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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:44 pm
by Venus and Mars
In OMB, scum!SS watched me instead of the player who was the most obvious nk. I think Flea was the logical choice for harmography to be used on not me.

I am however the most logical choice for scum to have used it on.

VOTE: HEM

~M

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:44 pm
by Enchant
I think STD needs to go.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:47 pm
by Enchant
I used harmography on Kitty. Waited to see if someone suddenly appear, but nah.

No one came.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:47 pm
by Venus and Mars
*claimed*

SS claimed to have watched me. His reason was that I was obvtown

but

I was not likely to have been in any immediate danger.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:48 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1801, Enchant wrote:I think STD needs to go.
Why?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:50 pm
by Enchant
Reads "Can be town or scum" are profanity.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:50 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1802, Enchant wrote:I used harmography on Kitty. Waited to see if someone suddenly appear, but nah.

No one came.
STD claimed jk on Kitty and harmography only works on pain potions.

~M

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:51 pm
by Enchant
I know that it only works on pain pots, duh.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:54 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1802, Enchant wrote:I used harmography on Kitty. Waited to see if someone suddenly appear, but nah.

No one came.
Why would you have used harmography on Kitty? Why would scum target him?

Also why would scum!STD claim jk on Kitty?

~M

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:55 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1807, Enchant wrote:I know that it only works on pain pots, duh.
No need to say “duh”. Why are you suddenly pushing him?

~M

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:59 pm
by Venus and Mars
HEM claimed to use harmography on me. I jk’d NM, he said no one visited me. Meaning no one used a pp on me but NM could have tried.

You used harmography on Kitty who STD claimed to have jk’d and found nothing, so that validates that STD’s claim is true.

So why is he scum?

~M

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:00 pm
by Enchant
I expected other town will blast kitty, so it would be useful to prevent mafia from "Oh yeah, i damaged kitty too" and not needing providing real action.

If Kitty flipped scum, then basically i could knew people who is on conftown lvl and again prevent scum from tampering and claiming damage.


BUT ALL YOU ARE PACIFIST. DISGUSTING.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:01 pm
by Enchant
In post 1810, Venus and Mars wrote:HEM claimed to use harmography on me. I jk’d NM, he said no one visited me. Meaning no one used a pp on me but NM could have tried.

You used harmography on Kitty who STD claimed to have jk’d and found nothing, so that validates that STD’s claim is true.

So why is he scum?

~M
I think i need to make action list, hold up.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:06 pm
by Venus and Mars
If you used harmography on Kitty and STD jk’d him, you wouldn’t get any results, so what is your reasoning for pushing STD?

No one claimed jk on me, so HEM’s harmography results actually mean something.

I also don’t understand why scum would target Kitty with a pp when he was pushable?

Tonight that would actually make sense because of doc potion but not last night.

Why does scum!STD target Kitty with a pp anyway?

~M

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:13 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1811, Enchant wrote:I expected other town will blast kitty, so it would be useful to prevent mafia from "Oh yeah, i damaged kitty too" and not needing providing real action.

If Kitty flipped scum, then basically i could knew people who is on conftown lvl and again prevent scum from tampering and claiming damage.


BUT ALL YOU ARE PACIFIST. DISGUSTING.
That last part seems highly over the top?

But you found nothing which proves STD’s jk claim and if mafia wanted to frame a townie from damaging Kitty, then why does scum!STD jk him?

Also STD claimed jk on Kitty before you claimed harmography on him, so he wouldn’t have any reason to think you’d have used it on him.

~M

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:14 pm
by Venus and Mars
UNVOTE:

for now

I’m extremely confused.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:17 pm
by Enchant
Assuming everything truth...

