What was it that solidified this for you today? I know you said you would entertain and discuss, but it doesn't seem like it took much (if any) discussion.
I think the difficulty of lynching TSE yesterday > awoo prob implies that scum didn’t both hop on, I think it was just 1 scum on
That means 1 scum between pk/GL
GL’s ISO is bad and I was wrong yesterday, TSE hard scumread GL and hard townread pk, I don’t think town really benefits from me 1v1ing pk today/forcing him through, and that goes double if I’m wrong to SR him and he is town because it will completely derail the game
very non-commital to everything throughout willing to vote almost everyone seemingly
), TSE read confirmed as being in good faith, not convinced 1v1ing pk today helps town even if he’s scum — and if I’m wrong and he is town then it’s prob actively harmful
This is the main thing
Also the timing of the inactivity isn’t great but is probably NAI
very non-commital to everything throughout willing to vote almost everyone seemingly
), TSE read confirmed as being in good faith, not convinced 1v1ing pk today helps town even if he’s scum — and if I’m wrong and he is town then it’s prob actively harmful
This is the main thing
Also the timing of the inactivity isn’t great but is probably NAI
I don't think that bolded statement is true, nor do I think he has been noncommital. He's provided his reads and has voted in line with them.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:06 am
by pisskop
his partner would say that suji
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:13 am
by Sujimichi
Or, someone who is actually critically reading the game. What I am saying is factual.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:10 am
by Menalque
Okay, why isn’t it true? I think he’s voted just about everyone who’s been on the table when it seemed like they might be viable. I think that flexibility and changes as part of a clear thought pattern make sense and generally show town. I think that GL’s seem more opportunistic than that, although I need to in depth his ISO rather than skimming to be sure.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:11 am
by Menalque
Lmao if pk actually ends up being town here
Hope ur sure that this is scum pk because I’m almost certainly flipping you if it’s not
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:19 am
by Sujimichi
In post 1842, Menalque wrote:Okay, why isn’t it true? I think he’s voted just about everyone who’s been on the table when it seemed like they might be viable. I think that flexibility and changes as part of a clear thought pattern make sense and generally show town. I think that GL’s seem more opportunistic than that, although I need to in depth his ISO rather than skimming to be sure.
in case a nEE voter sees reason to switch. But I promise I won't let deadline expire with no lynch and I'll be back throughout today in case my vote is needed on nEE
In post 1015, Sujimichi wrote:I would like to hear your thoughts on PMysterious, GuiltyLion.
scum
VOTE: PMysterious
lots of robotic posts, on the wrong wagon yesterday and shading the people voting scum, despite just rereading most of the game I still don't feel like I can accurately summarize the general state of his reads
speaking of which here's where I am at (pending a read of the last couple pages but I doubt much will change)
In post 700, Sujimichi wrote:Titus, why did you fail to address my comment on your Correspondence assertion?
In post 701, Joey_ wrote:Incoherence between ideas/behavior is a clue that their thought process is not genuine & more superficial than they want you to believe. Basically they often have to go "bottom-up"
Town looks incoherent but their processes "does exists" they just aren't very clear, its ''top-down'' so you can always investigate the thought process
In post 703, Titus wrote:@Suj Which post? I am under intense stress IRL. I'll comment today.
@Joey, I think GL is more genuine. Nee just sounds like he's trying to lynch not himself and keep his options open on me. GL and I ho way back to my noob days. I feel confident in his ability to see I am town
Ok with this post here
Suj/Joey is a TVS.
Usually Scum, at least when I flip scum in my games, will try and involve their mafia member in a conversation but then distance from another.
So the way that this was setup. I feel like 1 of Suj/Joey was @ed just to add conversation with a mafia member while the other is Town.
@TSE - did you notice that Titus is responding to specifically the two questions asked of her above here?
holding to see if anyone does have doubts on me they wanna sort out
can we pause on this? I'm too busy today this is a prodge but I'll be around tomorrow UNVOTE:
I'm not worried about you but I do want to talk a bit with Awoo if possible and read/digest what I've missed since my last thread read, I wasn't thinking we'd be at hammer time already
Awoo I haven't read since my last few posts so ignore this if you feel you've already addressed it significantly but I want your thoughts on who the wolf team is if we are assuming that this current pool is all town, and also like what actual probability you assign to scum!Menalque compared to scum!TSE because atm I don't grok why you'd have TSE as more town than Menalque
He could have hammered Norwegian instead of setting up Titus for a lynch. Voted Titus anyway, though expressed that he would not allow a no lynch.
Vote on PM with his rationale plus overall reads
Vote TSE and then unvote to prevent the day from ending before he had a chance to dialogue with Awoo.
I don't see non-commitment, nor do I see him willing to vote almost everyone seemingly. He did express an interest in voting pisskop the same day as PM, but if you'll notice the placement of pisskop in his reads, it lines up.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:23 am
by Awoo
So should we lynch you today instead?
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:28 am
by Sujimichi
Seems like a rhetorical question. I would obviously prefer a GuiltyLion lynch over myself.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:52 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I think what Awoo is trying to say is that you need to propose an alternative. Like the town seems pretty set to lynch either you or GL right now. Personally i would go for PK, but hey.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:54 am
by Sujimichi
I'm trying to flesh that out right now, which is why I have asked for other player's reasoning on why they think GuiltyLion is scum. Awoo's rationale made sense to me. Menalque's does not at the moment. pisskop does not seem to have any.
If I was forced to vote at the moment, I would vote pisskop.