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As I am not only Town but a PR, I hope that people will not lynch me. That said, I cannot control the actions of others, and it is entirely possible that some will disbelieve me.
Additionally, as I am Town, I hope that we can instead lynch Scum.

The point of the entire post is that I will likely not be alive tomorrow.

What precisely looked like a scumslip about that to you?

EBWOTP: All @ GIF, of course.

'cause I see no reason why claimed PR should be worried about getting lynched if he/she's real PR.

In post 1701, Ineffective wrote:Tl;dr

There is no way im changing my mind no matter what you claim and i hope everyone else feels the same way

I think posts like this are more than likely to concern any town member.

Sticking with my vote for GiF for now, constantly nitpicking posts and not following up with anything substantial.

@GIF: I'm one of those people who encourages ignoring claims on strong scumreads in other setups/games. Granted I'm not in favour of it in the Newbie arena, but yeah, potentially being impaled on my own sword, not so fun.

@Mac: YES HIS POSTS GODDAMNED WELL SHOULD

I don't know, I like GIF's current train of thought on me. I think he's played pretty Town so far despite his drop-off in much of toDay, and I'm definitely reading him there.

In post 1715, goodmorning wrote:Interesting.

I thouht you said earlier this is your word that is strictly used for taking notes with your ISO using ctrl f and isnt used to show any form of pointing a finger but rather that you find it genuinely interesting and need to look at it later? i believe this was a defensive reaction to someone accusing you of making a subtle push that couldnt easily be traced to you by using the word interesting?

How does a single. Post with nothing but the word interesting help you take notes?

note to self: 175 is interesting

In post 1719, goodmorning wrote:Final thoughts on this game:
The Scum are Ineffective and Z. Z is continuing to drip scumtells. Ineffective has Townread him not for anything Town that he's done, but because ff has a Townread on him. This is an easy way around addressing all the reasons why your scumpartner is Scum. Logic tells are for Dethys, this is not one. Besides that, it's not even that logical - Townies are not infallible.

this seems like a bad way to get out of a lynch considering that i lead the wagon and z intends to hammer - then again some people fall for the. "i fos you even i my dying breath" bit - it is an indirect form of ate that almost pulls at me and compels me to pity you

I like how you accused town of making a terrible showing --- and yet if you are town have entirely awful reads

If she's town and if those are her scum picks then it doesn't matter where on the wagon you and Z are, she should state them. It's consistent with where her reads have been since late day 1.

I kinda don't want to believe but her claim (#1708) was genuine. She tends to get little fired up like that time to time. Something I don't like but seems consistent enough for me to trust that post. But on the other hand then she makes posts like this (#1719). Not going to lynch for now but could hammer her later.

I'am going to wait till tomorrow to hear more about Mac if he keeps his promise (#1718). In the mean time I will dig ISO on couple of other players that I have been slightly ignoring lately just to double check that my reads are right.

But shit... MAC's. "tomorrow will be lylo" commment really makes a man wonder.

could be an intentionally inserted "i dont have information as to my partners scum status"

could be a towny " i dont view him as scum therefore i have never considered the possibility that tomorrow may not be lylo"

could be a slip from a scum knowing town is being lynched....

The comment was made while I (as in MYSELF) was at L-1 and had an intent to hammer on me. Context, people

In post 1731, Ineffective wrote:How does a single. Post with nothing but the word interesting help you take notes?

Reminds me to look back after a flip.
For your other concerns, I refer you to fferyllt, who has answered them exactly as I would have, except perhaps more politely.
I would add that as you claim to have ISO'd me, Town!you should have realized that those have indeed been my reads since long before the wagon. Yet another scumtell.

In post 1734, Z7-852 wrote:Not going to lynch for now but could hammer her later.

Scummy.

In post 1734, Z7-852 wrote:I kinda don't want to believe

goodmorning

but her claim (#1708) was genuine. She tends to get little fired up like that time to time. Something I don't like but seems consistent enough for me to trust that post. But on the other hand then she makes posts like this (#1719). Not going to lynch for now but could hammer her later.

