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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:52 am
by VP Baltar
In post 1672, Noraa wrote:Gamma doesnt go that well with haschel imo....
how so? I haven't seen anything in rereading that makes them not fit.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:52 am
by Noraa
you said my logic was bad on that tho so im not sure if repeating it helps

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:53 am
by Noraa
I thought they had no interaction so they probably weren't scum together

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:53 am
by VP Baltar
In post 1674, duppin wrote:
In post 1670, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 876, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 874, VP Baltar wrote:Ok, so let's entertain this for a minute. Who is your best guess at the full scum team reck?
great question. i'd probably wager 2 of the unrevealeds and then one of the claimed roles just based on probability. the extra manipulator role has to be something unclaimed since everything else is at least ACTION confirmed, but not alignment confirmed

so 2 of {gamma, skies, duppin, noraa} and 1 of {ut, ythan, haschel}

out of those, gun to my head, dont think it's gamma or ut.

This might be the revealing post we needed. Put yourself in Reck's shoes here. I forced him to tell me his scum team after he got caught lying. What are the odds he puts both of his buddies in the same grouping in this post? I would think low, particularly in the bracket where he says there are 2 scum.

If true, that means Haschel is definitely scum here. My only hang up with that vote is I don't trust duppin to sort noraa and gamma tomorrow in an open minded way.
VP don't forget my role
Hmm, true.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:53 am
by Noraa
I still feel like the level of interaction is concerning. I mean I hear ur argument and it makes sense but idk I still feel like the partner equity isnt insanely there

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:54 am
by duppin
In post 1676, Noraa wrote:you said my logic was bad on that tho so im not sure if repeating it helps
i assume this was in response to me, but the logic i was talking about was regarding associations.

i would just like to know what it is that made you think i was more likely to be town over haschel at one point

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:54 am
by Noraa
In post 1680, duppin wrote:
In post 1676, Noraa wrote:you said my logic was bad on that tho so im not sure if repeating it helps
i assume this was in response to me, but the logic i was talking about was regarding associations.

i would just like to know what it is that made you think i was more likely to be town over haschel at one point
it was to vp

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:55 am
by Noraa
In post 1678, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1674, duppin wrote:
In post 1670, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 876, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 874, VP Baltar wrote:Ok, so let's entertain this for a minute. Who is your best guess at the full scum team reck?
great question. i'd probably wager 2 of the unrevealeds and then one of the claimed roles just based on probability. the extra manipulator role has to be something unclaimed since everything else is at least ACTION confirmed, but not alignment confirmed

so 2 of {gamma, skies, duppin, noraa} and 1 of {ut, ythan, haschel}

out of those, gun to my head, dont think it's gamma or ut.

This might be the revealing post we needed. Put yourself in Reck's shoes here. I forced him to tell me his scum team after he got caught lying. What are the odds he puts both of his buddies in the same grouping in this post? I would think low, particularly in the bracket where he says there are 2 scum.

If true, that means Haschel is definitely scum here. My only hang up with that vote is I don't trust duppin to sort noraa and gamma tomorrow in an open minded way.
VP don't forget my role
Hmm, true.
no his role does nothing tomorrow.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:56 am
by VP Baltar
In post 1682, Noraa wrote:
In post 1678, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1674, duppin wrote:
In post 1670, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 876, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 874, VP Baltar wrote:Ok, so let's entertain this for a minute. Who is your best guess at the full scum team reck?
great question. i'd probably wager 2 of the unrevealeds and then one of the claimed roles just based on probability. the extra manipulator role has to be something unclaimed since everything else is at least ACTION confirmed, but not alignment confirmed

so 2 of {gamma, skies, duppin, noraa} and 1 of {ut, ythan, haschel}

out of those, gun to my head, dont think it's gamma or ut.

This might be the revealing post we needed. Put yourself in Reck's shoes here. I forced him to tell me his scum team after he got caught lying. What are the odds he puts both of his buddies in the same grouping in this post? I would think low, particularly in the bracket where he says there are 2 scum.

If true, that means Haschel is definitely scum here. My only hang up with that vote is I don't trust duppin to sort noraa and gamma tomorrow in an open minded way.
VP don't forget my role
Hmm, true.
no his role does nothing tomorrow.
I understand what he means. I won't be explaining it though.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:56 am
by Noraa
If we lim haschel today and haschel flips red, tmrw I predict there will be a no kill. Gamma isnt going to kill someone bc no matter who duppin checks, he'll be able to tell who did the kill.
If gamma kills and duppin sees I had no action, he'll know its gamma. If gamma kills and duppin checks gamma, he'll obviously know.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:57 am
by Noraa
no roles help anyone rn

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:58 am
by Noraa
duppin using his role to convince everyone to solve him first is just not cool and the logic is flawed anyways.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:58 am
by duppin
noraa you do realise that if they do not kill anyone we can lim both you and gamma right

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:59 am
by Noraa
Ik im being a stubborn ass. But duppins also being a stubborn ass(I dont mean this offensively btw) :P and he's using my exact same logic.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:00 am
by Noraa
In post 1687, duppin wrote:noraa you do realise that if they do not kill anyone we can lim both you and gamma right
Gammas not gonna kill unless he's stupid but also what?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:01 am
by duppin
In post 1689, Noraa wrote:
In post 1687, duppin wrote:noraa you do realise that if they do not kill anyone we can lim both you and gamma right
Gammas not gonna kill unless he's stupid but also what?
if we lim haschel and scum does not kill then town wins because that means we get 2 lims

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:01 am
by VP Baltar
In post 938, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 932, Noraa wrote:I'm willing to flip to prove these thoughts came from a town mindset.
You're willing to be yeeted and put town in YLO (assuming you are town) to save reck....uh?
lol, this is a funny ass post to reread

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:03 am
by VP Baltar
Anyway.

VOTE: vote: Haschel

I've read enough.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:03 am
by VP Baltar
SO MUCH VOTING

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:04 am
by Noraa
VP you believe in duppin town more than noraa town?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:04 am
by VP Baltar
In post 1694, Noraa wrote:VP you believe in duppin town more than noraa town?
I believe you are both town and this is the optimal play.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:04 am
by Noraa
why?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:04 am
by VP Baltar
just hammer Haschel. Trust me.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:05 am
by Noraa
U sure about this?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:05 am
by VP Baltar
In post 1698, Noraa wrote:U sure about this?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. You can blame me in endgame if needed.