In post 475, Firebringer wrote: In post 474, Menalque wrote:bargain: neighbourizer
Pine, if this hasn’t happened yet (as technically chicka hasn’t met their side of the bargain) can I get in on it instead?
why do you want it?
Not sure I like this. Seems to be freight training a certain course of events.
In post 477, Menalque wrote:Because I don’t like chickadee asking for fruit immediately (I think twice because iirc it was her entrance too?), I don’t like how good the bargain pine’s giving her is, neighbouriser is like my favourite power theoretically and yet I never fucking get it
Also,
VOTE: xof
Not totally sure I agree with LLD about the not engaging with pine thing but I thought the logic made sense from town because I’d been wondering about the same thing myself
I think this is a town post but I don't like the agreeing with LLD and callling her town because I honestly think that wall was scummy. Also why would ignoring Pine be scummy? Didn't someone else say to put flipped scum on ignore?
In post 482, Alisae wrote: In post 481, Menalque wrote: In post 479, Ankamius wrote:that might be the single most disgusting couple of posts I've seen in a while
Are you referring to me?
In post 480, Alisae wrote:idunno how obvious I need to make it to establish that voting xolelf is not cool
Do you actually think that xof is town or you’re just looking forward to playing with them?
Xof
is
town
Is there an explainable logic to this? I have xof at no read rn but iirc xof only has one or two posts so I haven't really combed that hard for a read there.
In post 486, popsofctown wrote: In post 85, Firebringer wrote:I edited these to post in here:
The fruit are- 7 of them
Watermelon - This fruit makes the user bulletproof for a night but also makes it so they take one less vote to lynch (they aren't informed of this)
Red Apple - This fruit allows a player to use a one shot tracker at night. The downside is that scum will know who you visited. (aren't informed of this)
Banana - This fruit gives user double voting power when eaten. It also tells scum what role they are when eaten. (arent informed of this)
Grapes - This fruit is the informed mechanic. It basically informs the player to what roles aren't present in the game. Pine doesn't want this released to give them freedom in fake claiming
Black Apple - This fruit allows a player to give it to another and kill that player. Pine will probably use this for someone he knows will misfire.
Lime - Tastes bad. Fruit gives you ability to multitask.
This post is a townslip for Firebringer.
Both town Firebringer and scum Firebringer would create this list in an effort to look scummy. That is the way Firebringer plays mafia or something. I don't know.
But only townFirebringer would produce this list, because scumFirebringer would have consulted the scum PT. Would he have faked them or listed them totally inaccurately? I don't know. There is really no telling. His thought processes are literally made of magma.
But whether the list was genuine or fake, they'd be produced conscious of what was in the scum PT. He'd either make all of their flavor correct, or make none of the flavor correct. That's not my assumption based on me expecting scum!Firebringer to go through dramatic machinations to fool us, just what I think would be more cognitively convenient.
But this list is partially aligned with the likely images in the scum PT rather than fully disjoint or fully aligned. Yoshi's Story images would have been the easiest to obtain (we have one already), and it includes a Red Apple, Banana, Watermelon, and Grapes. I checked more carefully for Black Apple, but there's no Black Apples or Limes out there in any of the source games.
Particularly clinching is that Firebringer used the terms "Banana" and "Grapes". The sprite for bananas in Yoshi's Story depicts a bunch of three bananas, rather than just one. And "Grapes" shows he was not just blindly singularizing all of the items. He would have been more likely to say "Bananas"
At the end of the list, he has run out of creativity and used "apple" again, choosing a recolor. It's doubtful Jingle had to resort to any recolors, which would only be applicable for some of the berries in Paper Mario, so recolored fruit wouldn't be on his mind after looking in the PT. It's also doubtful that -even if- Firebringer decided "I'm going to make a list of seven fruits but I'll make some up and some will be real", that he would run out of ideas and need to resort to a recolor. He would have a five fruit head start because at least five of these were really visible in the PT. It is much more difficult if I give you seven minutes to name seven Presidents than it is if I give you seven minutes to name seven Presidents other than Abraham Lincoln, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Thomas Jefferson, and Rutherford B. Hayes.
This is probably my strongest townread in the game right now, I have a couple others. Firebringer has also been behaving protown in a couple other ways.
This is Insane Troll Logic but I think it's sound logic.
In post 490, Pink Ball wrote:Am I obvtown enough to start building our mighty townbloc?
The whole scumteam is not posting while you guys scumread each other's asses, noobs.
Only exception is Gamma.
CHENNISDEN WHY AREN'T YOU PUSHING ME DADDY
Wait so are you SR me for the gut town read on you? Also you SRing me probably makes you town because you seem to not have a handle on reading me rn if our last two games are an indication.
