scumlist and not AtE, you owe me that much.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:55 am
by Nachomamma8
All while I've been getting wagoned to hell, what has Desperado been doing? Responding to my case on him, not really pushing anything else. His activity is literally linked to mine; he waits for me to post, then he responds. Even the way he's been defending recently is scummy as fuck... all he's doing is trying to get the case on himself to go away by comparing parts of my case to other people. There are tiny little potshots everywhere else, nothing significant. I also like him so casually dismissing DLG's quadpost. He said that he didn't find anything interesting, but he could've easily followed up on the reads that DLG gave in those posts (which included him in his scum list), but instead he said nothing.

Slandaar is also chilling on my wagon scummy as fuck, potshot here, potshot there, empty reads list.

I'm thinking DLG is town because Desp is scummy as fuck and he just sort of lurked out in a really quiet way. He needs replacement like a motherfucker though and I find it sort of suspicious that CTD forgot to check up on his top suspect for over a week?

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:31 am
by Oversoul
In post 1642, Nachomamma8 wrote:Oh look, another scum joins my wagon.
No, a townie who really hasn't put as much effort as he should into the game

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:34 am
by Nachomamma8
What do you think of Desperado?

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:34 am
by Cephrir
In post 1642, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1510, Cephrir wrote:I feel like Nacho and Desperado are both stretching for some of their points. So far this doesn't feel as town v town to me as our other arguments have.
People are stretching in their arguments, so you don't look at what they are posting but instead just say that the argument is "town v town"? You can do better than this.
I was saying it's *not* town v town. Pay attention.
In post 1642, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1518, Cephrir wrote:Obviously I feel like Nacho or Desperado is scum (probably not bussing), and I haven't figured out which one it is yet. What led me to say that now is 1509- the first point seems pretty good and makes me feel like Nacho is using a double standard, but the third point sucks and is a huge reach.
Very nice posture.
Very nice posture yourself, seeing as you haven't really expressed suspicion of me before this post and I look like the most likely counterwagon to yours at this point.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:35 am
by Nachomamma8
Why aren't you putting that much effort into this game specifically?

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:36 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 1646, Cephrir wrote:I was saying it's *not* town v town. Pay attention.
Fix my typo and there's still a question for you to answer.
In post 1646, Cephrir wrote:Very nice posture yourself, seeing as you haven't really expressed suspicion of me before this post and I look like the most likely counterwagon to yours at this point.
I'm not going to vote you today, but your most recent posts are waffley as all hell.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:36 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 1646, Cephrir wrote:I was saying it's *not* town v town. Pay attention.
Fix my typo and there's still a statement to explain*, whatever. I want a response.