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In post 1667, Aegor wrote:

If the latter - why did he replace out, since his posting activity seemed in line with his strategy?

Because RL commitments prevented any participation whatsoever (in-thread, in-QT, etc.), or any other number of possible reasons.

At this stage I'd be willing to vote almost anyone just to get a wagon to four votes or something. I don't understand why no one is willing to coordinate on this.

I think Jake is town - HKC's vote looks pure bad.
I think HKC is scum - I like my vote here.
I could get behind a Kdub wagon pretty easily.
Mac and Aegor are about the same for me mentally.
BRO should probably get his vote in play unless he's planning to vote another person with no votes on them.

@Kdub - what's the Aegor case again? How do you feel about the Mac wagon?

@HKC - what's the Jake case outside of you not seeming to like him personally? Was that just a bus on SMP? It didnt look very bus-like.

@Mac - what's the Kdub case again? How do you feel about the HKC wagon?

@Muffin - stop being tunnel useless and vte someone with any chance of being lynched please?

@BRO -

I really think muffin is the right lynch. The part I keep coming back to is if SMP was blocked, why would he gamble calling muffin a VT knowing he could be wrong and that is enough reasonable doubt to say we have to lynch muffin.

You can't really get anything based off interactions because SMP only mentioned scar 3 times day 1 and scar never mentioned smp. The only other thing nagging at me is smp never mentioned the ??? votes moving around until the ??? vote ended up on Scar and then he pointed it out. It's all gut so obviously it's nothing concrete but that reaction reads like confused/nervous scum.



I will be ok with lynches of Mac or HKC also but I urge people to trust me this one time since I single handedly handed you the smp lynch.

In post 1678, Aegor wrote:VOTE: Jake

boo

Jake, why, after all this time, would you bring up muffin again? Why could it not be WIFOM?

I am only ansewring you because I have a good answer but I alread said it once and I am saying it again. for the remainder of the game I am not responding to anything you or muffin say to me or ask me.

This is why we lynch muffin first, especially since nothing in his or his predecessor's play has any redeaming qualities. Scar was almost lynched d1 for a reason and that wagon was almost all town lead. Muffin has done jack shit to help this game along and doesn't get a free ride.


http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p4990349 - No Kill (doc saved us)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4990564 - we vote scum
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4991430 - scum claims they stopped the NK
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p4996947 - through some awesome logic by myself and rainbow dash we lynch HP first

we all thought NO WAY would scum claim he blocked his partner so we went on a town lynching spree

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p5012521 - Townie lynched
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5020928 - Townie lynched
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p5028885 - Townie lynched
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p5039273 - Scum lynched - Town won

so instead of wasting time going through process of elimination you eliminate suspect number 1 first to know for a fact if it was wifom or not. Almost every townie is going to react the same way we did in that game, it's proven because people are acting the same way this game. People think somehow smp's scum flip cleared muffin. It doesn't.

and that's why we should lynch muffin today

[quote="In post 1665, Jake from State ]
4. I discredit people? Even if that was true so what? I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to find scum and everyone is a suspect
[/quote]

This (along with the other content in this post) is a scum claim. Town has absolutely reason to discredit people, while scum have all the reason in the world to do so. He can't even deny the discredit comment because he knows it's true

Squirrel, why are you talking to figure out our reason behind Jake if you think we are scum?

And no, it isn't just the smp bus, it's his play all fucking game

Squirrel, why are you talking to figure out our reason behind Jake if you think we are scum?

And no, it isn't just the smp bus, it's his play all fucking game

1. I did actually deny it, you should learn to read better
2. I do discredit people who I think are scum because I think they are scum and deserve to be discredited. I do that as both alignments actually so


3. can you please type under the right hydra

p.edit - Thanks mod

In post 1682, magenta_thegreat wrote:[quote="In post 1665, Jake from State ]
4. I discredit people? Even if that was true so what? I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to find scum and everyone is a suspect

This (along with the other content in this post) is a scum claim. Town has absolutely reason to discredit people, while scum have all the reason in the world to do so. He can't even deny the discredit comment because he knows it's true[/quote]

In post 1683, magenta_thegreat wrote:Squirrel, why are you talking to figure out our reason behind Jake if you think we are scum?

And no, it isn't just the smp bus, it's his play all fucking game

In post 1684, magenta_thegreat wrote:Squirrel, why are you talking to figure out our reason behind Jake if you think we are scum?

And no, it isn't just the smp bus, it's his play all fucking game

whooooopppsssss

obv, me

I kind of want to replace out of this game unless Jake is lynched today.

