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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:48 am
by MathBlade
Noraa isn’t in this game unless in a hydra? Alt?

Can you clarify?

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:49 am
by MathBlade
Nevermind I can’t read derp

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:28 am
by tris
In post 1280, Flea The Magician wrote:CAUSE I'M IN YO HEEEAAAAAAAD, IN YO HEEE--E-AAAA-AAAAD ZAAAAHHHHHMMMBEEEEEH.
pfffffff hahaha.

sorry i'm finishing my read of flea, and thought this was funny. i haven't read anything from today yet. carry on. i will be with you soon

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:48 am
by Almost50
In post 1667, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1663, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1658, MathBlade wrote:I am using it to sort you
You don't need to. You're either Town and should take it on faith that I am, or you're scum and
know
that I'm Town. My theory assumes you're Town (actually it doesn't. It
leads to the conclusion
that you are, based on other assumptions). Do you disagree?? :lol:
Incorrect methods can get correct results.

I obviously do not disagree with the conclusion that I am town I just wanna make sure I am not starting with flawed assumptions.
Now you're definitely arguing for the sake of arguing. :lol:

Seriously, what's wrong with
getting correct results
regardless of how solid/flawed the method is?? Isn't your goal supposed to be WIN THE GAME??

Let me reiterate: Let's say that my method is full of BS, but I got damn too lucky and caught the scum team by mere chance. Would you say no that because "the method was flawed"???

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:56 am
by Almost50
In post 1668, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1666, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1662, MathBlade wrote:Correct. It’s more your theory is one that’s really unfalsifiable and I hate those.
We could elim everyone off group to see if you’re right but I don’t think that’s smart strategically.
Having a foundation that’s an unfalsifiable assumption is bad.
On contrary, it only takes ONE bad result to prove it wrong. You should support my elimination pool until we get a green flip in it. If one flips green THEN I'm proven wrong.

In other words; you do get a scum flip or prove me wrong TODAY. It's not THAT bad if you look at the other options.
Uhm I don’t see how?

We would need 2+ scum in treestumps or none to invalidate your claim of 1 scum in three stumps.
Can you try again in a different way?
ELIMINATE IN MY PoE!! If we get a scum flip we ELIMINATE IN MY PoE AGAIN. If we get a green flip we know my theory is incorrect.

You do NOT go AGAINST a theory to prove it's wrong. You FOLLOW IT until it gives you bad results.

Like, why the hell would you even consider eliminating a SECOND player in the Treestumps pool if we do get a Scum flip from OutWorldER?? A Scum flip in OutWorldER makes it "more likely" my plan/theory works, and that dictates you do NOT eliminate in Anya/Auro/tris before we get a green flip in Vax/bugs/T3.

I sometimes really wonder how your brain works. (NOTE: THIS IS NOT AN INSULT. I said it once to someone and they got offended by it. Saying "I wonder how this works" is actually an expre3ssion of amazement and/or admiration. In this case it is obviously not admiration (as I am opposed to it), but it still expresses amazement, or even confusion if you will, but certainly not "an insult")

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:10 am
by tris
assorted questions for flea:


why did you shift from scumreading anya to treating her as just pure chaos?

how did bugspray climb out of the scumbin since ?

i want a response to

i'm also curious about how your read on me has progressed since which was a very weak reason to townread me. you even asked vfp about me later on, but didn't give any of your own reasons. speaking of which, i don't understand why you asked vfp about me. you said, “considering we've had the townFlow flip“, but i don't understand the connection there.

i'm not seeing how you came to a outworlder scumread in

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hrrm. i'm going to let my thoughts percolate for a bit on flea. in the meantime i should catch up with today. also there's possibility of more flea posts soo

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:15 am
by tris
In post 1623, mozamis wrote:
In post 1512, Xtoxm wrote:auro is lockscum

could be why Xtotm died. Fits.
i think xtoxm was a good kill regardless

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:17 am
by Gypyx
so uh hey, tired af but i'll try to re-read tommorow morning.

today's blocks look neat in terms of reparition ngl

a50, you setup spec looks based on too many moving parts to be reliable imo, you're building conclusions on conclusions on conclusions, i think the problem is pretty obvious right?

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:18 am
by tris
In post 1625, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1582, Xtoxm wrote:<3 mastina

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I think if anything this here.

I think this locks Mastina as a mason imho.

Makes sense with the jail keeper that flipped d1.

Not sure why Mastina mason isn’t dead though assuming she is town.
huh?? how does a post by a vt imply that mastina is mason?

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:25 am
by tris
this theory by almost is insane

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:27 am
by tris
In post 1653, MathBlade wrote:This means either Mozamis is scum or there is scum in the town block because nothing else really happened.
what town block lol

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:44 am
by tris
In post 590, Almost50 wrote:Btw, IF there's a Vig; please don't shoot me. Let Scum strive and struggle for this one. It'd be most beneficial to town if I do live to -say- D3. ;)

Image

Not a crumb. Definitely not a crumb.
it is now d3. anything you want to share?

