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Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:16 pm**

In post 113, Lost wrote:i like nona

hi nona what do you think about billy

could use some more analysis. i like his questions though, and his approach to joqiza on post 65 was nice.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:27 pm**

let's see

joqiza is townie. the way he's playing and how he's tried to help push the game out of rvs feels townie to me. (117)

i also like lost's read on joqiza.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:27 pm**

Nona, you awake to find yourself strapped to a chair, suspended above a pit of BOILING LAVA. A masked man is laughing evilly at a control panel and DEMANDS that you name at least one scum in this game or else he sends you to your doom. Obviously you can't know for certain. You have to make an educated guess. You have one chance, WHO DO YOU SAY?

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:34 pm**

In post 177, joqiza wrote:Nona, you awake to find yourself strapped to a chair, suspended above a pit of BOILING LAVA. A masked man is laughing evilly at a control panel and DEMANDS that you name at least one scum in this game or else he sends you to your doom. Obviously you can't know for certain. You have to make an educated guess. You have one chance, WHO DO YOU SAY?

penguin. though that seems a bit weak considering he hasn't posted in about a day.

maybe also almost50. the way he wants to sit back and sheep an absent penguin is interesting.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:38 pm**

Thank you!

I don't really scumread penguin tbh. I don't feel that he's done anything suspicious. Anything you noticed in particular?

Did you read my case on Almost/Penguin? Do you agree?

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:53 pm**

watching Nona leave thread after her obligatory three posts of the day

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:39 pm**

@mod: unanticipated vla. Back Tuesday.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:02 pm**

In post 179, joqiza wrote:Thank you!

I don't really scumread penguin tbh. I don't feel that he's done anything suspicious. Anything you noticed in particular?

Did you read my case on Almost/Penguin? Do you agree?

penguin i sus over what i think is a lack of content despite having over two dozen posts. the only concrete stuff i had on him was his read on you.

regarding your case i agree that it might be unlikely they are a team. i don't think scum would interact with his partner this way.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:03 pm**

In post 180, joqiza wrote:watching Nona leave thread after her obligatory three posts of the day

Spoiler:

lol

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:40 pm**

Official Vote Count

Almost50

(2): joqiza, Lost

Nona

(2): Billy Pilgrim, Almost50

Lost

(2): Dongempire, PenguinPower

Not Voting

(1): Nona

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-10-09 09:00:00)

PenguinPower is V/LA

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:49 pm**

In post 173, joqiza wrote:

Spoiler: A
The scumteam is not: PenguinPower/DongEmpire

This is the one I feel best about. Why?

Take a close look at 77, 78, and 79; in particular, the mod edits. What exactly happened here? PenguinPower got a pagetop, Dong followed up by making a (probably joking) post about it in which he calls PenguinPower a no-no word. What's interesting is that the mod not only intercedes to censor the word, but issues a word of caution to
stop arguing about it, that getting pagetop is stupid, and if you really want to argue about it do it in a civil manner.
I find it somewhat unlikely that a mod, with perfect information, would interpret and intercede in such a way if PenguinPower/Dong were the exact scumteam (as he would understand, intuitively, that they are theatering).

Beyond just the pure angleshoot, 85 is a sort of direct and biting shade which is unlikely to come from one partner to another.

As of right now, my gun-to-head "gut" read on these two is TvT, but I'll stay wary.

Oh, god, sirius
Well at least it helps us.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:56 pm**

I'll play later today. I've read up mostly

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:12 am**

My read on Nona has developed to "unconfident scum" (THEY are unconfident, not my read on them). They are trying to avoid the thread as much as they can and their reads seems to follow consensus with not much originality/genuineness.

So, I now have Lost as a top TR, followed by PP then BP. I have Nona at the bottom of my read list and I have no "personal" read on Dong/Jog (this means I'd still sheep PP in these two, although I might now also consider Lost's reads)

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:00 am**

I find it hard to believe you don't have any kind of read on me.

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:33 am**

A50 going after the low hanging fruit does give me concern.