In post 1687, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 1684, magenta_thegreat wrote:Squirrel, why are you talking to figure out our reason behind Jake if you think we are scum?

whooooopppsssss

obv, me

Because I think you are scum and the case is unfounded and forcing you to state the reasoning out loud will help showcase that.

In post 1677, Jake from State Farm wrote:

vote: muffin

.

Boo!

In post 1678, Aegor wrote:VOTE: Jake

Double Boo!

Sure just ignore everything I posted

I didn't ignore it. I read it and decided it wasn't worthwhile to equate to a Muffin vote for me. Yeah, maybe he called out a scum mate, sure. But your premise is based on the conclusion "he would know he was RBed and would therefore only feel confident calling out a scum buddy"

What I think you're overlooking is the following "he knew he was RBed...and chose to claim that he wasn't"

So, in a negative way we could decide DMP was crazypants and would do nothing sensible.
In a positive way he was fishing for the RBer who targeted him - and maybe hoped to fish for Muffin's role as well.

I get your point, I will even agree it has some validity. but I don't think it's as slam-dunky as you'd like me to think. Could we stay on the creampuff please?

I'll also even toss out that since he claimed his role honestly (sans the 'I'mma scum' part) I actually lean towards him claiming his target honestly also. Take that with however much salt you need, but that's my take.

Do whatever you want. I've tried to win this game and people obviously don't want to

In post 310, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:hi guys
jakes annoyance at us seems to make us think he knows we r town

In post 322, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:
I have a more than marginal preference over Jake, but that'll prolly never happen unless I take hold of this hydra (and that is defintely not gonna happen). His post is like the highlight of post saying one thing, yet tone inferring something that is completly opposite of what is being said which is the scummiest kind of dissonance in the UNIVERSE and has a high ratio of actually being scum... like 99.99% chance

In post 328, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:Making shit up?

no

but now you're just outright discrediting something solid

In post 370, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote: while jake is calling us scum, his story to why we are scum continually changes and still gives a contradictory message to what is actually going on...

In post 378, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:actually, the second could be an addition to the first accusation, though the policy lynch thing and the summary given don't match up with your arguments against us at all

In post 461, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 437, Jake from State Farm wrote:But they aren't laying out a thought process and in fact they are outright refusing to do so.

If they want to actually outline their reasons for shit, I'm find with that but that's not what they have done.

Berts been pretty transparent in this field, and he hasnt been shy of sharing what ive told him outside this thread

In post 496, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:appeal to fear when you only had two votes on you?

In post 527, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:jake's panicky "omgerz im a PR" claim looks fake as hell

In post 589, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 544, Kdub wrote:Jake seems like legitimately frustrated town here. I could see noob-scum panic claiming with just a few votes on them, but Jake isn't a noob.

except, I don't think he's panic claiming... not really, and even if he was even the most experienced are prone to such a thing. I still think he's trying to get people scared of lynching him.

In post 598, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 594, Jake from State Farm wrote:

In post 589, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 544, Kdub wrote:Jake seems like legitimately frustrated town here. I could see noob-scum panic claiming with just a few votes on them, but Jake isn't a noob.

except, I don't think he's panic claiming... not really, and even if he was even the most experienced are prone to such a thing. I still think he's trying to get people scared of lynching him.

Fun fact I hate playing mafia but I'm pretty good at it and I would never, NEVER panic claim as scum. Even when the deck is stacked against me I don't give up.

As town I don't care as much cause i know we still out number mafia but when I'm mafia I don't trust my teammates to handle the game cause I'm conceited like that.

So you want to sit there and honestly think you got me to panic claim as scum with 2 fucking votes you are delusional. But do everyone on this site a favor. Cut the fucking trolling out if you are town.

well, I guess we are of kin there, I guess (though, whether or not I trust my scummates is dependent on my thoughts of their skills) though I did say I din't think you were panic claiming

and, believe it or not, this head isn't trolling and is playing seriously regardless of not knowing of this game existence to begin with

besides, if you were town, you wouldn't even be upset with us in the first place because, in your mind we are playing to our win-con

In post 599, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:I've stated that I think you're fear mongering

In post 600, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:appealing to fear

using scare tactics

trying to make people scared of you

I do not think that you, yourself is scared. I think you are trying to scare other people.

In post 601, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:I've stated that at least twice, and you are twisting it into me saying I think you are scared when I'm not, why?

In post 644, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 605, Jake from State Farm wrote:

In post 600, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:appealing to fear

using scare tactics

trying to make people scared of you

I do not think that you, yourself is scared. I think you are trying to scare other people.

