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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:15 am

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Sorry I don't always get my shit that I want done-done, life has been hectic X_x.
Chaos, Panic, Disorder, my work here is done.

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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:18 am

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In post 1797, Varsoon wrote:@TSO: Probably isn't a good strategy to subtly suggest you are on a scum-team with NS...
Yeah. This pinged hard. I can move my vote to TSO.

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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:53 am

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That moved quickly from NS...strange.

I'll hammer...do we want to give him a last word?
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:56 am

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In post 1801, Yates wrote:
In post 1797, Varsoon wrote:@TSO: Probably isn't a good strategy to subtly suggest you are on a scum-team with NS...
Yeah. This pinged hard. I can move my vote to TSO.

VOTE: TSO
FTR.

Your posting style has pinged hard as well. Metal Sonic played like bored scum...you play with an agenda. Could see a Yates, Rubicon, NS scum team.
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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:59 am

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In post 1799, TiphaineDeath wrote:Rubicon-Post-Thingy

#5: RVS normally not a thing, but voting scum in RVS with the "boxxy is scum" could very easily be a cheeky boxxy buddy knowing he won't be noticed because "it's RVS" and he can pass it off easily later.

#75, this-post-is-bullshit. It looks really good on the surface but check out level two folks, scum city. At this point we had no idea multi ball was a thing. And rubicon is already saying that psyche is scum for weak pressure on, wait for it, someone he thinks is scum. Scum light pressure-scum doesn't happen when people know what they're doing, it's too bloody obvious. Heavy pressure or no pressure, distancing or bussing, ignoring their very existence, yes. Light pressure is almost always bad play, rubicon should know this. This post is a very subtle scumslip, rubicon knew we were in multiball all the way back here.

#282, TIP's case was decent? LOL. I couldn't even understand a goddamn word he was saying. Rubicon trying to pass this off as me intentionally flubbing to avoid a real case is, once again, bullshit, and scummy.

#593 does not contain a psyche vote, this is odd from a town perspective. From a scum perspective it's easy because he thinks he can get me lynched easier.

#713 is the PGO claim. As someone who knows the game is multiball, this claim makes an AWFUL lot of sense for scum.

#727 "Jailkeeper doesn't seem to prove multiball"-"Let's try to keep the town in the dark as long as possible"

#777 no, actually, lets talk about how you're protecting your buddy. The temporary, but heavy, pressure on varsoon, is exactly what I would expect from experience scum players who want to put some distance between them.

Lots of PGO discussion about how I should be dead except my stupid role doesn't "target" its targets, mumble grumble.

#1260, I would not be surprised as to a rubi-vars-TSO scumteam. TSO is already pretty bad without this connection.

#1272 base covering before it actually becomes an issue, classic scum paranoia.

#1301 "look how town I am, all of you get up off your asses- I'm LEADING!" Omg, the PGO claim combined with being town leader is going to take this scum all the way to the endgame.

#1323, I wonder why rubs hasn't mentioned dante today.... Oh wait, it's because all of his scumhunting is fake.

#1469, Hammer on boxxy, I might be wrong, he might be part of that scum team instaid of with TSO vars.

#1555 "You didn't sheep me when you said you woul, must be scum" Lolno

#1591 setting up future lynches or putting off lynching a scumbuddy 4 ever?

I had it wrong it's TSO-Dante-Rubicon Vars is probably the last of the slimy girls.

VOTE: Rubicon
Nice case work. Doubt we can get here today. I'm still leery of Rubicon and Varsoon (maybe a little less) but still...both have good claims that scums could exploit.
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:05 am

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In post 1799, TiphaineDeath wrote:Rubicon-Post-Thingy

#5: RVS normally not a thing, but voting scum in RVS with the "boxxy is scum" could very easily be a cheeky boxxy buddy knowing he won't be noticed because "it's RVS" and he can pass it off easily later.