Gamma Emerald - Pain.
Venus and Mars - Jailkeep on Not_Mafia.
Flea The Magician - No action
Enchant - Harmography on Kitty, result: 0
KittyTacky - Doctor on Venus. Failed due Jailkeep.
Not_Mafia - Pain. Failed due Jailkeep.
Dwlee99 - Didn't claim.
Save The Dragons - Jailkeep on Kitty.
humaneatingmonkey - Harmography on Venus. Result: 0
Roden - No action

Healthy:
NM
Kitty
Venus

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:26 pm
by Enchant
In post 1814, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1811, Enchant wrote:I expected other town will blast kitty, so it would be useful to prevent mafia from "Oh yeah, i damaged kitty too" and not needing providing real action.

If Kitty flipped scum, then basically i could knew people who is on conftown lvl and again prevent scum from tampering and claiming damage.


BUT ALL YOU ARE PACIFIST. DISGUSTING.
That last part seems highly over the top?

But you found nothing which proves STD’s jk claim and if mafia wanted to frame a townie from damaging Kitty, then why does scum!STD jk him?
Just what

My Harmography proves nothing. If Jailkeeps saves from potion not directly (not blockes attacker), it still shows attack happened.

On practice it means no one tried damage Kitty, or it was NM who was jailed directly. There no way to know if STD action is truth and i dislike your stance like it's confirmed.

I can make up many reasons why Kitty would be jailkeeped, but it's quessing game. He could also not to be at all.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:35 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1817, Enchant wrote:
In post 1814, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1811, Enchant wrote:I expected other town will blast kitty, so it would be useful to prevent mafia from "Oh yeah, i damaged kitty too" and not needing providing real action.

If Kitty flipped scum, then basically i could knew people who is on conftown lvl and again prevent scum from tampering and claiming damage.


BUT ALL YOU ARE PACIFIST. DISGUSTING.
That last part seems highly over the top?

But you found nothing which proves STD’s jk claim and if mafia wanted to frame a townie from damaging Kitty, then why does scum!STD jk him?
Just what

My Harmography proves nothing. If Jailkeeps saves from potion not directly (not blockes attacker), it still shows attack happened.

On practice it means no one tried damage Kitty, or it was NM who was jailed directly. There no way to know if STD action is truth and i dislike your stance like it's confirmed.

I can make up many reasons why Kitty would be jailkeeped, but it's quessing game. He could also not to be at all.
Your harmography revealed nothing and STD claimed jk, so why would you dislike my believing it’s true?

There isn’t any contradiction here.

~M

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:38 pm
by Enchant
Because he could use pain instead/anything else.

I understand believing claims, building protections on something unproven is not really.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:41 pm
by Venus and Mars
From what I can tell, there aren’t any contradictions wrt to any of the claims, so sure STD could be lying about the jk but since your harmography check shows no one used a pp on Kitty, I don’t understand your reaction at all.

Unless I see a clear contradiction between the claims, it’s logical to believe them and I have thus far seen no contradictions.

So yes, that obviously doesn’t mean it’s impossible that anyone lied but unless there’s a contradiction between them, there’s no reason to assume that.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:42 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1819, Enchant wrote:Because he could use pain instead/anything else.

I understand believing claims, building protections on something unproven is not really.
That’s true, I see your point. I still don’t understand why you think he’s scum?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:46 pm
by Venus and Mars
I mean it’s possible. I read his reasoning on Gamma as logically flawed but sincere. I could be wrong but I still don’t understand why you think that?

If it’s connected to the mech wrt Kitty, then sorry it went completely over my head. I’m not great at mech.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:52 pm
by Enchant
It's nothing about mech and you are right, there's no contradictions. Mafia still forced to lie to damage, so here is fact that they most likely do.

Maybe i am wrong on STD, it's more from watching recent posting. I am most often wrong about everything, so expected... I also needed to sleep 6 hours ago, so fuck.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:02 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1823, Enchant wrote:It's nothing about mech and you are right, there's no contradictions. Mafia still forced to lie to damage, so here is fact that they most likely do.

Maybe i am wrong on STD, it's more from watching recent posting. I am most often wrong about everything, so expected... I also needed to sleep 6 hours ago, so fuck.
True but if they lie, they can be caught. If Kitty dies tomorrow, then we know STD probably lied about the jk and if I die, then HEM ditto.

~M