I'm not doing that though. You are misinterpreting my actions. I'm actually telling people to lynch me.

@kdub - I didn't start changing my play style for this game. I started a while ago and have at least 2 completed games with it. It's more of a " go with the flow" playstyle. That kinda went out the window though when people started making up lies about me and calling things scummy that aren't scummy. Plus I got baited by hk's trolling.

oh, so you do know other phrases outside YOU'RE LYING.... that's good to know

In post 737, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:You, in the heat of the converstation, and you outside of it are two completely different things, you are completely ignoring any attempt I've done to actually try and sort you AND you are trying to hide the fact that you're omgusing which, I guess make sense since you think that OMGUS is a scum trait when it fucking ist'


Pedit: you just said two town, and one scum

In post 745, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:and you can't even call me fucking scum even when I'm intoxicatred, and thus have my ability to do stuff, stunted

In post 752, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 606, Jake from State Farm wrote:Correction hk. If you are town you aren't playing towards your win con. If you are scum you totally are

and I am going back to

you shouldn't even be mad at us in the first place, since we are doing what we are supposed to be doing in your mind.... considering how strongly you "Scumread" us

In post 310, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote: VOTE: aegor

jakes annoyance at us seems to make us think he knows we r town

aegor is pinging us with his/her vote switching

In post 322, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:
I have a more than marginal preference over Jake, but that'll prolly never happen unless I take hold of this hydra (and that is defintely not gonna happen). His post is like the highlight of post saying one thing, yet tone inferring something that is completly opposite of what is being said which is the scummiest kind of dissonance in the UNIVERSE and has a high ratio of actually being scum... like 99.99% chance

In post 328, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:Making shit up?

no

but now you're just outright discrediting something solid

In post 370, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 364, HighShroomish wrote:

In post 360, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 357, HighShroomish wrote:

Jake from State Farm wrote:Of course not. Do me a favor. If you are up to it. Read The Fall mafia and tell me causing chaos in the thread isn't a valuable strategy. Not only did I survive end game, I managed to get a town pr lynched and discredited.

Smart players know how to manipulate their environment.

Yes, chaos IS good. For scum. Decidedly not good for town.

In post 319, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:Scar's town as fuck, yo

and if we were scum, we did what we did to purposefully muddy waters and make this game godimpossible to read, not to be written off as town/useless... I mean, who thinks that?

Im not getting it. What's your point.

Chaos is good for scum.

as scum, we are purposefully causing chaos to make the game-state optimal for us. not to be read off as town/useless

"good scum" also know how to manipulate their environment Ironically enough the "good scum" of this hydra isn't even actively doing so and there is in thread proof that she's told her hydra partner to stop doing so

while jake is calling us scum, his story to why we are scum continually changes and still gives a contradictory message to what is actually going on...

In post 378, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:actually, the second could be an addition to the first accusation, though the policy lynch thing and the summary given don't match up with your arguments against us at all

In post 461, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 437, Jake from State Farm wrote:But they aren't laying out a thought process and in fact they are outright refusing to do so.

If they want to actually outline their reasons for shit, I'm find with that but that's not what they have done.

Berts been pretty transparent in this field, and he hasnt been shy of sharing what ive told him outside this thread

In post 496, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:appeal to fear when you only had two votes on you?

In post 527, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:jake's panicky "omgerz im a PR" claim looks fake as hell

In post 589, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 544, Kdub wrote:Jake seems like legitimately frustrated town here. I could see noob-scum panic claiming with just a few votes on them, but Jake isn't a noob.

except, I don't think he's panic claiming... not really, and even if he was even the most experienced are prone to such a thing. I still think he's trying to get people scared of lynching him.

In post 598, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 594, Jake from State Farm wrote:

In post 589, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 544, Kdub wrote:Jake seems like legitimately frustrated town here. I could see noob-scum panic claiming with just a few votes on them, but Jake isn't a noob.

except, I don't think he's panic claiming... not really, and even if he was even the most experienced are prone to such a thing. I still think he's trying to get people scared of lynching him.

Fun fact I hate playing mafia but I'm pretty good at it and I would never, NEVER panic claim as scum. Even when the deck is stacked against me I don't give up.

As town I don't care as much cause i know we still out number mafia but when I'm mafia I don't trust my teammates to handle the game cause I'm conceited like that.