#75, this-post-is-bullshit. It looks really good on the surface but check out level two folks, scum city. At this point we had no idea multi ball was a thing. And rubicon is already saying that psyche is scum for weak pressure on, wait for it, someone he thinks is scum. Scum light pressure-scum doesn't happen when people know what they're doing, it's too bloody obvious. Heavy pressure or no pressure, distancing or bussing, ignoring their very existence, yes. Light pressure is almost always bad play, rubicon should know this. This post is a very subtle scumslip, rubicon knew we were in multiball all the way back here.

#282, TIP's case was decent? LOL. I couldn't even understand a goddamn word he was saying. Rubicon trying to pass this off as me intentionally flubbing to avoid a real case is, once again, bullshit, and scummy.

#593 does not contain a psyche vote, this is odd from a town perspective. From a scum perspective it's easy because he thinks he can get me lynched easier.

#713 is the PGO claim. As someone who knows the game is multiball, this claim makes an AWFUL lot of sense for scum.

#727 "Jailkeeper doesn't seem to prove multiball"-"Let's try to keep the town in the dark as long as possible"

#777 no, actually, lets talk about how you're protecting your buddy. The temporary, but heavy, pressure on varsoon, is exactly what I would expect from experience scum players who want to put some distance between them.

Lots of PGO discussion about how I should be dead except my stupid role doesn't "target" its targets, mumble grumble.

#1260, I would not be surprised as to a rubi-vars-TSO scumteam. TSO is already pretty bad without this connection.

#1272 base covering before it actually becomes an issue, classic scum paranoia.

#1301 "look how town I am, all of you get up off your asses- I'm LEADING!" Omg, the PGO claim combined with being town leader is going to take this scum all the way to the endgame.

#1323, I wonder why rubs hasn't mentioned dante today.... Oh wait, it's because all of his scumhunting is fake.

#1469, Hammer on boxxy, I might be wrong, he might be part of that scum team instaid of with TSO vars.

#1555 "You didn't sheep me when you said you woul, must be scum" Lolno

#1591 setting up future lynches or putting off lynching a scumbuddy 4 ever?

I had it wrong it's
TSO-Dante-Rubicon Vars
is probably the last of the slimy girls.

VOTE: Rubicon
I look at it again and wonder why you'd try to initiate another train when TSO (in your top 4 for scum) is so close to lynch.
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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:27 am

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In post 1803, Dante wrote:Your posting style has pinged hard as well. Metal Sonic played like bored scum...you play with an agenda. Could see a Yates, Rubicon, NS scum team.
Why don't you just bus your buddy and we can have this conversation tomorrow.
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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:34 am

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In post 1806, Yates wrote:
In post 1803, Dante wrote:Your posting style has pinged hard as well. Metal Sonic played like bored scum...you play with an agenda. Could see a Yates, Rubicon, NS scum team.
Why don't you just bus your buddy and we can have this conversation tomorrow.
From the pressure you put on the Doc I'd say you had more in common with TSO. Care to explain how the serves the town interest?
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:48 am

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Soo I'm going to respond point by point to TiphaineDeath, but first I have something to say to him in a separate post, where I know he'll read it:

Dude. Are you
seriously
still pushing Varsoon as scum?

I need three things from you immediately and under no circumstances will I accept you brushing me off.

- I need you to explain why Psyche wasn't killed N2.
- I need you to explain what Varsoon's scum role is that allowed him to neighborize the town doctor.
- I need you to point to something scummy in Varsoon's play.
- I need you to make a case on Varsoon, T S O and everyone else you're
actually
pushing as scum.

It's absolutely absurd that you've been pushing our basically
confirmed
town neighborizer for the
weeks
and now we're at almost-MyLo, you still haven't written a case on him (that is, outside of your insightful "Varsoons play really bugs me, I can't quite put my finger on it. Unfortunately a gut read :/") and yet you spend your time writing up a wallpost about
me
instead?