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:47 am
by bugspray
In post 1650, T3 wrote:My theory was that all prs are mailmen.
we literally have a flipped simple doctor

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:47 am
by Almost50
In post 1682, Gypyx wrote:so uh hey, tired af but i'll try to re-read tommorow morning.

today's blocks look neat in terms of reparition ngl

a50, you setup spec looks based on too many moving parts to be reliable imo, you're building conclusions on conclusions on conclusions, i think the problem is pretty obvious right?
TEST .. IT! Just eliminate -say- Vax (the least contributing player alive. Hell. Mathblade already made as many posts as Vax, and he only joined the game today)

Also, ISO Vax and try to come up with a Town!case for him @ANYONE.

Hell, the guys says this on Monday:
In post 1009, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 915, Anya wrote:Vax looks like bored wolf
As opposed to "not having enough time to catch up on a busy weekend" town?
Then proceeds to post even less on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday

VOTE: Vaxkiller

Revenge of the Vax
It is
Revenge of the Vax
Come on
Revenge of the Vax
Oh, my god
You know that I'll be back
Here I am

Revenge of the Vax
Once again
Revenge of the Vax
Top of the world
Revenge of the Vax
Watch my flow
You know that I'll be back
Here I go

So, I'm back up in the game
(Running things like my swing)
Lettin' all the people know
That I'm back to run the show
Cause what they didn't know was wrong
And all the nasty things you've done
So, baby, listen carefully
While I sing my comeback song

He lied to us
Cause he said he'd post a bit some more
He lied to us
But he actually never did
He lied to us
All these posts he said he'll contribute
He lied to us
Wasn't true, wasn't true true true

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:49 am
by tris
@math: the reason t3 said "My theory was that all prs are mailmen." was because yesterday, he said he had a setup spec reason to believe that vfp's claim of simple doctor was wrong. he obviously doesn't believe in that theory anymore

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:50 am
by tris
@bugspray too, i guess

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:51 am
by bugspray
almost50 i think your theory is pretty solid but can you put it all together in one big post? it's hard to follow in multuple posts over three pages
if we can communicate the idea better we can proibabyl convince mathblade

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:52 am
by bugspray
oh was vs is

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:53 am
by MathBlade
In post 1683, tris wrote:
In post 1625, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1582, Xtoxm wrote:<3 mastina

Image
I think if anything this here.

I think this locks Mastina as a mason imho.

Makes sense with the jail keeper that flipped d1.

Not sure why Mastina mason isn’t dead though assuming she is town.
huh?? how does a post by a vt imply that mastina is mason?
One theory I have is that xtomx believed Mastina was a mason and trying to draw the NK with that post which Xtomx seemed to do. The other is that Xtom was killed for his reads.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:55 am
by MathBlade
In post 1689, tris wrote:@math: the reason t3 said "My theory was that all prs are mailmen." was because yesterday, he said he had a setup spec reason to believe that vfp's claim of simple doctor was wrong. he obviously doesn't believe in that theory anymore
I am gonna sit back a bit.

Can someone consolidate claims?

Anya mailmen
Mastina mason

It’s just so much easier when I don’t have to hunt for everything.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:56 am
by Almost50
In post 1684, tris wrote:this theory by almost is insane
Which makes it even more likely to be correct. :lol:

You see, when I try "sane" stuff I go down all the wrong ways. When I sound insane I somehow hit the bull's eye.

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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:57 am
by Almost50
In post 1686, tris wrote:
In post 590, Almost50 wrote:Btw, IF there's a Vig; please don't shoot me. Let Scum strive and struggle for this one. It'd be most beneficial to town if I do live to -say- D3. ;)

Image

Not a crumb. Definitely not a crumb.
it is now d3. anything you want to share?
I did. I gave you a full solve already.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:58 am
by MathBlade
I kinda wanna see Tsu Mastina and Anya post,

I think there’s potential for 1v1s
And I want to give A50 another shot at his theory.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:58 am
by tris
xtoxm was clearly town in my eyes at least, and had a lot of potential to do good for town. that's why i think they were killed

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:59 am
by tris
In post 1694, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1689, tris wrote:@math: the reason t3 said "My theory was that all prs are mailmen." was because yesterday, he said he had a setup spec reason to believe that vfp's claim of simple doctor was wrong. he obviously doesn't believe in that theory anymore
I am gonna sit back a bit.

Can someone consolidate claims?

Anya mailmen
Mastina mason

It’s just so much easier when I don’t have to hunt for everything.
anya was only an implied claim. and with anya, it's hard to know if that was serious.
mastina claimed mason right at the start. who knows if that's serious