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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:25 am
by Not_Mafia
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:07 am
by Kop
Not necessarily calling Enchant scum, I'm just not agreeing with BBT's views with his progression, and where his vote is.
In post 1766, Somnus wrote: In post 1758, Kop wrote:
If you're believing that the chances of them both being town as high, why would you vote for one of them? Why aren't you putting the case forward for them being town, and actually voting for the person who YOU believe is to be scum, and put the case forward?
I know if I was in you're shoes, if I believed the chances of someone being town, I wouldn't be voting them to get them eliminated, even at this late stage of the day. I'd be trying to build cases on who I believed to be scum and trying to get them eliminated.
In post 1601, Enchant wrote:Who know. Maybe i just won game by collecting all mafia on my wagon.
I think the chances of all the scum team being on your wagon, is very very low, but not out of the question.
In post 1606, Not_Mafia wrote:
I'd say quite low
And Jake's lecturing is a lot easier to fake as scum than Enchant's frustration is
Frustration can also be faked as scum.
In post 1614, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: In post 1606, Not_Mafia wrote:
I'd say quite low
And Jake's lecturing is a lot easier to fake as scum than Enchant's frustration is
Disagree that both can't be town but agree that Jake seems more likely to be scum.
If Frog's attack on the hydra at start of D2 was from scum, I'm impressed.
VOTE: Jake
E-1 I think?
You said the chances were high for both being town, but now it's changed. What made you change your mind?
In post 1675, Enchant wrote:I think he (and others) probably caught in trap where possible elims are you or me.
We should yolowagon someone else as well. Why not.
Within the time frame that we have, I don't think we could get another wagon going, with everyone agreeing with it.
Assuming there's no extension (and I don't know how much good it would do at this point), gun to your head right now, out of the two big wagons, where would your vote go?
My mind is inclining to go with Jake, tbh.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:42 am
by Enchant
You not agree with me voting Jake?
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:28 pm
by Kop
I didn't say that, I was talking about BBT.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:31 pm
by Kop
I was talking about the fact that BBT said that you and Jake had a high chance of flipping town, but yet has his vote there, and his natural progression that Jake is the likely one to flip scum, without any explanation. It doesn't feel right, and I don't agree with it.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:33 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
What do you suppose I do, Kop?
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:51 pm
by Kop
Explain your progression. Why did you go from both being highly likely to be town, to Jake being the likeliest scum out of them two?
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:48 pm
by Bellaphant
@nancy, as far as I'm aware, Auro scum read me because of misreading a vote count - he said I was the first vote on day two when I wasnt. That's why 'vcs' are linked in my mind: does that make things clearer? Auro really hasn't explained their scum read on me elsewise.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:04 pm
by Don Draper x Mistress
In post 1782, Bellaphant wrote:@nancy, as far as I'm aware, Auro scum read me because of misreading a vote count - he said I was the first vote on day two when I wasnt. That's why 'vcs' are linked in my mind: does that make things clearer? Auro really hasn't explained their scum read on me elsewise.
I think he realized his mistake? I’ll ask him to elaborate on his read of you more.
So, now that Kop has posted some content, has your read on them changed at all?
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:11 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
Kop seems fairly decent, but still null in my mind, hasn't done anything noteworthy yet.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:17 pm
by Don Draper x Mistress
In post 1782, Bellaphant wrote:@nancy, as far as I'm aware, Auro scum read me because of misreading a vote count - he said I was the first vote on day two when I wasnt. That's why 'vcs' are linked in my mind: does that make things clearer? Auro really hasn't explained their scum read on me elsewise.
Admitting my mistake in reading the Votecounts implied an invalidation of my own scumread on you along those lines.
What pinged me harder is this line:
Do you think our mistakes (in parsing the VoteCounts / tracking the Enchant wagon) were deliberate? I'm not sure what kind of reassurance you were expecting.
I see your post clarifying that it was targeted towards a different slot. However, it still strikes me as an odd reason to cause worry/paranoia.
-Mistress
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:19 pm
by Don Draper x Mistress
In post 1744, Enchant wrote:Nah, most likely result will be "Ugh well Enchant deserves this, so anyway let's kill NM"
Have you been treated this way in other games? What makes you think that will be the most likely result? You're assuming bad faith play from town.
-Mistress
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:21 pm
by Bellaphant
Cool, why else though? I've been asking you to clarify and come chat to me.
I feel better about the kop slot
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:13 pm
by Enchant
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:28 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
In post 1781, Kop wrote:
Explain your progression. Why did you go from both being highly likely to be town, to Jake being the likeliest scum out of them two?
They can both be highly likely to be town AND have one slot more likely to be scum than the other.
It's not a mutually exclusive thing. For arguments sake, let's say I think there is a 90% chance that both flip town. I can think this but also think that there is a 1% chance Enchant flips scum and a 5% chance that Jake flips scum and therefore Jake is more likely to flip scum than Enchant.
Does that make sense?
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:41 pm
by Enchant
Idk, Me+Jake(who want to support it)+you is already half of needed wagon.
Nothing is impossible.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:42 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
For what Enchant?
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:42 pm
by Enchant
It doesh't mean that i agree (I kinda dislike Jake anyway), i just find excuse that we don't have time is bad.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:44 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
As of right now, we have 13 hours.
If a wagon sprung up and garnered enough votes in that short space of time I would probably be suspicious about it and get cold feet anyway so I'm not sure it's a great idea regardless.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:45 pm
by Enchant
But you all said so even when we had 4 days.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:56 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
You're right, I didn't realise we still had so much time back when I was voting you.
My reads wavered a bit on both slots though so I didn't feel as strongly then as I do now regarding Jake and yourself if that makes sense?
I also don't feel I have enough to push Bella or Penguin so it just feels like my hands are tied and we're in a pretty shitty position.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:14 pm
by Bellaphant
Who would you vote now @enchant @jake
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:17 pm
by Not_Mafia
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:24 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
If i had a better wagon idea i would go hard on it. But as it is, i see no reason to not want Enxhant dead.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:27 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
Norwegian, did you spend time figuring out if you were right about Enchant or not?
If so, can you concisely explain your scum read on them please?