So you want to sit there and honestly think you got me to panic claim as scum with 2 fucking votes you are delusional. But do everyone on this site a favor. Cut the fucking trolling out if you are town.

well, I guess we are of kin there, I guess (though, whether or not I trust my scummates is dependent on my thoughts of their skills) though I did say I din't think you were panic claiming

and, believe it or not, this head isn't trolling and is playing seriously regardless of not knowing of this game existence to begin with

besides, if you were town, you wouldn't even be upset with us in the first place because, in your mind we are playing to our win-con

In post 599, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:I've stated that I think you're fear mongering

In post 600, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:appealing to fear

using scare tactics

trying to make people scared of you

I do not think that you, yourself is scared. I think you are trying to scare other people.

In post 601, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:I've stated that at least twice, and you are twisting it into me saying I think you are scared when I'm not, why?

In post 644, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 605, Jake from State Farm wrote:

In post 600, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:appealing to fear

using scare tactics

trying to make people scared of you

I do not think that you, yourself is scared. I think you are trying to scare other people.

I'm not doing that though. You are misinterpreting my actions. I'm actually telling people to lynch me.

@kdub - I didn't start changing my play style for this game. I started a while ago and have at least 2 completed games with it. It's more of a " go with the flow" playstyle. That kinda went out the window though when people started making up lies about me and calling things scummy that aren't scummy. Plus I got baited by hk's trolling.

oh, so you do know other phrases outside YOU'RE LYING.... that's good to know

In post 737, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:You, in the heat of the converstation, and you outside of it are two completely different things, you are completely ignoring any attempt I've done to actually try and sort you AND you are trying to hide the fact that you're omgusing which, I guess make sense since you think that OMGUS is a scum trait when it fucking ist'


Pedit: you just said two town, and one scum

In post 745, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:and you can't even call me fucking scum even when I'm intoxicatred, and thus have my ability to do stuff, stunted

In post 752, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 606, Jake from State Farm wrote:Correction hk. If you are town you aren't playing towards your win con. If you are scum you totally are

and I am going back to

you shouldn't even be mad at us in the first place, since we are doing what we are supposed to be doing in your mind.... considering how strongly you "Scumread" us

In post 1380, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:because there is no way town-you would be alive at this point in time, no way town-you would have been alive yesterday over Dan and all the "stuff" you have done isn't any better than what I have done, and I at the very least tried to get people sorted while you just sat there calling everybody scum. You wasn't even the main pusher on the SMP wagon, Ffery was which is pretty weird considering you "knew" SMP was scum. You back down on your push on me several times during D1, especially when it has been proven that I would be fuck-hard to get lynched, and started leading it against my "scum-buddy" instead

In post 1381, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:Oh, and when there was even the slightest resistance on the SMP wagon, you took that as as opportunity to create some noise.

In post 1383, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:and, holy shit, the bussing for town-cred thing is pretty ingenious especially since you seem to be egocentric enough to believe you can carry an entire game on your own, as scum

In post 1426, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 1385, Jake from State Farm wrote:

In post 1380, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:because there is no way town-you would be alive at this point in time, no way town-you would have been alive yesterday over Dan and all the "stuff" you have done isn't any better than what I have done, and I at the very least tried to get people sorted while you just sat there calling everybody scum. You wasn't even the main pusher on the SMP wagon, Ffery was which is pretty weird considering you "knew" SMP was scum. You back down on your push on me several times during D1, especially when it has been proven that I would be fuck-hard to get lynched, and started leading it against my "scum-buddy" instead

I'm a self watcher , I'm no threat to mafia

and by this logic, through play if I was scum it would make total sense for me to just kill you because you're a PR anyway. If I am mafia, you would be a threat to me by play so...

In post 1662, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote: you? all you have done is discredit people left and right, and have not yet made an actual case against anybody while I have made several cases over, and over D1 and D2. If I was scum, I would be pretty intent to just tunnel fuck all my way through D1, not take a break and consider other scumoption outside of you all just to try and appease ffery/cho.

asking us to replace out is pretty funny, because it seems like you are trying to get rid of the people who is the biggest threat to you, a threat you can't really kill because it would just point to you. Yeah, we're pretty apathetic, I have been since gamestart, but so is every other person in this game for the most part.

lets start with existing cases first, then

and while I'm at it, I could also very easily quote out why we should be town by play, alone and how jakes claim that we are being survivalistic is false

though, I admittedly don't remember the circumstances that led to my conclusion in 1381

VOTE: Mac

Everyone voting someone with 1 vote should move, now.

(also notice that the focus isn't even the SMP bus, that you think I'm using as the main fuel against jake) yeah, it's a reason for why I think he's scum, but it's more on how upset he is over not getting the "credit he deserves" re that.

Pedit: jake can still get lynched