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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:39 pm
by Dwlee99
That's not how it works I thought

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:40 pm
by Gamma Emerald
There’s 1 way it’s possible

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:40 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1, schadd_ wrote:all actions emerge from potions, and players may use one each night by default. whenever a player takes an action, they lose the potion that allowed them to take the action (though the potion may be received by another player).
Okay I didn't hallucinate. One per night

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:41 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1, schadd_ wrote:a player is unable to use more than one Pain potion each night.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:43 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Oh
I thought a DM potion could make that possible

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:06 pm
by KittyTacky
Compromise wagons tend to be town, guys. I said it.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:32 pm
by Roden
That's actually my point though Dwlee. If HEM is town and is sure that I'm scum and sees that he doesn't have the votes to get me Day 1, why didn't he get someone to throw Pain potions at me with him? He made it clear multiple times that he wanted to organize how everyone used potions, but when given the chance to kill his top scum read by doing so, he does nothing. Not even a follow up today, just a blank vote.

Optimally, he should've had people use two Pain potions and see if I lived. If I did, then he would 100% know that I was scum and that I had my partners protect me. Scum wouldn't protect me if I'm town either since it wouldn't be worth it, all that would do is waste potions they need to use to protect themselves, and they need all the extra mis-kills on town that they can get.

Because of that, I don't think it's possible for HEM to be town and use a Pain potion on me. If that were true and we were TvT, the scum team would know that using a Pain potion on me would kill me and would've done so. If I'm scum and he's town, then he made an abysmal play by warning me that he was going to try to kill me. My partners would just protect me with a Doctor potion or block him with the Jail potion.

The only thing that makes sense is that he's scum and faked his potion threats, since it's better for scum!HEM to use a Day phase to try to mis-elim me and save his Pain potions for people he can't mis-elim.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 11:12 pm
by Flea The Magician
Wasn't a compromise, it was one I genuinely believed in. Not even sorry on that one. I need to put some time aside for this game which is likely to be tomorrow so I can reassess stuff.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 11:33 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1670, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1661, Venus and Mars wrote:I jk’d NM last night
Why though
Isn’t it obvious? I thought if he had a pain potion, he’d use it on us.

~M

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 11:35 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1672, Roden wrote:
In post 1664, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1660, Roden wrote:HEM I thought you were going to kill me with Pain potions

What happened
@HEM did you claim this? @Roden can you link/quote the post, I’m too damned lazy.
In post 1297, humaneatingmonkey wrote:roden, you're scum. you're getting my potions tonight.
So what happened @HEM?

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 11:46 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1682, Flea The Magician wrote:Wasn't a compromise, it was one I genuinely believed in. Not even sorry on that one. I need to put some time aside for this game which is likely to be tomorrow so I can reassess stuff.
Well, what did we gain from his flip? I don’t see how we learned anything. All we know was his alignment and what potions he had.

His posting read townie but when I looked at his other games, he had done a helluva a lot more. At any rate, I still think Kitty’s town, so I think we likely would have gotten a miselim either way.

Anyway, what I learned from FB flip is to trust my instincts and they haven’t changed on Kitty.

I think there’s probably one scum in HEM/Roden and beyond that, I’m clueless.

Rn, lean HEM based off what Roden said about the pain potions.

~M

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:43 am
by humaneatingmonkey
i dont feel well, and i'll be more present tomorrow. you all can wait, day just began.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:44 am
by humaneatingmonkey
i used my potion of harmography to see if anyone targetted venus and mars. there was none.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:44 am
by humaneatingmonkey
i dont think i have pain potions because i asked the mod what potions i had and he only gave me that potion of harmography. so sorry i can't flip roden. let's just do that today.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:15 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 1686, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i dont feel well, and i'll be more present tomorrow. you all can wait, day just began.
Of course, feel free to take as much time as you need. Rl always comes before any game.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:21 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 1687, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i used my potion of harmography to see if anyone targetted venus and mars. there was none.
:o Wow really? So I totally wasted my jk potion on NM then:/

Well I guess that’s good news then.

This game is really frustrating. At first I thought it was due to NM and his crazy deathtunel on me but now it’s whomever scum is in this game, they’re doing a pretty bang up job of fooling me, which totally sucks.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:37 am
by Venus and Mars
potion of Pain: at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night. a player is unable to use more than one Pain potion each night.

ingredients: green crud, grey witherments, tonine, broken magics, mute blue crud
So, if scum can use multiple pain potions and actually kill a player in a single night and we jk’d NM and according to HEM no one targeted us, so what are the odds here that scum no killed?

If pretty much none, it would mean that NM was either the target or scum unless we weren’t the only one who used jk last night. If anyone used harmography on NM, that would be extremely helpful.

If no one else claimed jk on any one than it would mean that NM was either the target or scum right?

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:59 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1690, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1687, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i used my potion of harmography to see if anyone targetted venus and mars. there was none.
:o Wow really? So I totally wasted my jk potion on NM then:/

Well I guess that’s good news then.

This game is really frustrating. At first I thought it was due to NM and his crazy deathtunel on me but now it’s whomever scum is in this game, they’re doing a pretty bang up job of fooling me, which totally sucks.
Not true. If NM tried to pain you then the jailkeep blocked it so it didn't show up to the harmography

Also, scum are likely "going wide" with their potions by spreading them out so they can kill multiple at once, but it slightly depends on how many pains they have

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:21 am
by Gamma Emerald
does JK potion also prevent pain potions on the JK target from showing?

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:11 am
by Save The Dragons
if we're just claiming

i JK'd kitty last night

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:55 am
by humaneatingmonkey
i implore people to start reconsidering their townread on Roden. what has he done that is so hard to fake? their whole beef with me is super fake imo.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:04 am
by Roden
In post 1688, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i dont think i have pain potions because i asked the mod what potions i had and he only gave me that potion of harmography. so sorry i can't flip roden. let's just do that today.
Cool lies.
In post 1695, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i implore people to start reconsidering their townread on Roden. what has he done that is so hard to fake? their whole beef with me is super fake imo.
Your only case against me is that I scum read you.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:07 am
by Gamma Emerald
I used a pain potion last night

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:15 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 1692, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1690, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1687, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i used my potion of harmography to see if anyone targetted venus and mars. there was none.
:o Wow really? So I totally wasted my jk potion on NM then:/

Well I guess that’s good news then.

This game is really frustrating. At first I thought it was due to NM and his crazy deathtunel on me but now it’s whomever scum is in this game, they’re doing a pretty bang up job of fooling me, which totally sucks.
Not true. If NM tried to pain you then the jailkeep blocked it so it didn't show up to the harmography

Also, scum are likely "going wide" with their potions by spreading them out so they can kill multiple at once, but it slightly depends on how many pains they have
Oh you’re absolutely right. If HEM used harmography on me and I jk’d NM, it definitely wouldn’t show up. So all HEM has actually proven then is that no one other than NM visited me last night, correct?

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:17 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 1694, Save The Dragons wrote:if we're just claiming

i JK'd kitty last night
Maybe we should all mass claim which potions we used last night and on whom.