There is no part of me that believes this is your town reaction to the current game state.
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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:50 am

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and while I'm typing my point-by-point -

VOTE: Nobody Special

(if any of you are willing to vote TiphaineDeath with me, I'm down for that, but Nobody Special is pretty obviously scum so either way)

Yates, why do you want to lynch T S O now?
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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:09 am

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In post 1799, TiphaineDeath wrote:#5: RVS normally not a thing, but voting scum in RVS with the "boxxy is scum" could very easily be a cheeky boxxy buddy knowing he won't be noticed because "it's RVS" and he can pass it off easily later.
I laughed pretty hard when I noticed that, actually.
In post 1799, TiphaineDeath wrote:#75, this-post-is-bullshit. It looks really good on the surface but check out level two folks, scum city. At this point we had no idea multi ball was a thing. And rubicon is already saying that psyche is scum for weak pressure on, wait for it, someone he thinks is scum. Scum light pressure-scum doesn't happen when people know what they're doing, it's too bloody obvious. Heavy pressure or no pressure, distancing or bussing, ignoring their very existence, yes. Light pressure is almost always bad play, rubicon should know this. This post is a very subtle scumslip, rubicon knew we were in multiball all the way back here.
yeeeah I just pressure everyone who looks scummy to me. some games are multiball, some games are oneball and you gotta work out which of the scummy people is the real scum.
In post 1799, TiphaineDeath wrote:#282, TIP's case was decent? LOL. I couldn't even understand a goddamn word he was saying. Rubicon trying to pass this off as me intentionally flubbing to avoid a real case is, once again, bullshit, and scummy.

#593 does not contain a psyche vote, this is odd from a town perspective. From a scum perspective it's easy because he thinks he can get me lynched easier.
Well, no, I think that probably is what you were doing. I'd barely read TIP's case at the time, but your reaction looked identical to when I called you scum last game over an equally BS case (and was right for the wrong reasons) so I followed up on it. unfortunately I lost track of your scumminess for the next 40 pages of this thread but I'm back on track now.

As for voting Psyche, if I were going to vote anyone at that point it would have been roflcopter or Zoidberg, since that post immediately followed Zoid's claim. But I focused on figuring him out first.
In post 1799, TiphaineDeath wrote:#713 is the PGO claim. As someone who knows the game is multiball, this claim makes an AWFUL lot of sense for scum.
But also a lot of sense for someone who got a PGO role PM from Monkey!
In post 1799, TiphaineDeath wrote:#727 "Jailkeeper doesn't seem to prove multiball"-"Let's try to keep the town in the dark as long as possible"

#1272 base covering before it actually becomes an issue, classic scum paranoia.
well, it doesn't.

I'm not sure which bases you think I was covering in that post, or how you expect me to believe you read that and thought "yep classic scum paranoia right there. for sure."
In post 1799, TiphaineDeath wrote:#1469, Hammer on boxxy, I might be wrong, he might be part of that scum team instaid of with TSO vars.
Yeah TD I'm definitely scum with those two townies you're trying to mislynch. Definitely. Also I didn't hammer boxxy, although I would have of course.
In post 1799, TiphaineDeath wrote:#1555 "You didn't sheep me when you said you woul, must be scum" Lolno
Expanded on this later but unfortunately you never responded!
In post 1799, TiphaineDeath wrote:#1591 setting up future lynches or putting off lynching a scumbuddy 4 ever?
The first. Definitely the first.
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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:09 am

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In post 1799, TiphaineDeath wrote:#1301 "look how town I am, all of you get up off your asses- I'm LEADING!" Omg, the PGO claim combined with being town leader is going to take this scum all the way to the endgame.
That's the goal, my friend.

Also I have mentioned Dante, extensively and in fascinating detail, and I'm not sure how you missed that.
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:28 am

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Explain how Varsoon is scum.
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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:28 am

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Explain how Varsoon is scum.
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:30 am

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In post 1797, Varsoon wrote:@TSO: Probably isn't a good strategy to subtly suggest you are on a scum-team with NS, shoot for town-points for calling your wagon town, and then refute most points with dismissal rather than articulation.