In post 496, Ankamius wrote:I'd be shocked if the scumteam was mostly in the least active players
Absolutely this. If I wanted to pick a scumteam, would I make it a bunch of Purples? No, you want real Game Changers.
(can you tell I'm on a Survivor kick)
STOP
THIS
PLEASE
NOW
In post 522, Alisae wrote:- If a player is old and came out of retirement to play, or is new and their play is still developing, they most likely were randed town
- If Pine doesn't have the meta knowledge or personal experience with a player, they are most likely town
- If Pine does not work well with them they are most likely town
From there, Pine has a smaller list of people that he can work with to try and assemble his dream team.
OK this is deffo wine. first off why does the first point exist? Pine joined in 2011, and came back in like 2016/2017, and afaict hasn't been inactive since. So why does not having played in a long time matter? I also see Pine as someone who'd be willing to take aleap of faith on a newer player, so the other half of that makes no sense. Also why is personal experience relevant, I think Pine is more than capable of doing research, plus I feel like if there was no personal experience they wouldn't be here. Only sensible point is the last one. I wouldn't want to clash with someone I'm trying to work with, that sounds like an unenjoyable experience. I think I recall a team with RC and Mathblade blowing up because they couldn't handle each other.
In post 527, Aristophanes wrote: In post 347, Alisae wrote: In post 260, Aristophanes wrote:I am so confused on the idea lmm pace for this game. So far It has felt pretty ideal tbh. 25 pages a day is a lot, even with a large playerlist.
25 pages means 1 page per player no?
yeah but are we expected to make 25 posts a day? That's a fucktonne!
lol to the whole Ari chain of posts
In post 547, Ankamius wrote: In post 544, chennisden wrote:if you're town i expect you to understand this conversation is unproductive and won't actually help you read me/vice versa.
if you're scum i expect you to understand that trying to mental gymnast your way into a scumread of me won't work.
how exactly am I supposed to take you sidestepping my question then?
I don't understand this interaction
good choice
In post 563, Dannflor wrote:the worst and jjh are both scummy but the worst is a not-as-good wagon because he's 1. V/LA and 2. I know he has a good enough town game that it's worth not lynching him D1 regardless
also jjh im sad you did not debate me
bad bad bad
I think I've correctly read Gamma like... 5? times in a row now? probably actually statistically meaningless but regardless I'm gonna need you to explain your read there
Interesting, which games are your sample size? I haven't formed any opinions on your ability to read me at all so I want to see. I remember we played like a couple normals, and also MD rerun.
OOOOh, what did he tell you?
In post 568, mastina wrote:Skygazer
MariaR
Gamma Emerald
Firebringer
Chickadee
chennisden
Iconeum
Dannflor
PenguinPower
Formerfish
Menalque
Pink Ball
Lady Lambdadelta
Untrod Tripod
Katsuki
xofelf
GreyICE
the worst
Krazy
popsofctown
DrippingGoofball
Ankamius
jjh
Aristophanes
Talk about Maria, Ari, GreyICE, and PB pls
Alright, I'm willing to hear you out on why Mastina is scum.
(I hope you're town so this image actually works out)
In post 576, the worst wrote:I knew signing up for this game was a good idea..
VOTE: mastina think I agree with you GreyICE
Why do you agree with GI?
OH
disregard all my mason talk lol
I feel like your reads are rather surface level. They seem genuine though here, so that kinda recolors my view of the posting I found scummy before.
In post 593, Iconeum wrote:Dann get's an early townread from me because he questions the same thing I saw with Chennis's posts regarding opportunism
Honestly I have Dann as town because I think he has a certain solviness here that he lacks as scum
Though I think I've only seen one Dann scumgame.
In post 594, Iconeum wrote: In post 344, Chickadee wrote:I don't really have a counterargument. I just want fruit. I know I'm town and that's good enough for me. I'm not here to be liked. I'm here to drown in a huge game, and god damn if I'm gonna drown and be miserable, I'm gonna eat fruit.
I don't dislike the plan of Ali suggesting fruit bargainers, but there's nothing to say Pine has to go for anyone Ali suggests. And Ali doesn't have all the answers anyway.
Chikadee's townread is more feel then the other ones. This post in particular feels very 'free flowing'. Not caring. No agenda. 'I'm not here to be liked'.
This is town doing it's own goddamn thing and the others can suck it if they don't like it. It reads like town to me I don't think I can put it any other way.
In post 596, Alisae wrote:If scum are going to make up a reason to want fruit
They do what Chickadee is doing
Ali has a point and I agree with her side here, but idk if that invalidates the read.
In post 623, Ankamius wrote:I'm just as irked about you townreading me as I am Firebringer ftr duckling
If I townread you will you have a problem
I honestly think tw's townreads aren't bad, though Chick and GI are probably the weakest options.
wallpost songs