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:36 am**

In post 167, Donempire wrote:Reads are a strong word. I do have a townlean on billy however. I think their posting is down to earth while not being fluffish. I can say the same for joq, but for different reasons. I like posts like 117 and 126. Its also a slight townlean there.
As for the rest, if i had to lynch right now i'd go with almost or penguin.
That leaves me, you and nona. I have no thoughts on nona. I dont think i have enough info to make a lean on you.

can you link some billy posts that your townlean on him is based on?

also maybe explain more about why almost and penguin

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:41 am**

In post 175, Nona wrote:
In post 113, Lost wrote:i like nona

hi nona what do you think about billy
could use some more analysis. i like his questions though, and his approach to joqiza on post 65 was nice.

could you do that analysis now and then come up with something more concrete?

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:43 am**

In post 179, joqiza wrote:Did you read my case on Almost/Penguin? Do you agree?

this isn't addressed to me, but i read all of them and none of them feel particularly well substantiated. or more specifically, none of them are substantiated enough for me to want to use them to educate my current reads. too many reaches with too little evidence, and most importantly, they're all associative tells before any flips, which makes them even less useful.

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:53 am**

In post 187, Almost50 wrote:My read on Nona has developed to "unconfident scum" (THEY are unconfident, not my read on them). They are trying to avoid the thread as much as they can and their reads seems to follow consensus with not much originality/genuineness.

nona has like a couple of completed games and is still holding a townie post title

i don't think her posting activity very alignment indicative

am conflicted about the second half of the read. where do you think her reads look disingenuous?

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:55 am**

would like more involvement from nona and penguin

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:58 am**

In post 188, joqiza wrote:I find it hard to believe you don't have any kind of read on me.

I actually didn't read much, as I don't want to spoil the fun (of reading the whole day in one go). I was antagonized by Lost's response to my 1st post so that's where I started to push. His reaction didn't strike me as one that could come from Scum (at least not from 95% of the players) so I decided to move on. I picked the first name on the list and ISO'd Nona, and I decided that was a good place to investigate, so I voted there. The response does comply with the "Guide for inexperienced Scum". So -in short- I haven't even read any your posts, aside from this one I'm responding to.

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:58 am**

In post 189, Billy Pilgrim wrote:A50 going after the low hanging fruit does give me concern.

Ask me if I care.

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:18 am**

In post 193, Lost wrote:am conflicted about the second half of the read. where do you think her reads look disingenuous?

In post 101, Nona wrote: i got town vibes from joqiza and pp's interaction earlier.

This is both a fence-sit and going with the flow. At least 3 people had stated a TR on joq by this time, and at least one stated a TR on PP

In post 102, Nona wrote:do you mean that an outside observer could not get as much info from the conversation despite that they can read every word of it as well?

In post 108, Nona wrote:oh i see. you mean unless lost has the same thoughts as penguin's regarding joqiza's thoughts early on he shouldn't have the same read.

These two posts accomplish nothing. The first is a question and the second is a reiteration of the answer Nona got for that question. Now what do we get from that? What does NONA get from it?? NOTHING.

In post 175, Nona wrote:
In post 113, Lost wrote:i like nona

hi nona what do you think about billy
could use some more analysis. i like his questions though, and his approach to joqiza on post 65 was nice.

Non-committal. (Hint: If Nona is Scum Pilgrim could very well be their partner)

P.S. Yes, I know I said I kind of TR Pilgrim, but that's an independent read and ignoring associatives because we didn't flip Nona yet.

In post 182, Nona wrote:penguin i sus over what i think is a lack of content despite having over two dozen posts. the only concrete stuff i had on him was his read on you.

regarding your case i agree that it might be unlikely they are a team. i don't think scum would interact with his partner this way.

A couple of people questioned the TRs on PP, so the read conveniently changed here. Also agrees to whatever joq had said (A50+PP isn't a valid team).

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:57 am**

i dont have the energy to deal with that monkey at the moment.

maybe later.

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:59 am**

In post 191, Lost wrote:
In post 175, Nona wrote:
In post 113, Lost wrote:i like nona

hi nona what do you think about billy
could use some more analysis. i like his questions though, and his approach to joqiza on post 65 was nice.
could you do that analysis now and then come up with something more concrete?

sorry i meant id like to hear more reads/analysis from billy before i think on his alignment

because all ive seen so far is questions and interactions with others which is nai

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