Also, you should regularly give reads as town in any game. It lets fellow town track your trajectory. It's important and helps people read you transparently, which is a good thing for town.
Or it allows scum to know what you're thinking and keep you alive if you're not onto them. It's happened to me before.
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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:31 am

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In post 1809, Rubicon wrote: Yates, why do you want to lynch T S O now?
My NS wagon never left the station. I feel better about NS scum but the TSO wagon seems legit and obviously has far more traction.
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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:36 am

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you know I looked through Nobody Special's ISO

and I really wanted to make a strong Town case on him.

but I just can't. I'm sorry. It doesn't exist. His posting through the game gave me a "disinterested Town" vibe but his ISO is nearly the opposite of this.

I would actually understand if you guys lynched me, not because I'm scummy, but my play has been sub-par here.
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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:15 am

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In post 1575, T S O wrote:ns pls

you're town

so I don't feel like defending a player as good as you

gameface on, ja?
In post 1749, T S O wrote:poor show, NS. Alienate the one person who thinks you're Town.

Unfortunately, it actually makes you more Town.
In post 1816, T S O wrote:you know I looked through Nobody Special's ISO

and I really wanted to make a strong Town case on him.

but I just can't. I'm sorry. It doesn't exist. His posting through the game gave me a "disinterested Town" vibe but his ISO is nearly the opposite of this.

I would actually understand if you guys lynched me, not because I'm scummy, but my play has been sub-par here.
What changed?
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:17 am

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Still think NS is scum...but TSO made little sense.

Unvote, Vote TSO
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:32 am

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like I said, I seemed to find him Town, but when I re-read, he wasn't.

Lynch Eddie, TD and NS, and you shouldn't go too far wrong.
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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:34 am

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In post 1816, T S O wrote:you know I looked through Nobody Special's ISO

and I really wanted to make a strong Town case on him.

but I just can't. I'm sorry. It doesn't exist. His posting through the game gave me a "disinterested Town" vibe but his ISO is nearly the opposite of this.

I would actually understand if you guys lynched me, not because I'm scummy, but my play has been sub-par here.
I agree with you. NS will be my target tomorrow.
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:41 am

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In post 1814, T S O wrote:
In post 1797, Varsoon wrote:@TSO: Probably isn't a good strategy to subtly suggest you are on a scum-team with NS, shoot for town-points for calling your wagon town, and then refute most points with dismissal rather than articulation.

Also, you should regularly give reads as town in any game. It lets fellow town track your trajectory. It's important and helps people read you transparently, which is a good thing for town.
Or it allows scum to know what you're thinking and keep you alive if you're not onto them. It's happened to me before.
Oh, another point against TSO, given the multiball, then. :P
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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:45 am

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NS, TD, Yates are my top picks for tomorrow.
Of course, we should also pressure the fuck out of anyone who thinks they can coast through.

@TD: Thanks for providing your case on Rubicon. I still don't think you're town, but it makes sense that if you're scum, you'd want a Rubicon lynch for two reasons:
He's PGO and you'd die if you tried an NK
He' scum and no one will target him out of fear of PGO.
Still, I'm scratching my head over why no one has targeted him so far just to see if his claim checks out. I guess they wouldn't be around to tell us after the fact, but, eh.

Was that the hammer on TSO?
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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:51 am

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That's a lynch!
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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:56 am

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TSO(6) - penguin_alien, Nobody Special, Skullduggery, Varsoon. Yates, Dante(Lynch)

Galaxoid and Nebular came to Earth in peace. Well sort of. They only wanted to take it over for investment purposes. Who knew the planet was so paranoid about alien takeover? The town swarmed around Nebular and found that he was town, just as his alien companion. Things were looking grim for the town, but there was still a chance.

TSO was
Nebular, Vanilla Townie


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