I'am going to wait till tomorrow to hear more about Mac if he keeps his promise (#1718). In the mean time I will dig ISO on couple of other players that I have been slightly ignoring lately just to double check that my reads are right.

problem i have with. GM being "fired up" is that i have never seen a genuine looking "fired up" post... The. Placement of caps seems to be on points she is trying to make and not on emotionally indicative areas... any attempts at showing anger have beeen seemingly head based and i see no gut responses "town has made a pitiful showing" type of remarks are emotionally removed in apprearance. I DO NOT SEE GOODMORNING BEING FIRed up but rather trying to say the right things to avert a lynch

OK Mac..... I SaW IT QUOTED ON THE OTHER PaGE aND SaW GMs comment and thought it had merit - my bad - another pitiful attempt at GM spreading seeds of doubt

In post 1737, goodmorning wrote:

In post 1731, Ineffective wrote:How does a single. Post with nothing but the word interesting help you take notes?

Reminds me to look back after a flip.
For your other concerns, I refer you to fferyllt, who has answered them exactly as I would have, except perhaps more politely.
I would add that as you claim to have ISO'd me, Town!you should have realized that those have indeed been my reads since long before the wagon. Yet another scumtell.

In post 1734, Z7-852 wrote:Not going to lynch for now but could hammer her later.

Scummy.

i never claimed that you changed your fosses

In fact "even in my dying breath" would explicitly indicate that the fosses were there before - where do you come up with this stuff? This is the kinda shit that made me confident in you flipping scum

and yes ffers post has mmerit- asuming you were town you wouldnt change your fosses most likely --- that doesnt mean you are town---- it caused me paused and made me pity you --- but your phrasing did change from " i fos so and so to". "these two people are scum together" which is a big difference in tone and substanciance

Guys really quick --- has gm made a push that you find to be with good reason? Or cast doubt on anything that was significantly scummy? Or has every post of his pointing fingers at other payers been based on actions that have no actual merit?

In post 1743, Ineffective wrote:Guys really quick --- has gm made a push that you find to be with good reason? Or cast doubt on anything that was significantly scummy? Or has every post of his pointing fingers at other payers been based on actions that have no actual merit?

This is incredibly moronic considering most pushes are by nature something of a matter of opinion.

Also agreement is not indicative of alignment.

Sure- opinion pays a big part--- but when you see someone pushing. On ridiculous things in your opinion, and others agree, it would seem that majority opinion says that your pushes are bad, and thus opinion is not in your favor --- hence the question to confirm that ffer and I arnt the only ones who noticed your pushes are consistantly bad

also dont call me a moron - thats my move---moron

Inb4 he says "i didnt call you a moron i merely siad your actions are moronic...

Like a moron

In post 1744, goodmorning wrote:

In post 1743, Ineffective wrote:Guys really quick --- has gm made a push that you find to be with good reason? Or cast doubt on anything that was significantly scummy? Or has every post of his pointing fingers at other payers been based on actions that have no actual merit?

This is incredibly moronic considering most pushes are by nature something of a matter of opinion.

This rebuttal is pretty bad.

- "with good reason"
- "cast doubt on"[something] scummy"
- "based on actions that have no actual merit"

Opinions have basis, and "with good reason" is a pretty critical basis. The other questions evaluate basis too.

In post 1746, Ineffective wrote:Sure- opinion pays a big part--- but when you see someone pushing. On ridiculous things in your opinion, and others agree, it would seem that majority opinion says that your pushes are bad, and thus opinion is not in your favor

Argumentum ad populum. Yet more fallacious arguments from the scummy corner.

In post 1748, fferyllt wrote: - "with good reason"
- "cast doubt on"[something] scummy"
- "based on actions that have no actual merit"

Opinions have basis, and "with good reason" is a pretty critical basis. The other questions evaluate basis too.

Well, take me for instance. I am a much more gut-heavy player than you. You might disagree that some accusation of mine based heavily on gut and meta had basis.
We may even differ in opinion on what's scummy - I recall that you felt someone's backing down was scummy, and I disagreed, though I may not be remembering correctly.

Basis is subjective at best is my point.