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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:51 am

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Voting ben was a great vote because it caused the quickhammer which gave us a lot of fucking info.
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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:51 am

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In post 256, benhalkum wrote:VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

Casting my vote based upon post.

In the first vote of the game from npom, throws out a hi to Titus.

In several threads indicates they've played with Titus and Titus is town. Also questioned titus' vote changes.

As the game progressed now says they know Titus is great as scum.

Then cast a vote based off of just others votes, with no actual reasoning. Claims that because both have history with me is why abd they trust them.

One of those people is Titus that I don't recall having a history with and until today town claimed me. However, the weirdness falls of pushing Titus so pro town, which I believe she is now, but then drawing out how she is as scum then aligning with. I believe this is a distraction to pull away from the rest of their game posting, which is mostly short answers or statements with no relevant pro town help.

I also believe that FL is town based off of this as I do not think they'd quote either a scummate at the moment as when I flip green, it would cause speculation.

The scummate lives in another voter who hasn't said much/has deflected and/or not voted yet either for me or at all.

:Shrugs:

That's where I stand atm.
In post 258, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Holy OMGUS vote batman.
In post 259, benhalkum wrote:
In post 258, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Holy OMGUS vote batman.
Nope. Plenty of others I could of voted for if that was the case.

I don't take my vote casting lightly and have provided resoning behind it, which you have yet to do yourself.

With that being said I'm going to get off here and let the chips fall as they will.
In post 260, NoPowerOverMe wrote:You not omgusing before makes this less OMGUS? Think not.
In post 262, OutWorldER wrote:I'm feeling Ben is town here. His questioning feels like town genuinely trying to solve the slots he's engaging and his hesitance to vote feels to me more like a townie in the dark than scum. His reaction to his RVS wagon was bad but his reaction to this current one is good, still trying to solve and push even though he's being piled on.

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

Ranny and ben votes feel very opportunistic from this guy, and his current engagement with Ben does not feel genuine.
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:52 am

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In post 1823, Flavor Leaf wrote:ah, he did push me first. I just ISO'd.

Interesting
It’s this stuff that makes me doubt you.

You’re a really good manipulator so you trying to sell me your right has the opposite effect.

The best thing you can do is if you’re town let me see if Titus’s case has merit and stop trying for credit.
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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:53 am

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Ok Math,

here's some real talk for you.

NPOM and BM are never voting for each other. BM is gone so far as to imply he has a reason to trust NPOM's claim but not Outer's. Yet, he's claimed VT all over this thread. He wants deference rather than explaining that read.
FL Outer and I found each other very quickly, but with rationales for doing so. FL and I are never voting Outer this game phase. I'm not as locktown as FL is but my only outer scenario also needs NPOM scum.
You and Ranny are never voting each other.
Alch and no elim are the "free agents".

Get to a coalition of 5 that has a chance of hitting scum.
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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:54 am

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I'm not as lock town as I wanna be on Outer, but it's enough for me to roll the dice.
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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:54 am

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In post 1828, Titus wrote:Ok Math,

here's some real talk for you.

NPOM and BM are never voting for each other. BM is gone so far as to imply he has a reason to trust NPOM's claim but not Outer's. Yet, he's claimed VT all over this thread. He wants deference rather than explaining that read.
FL Outer and I found each other very quickly, but with rationales for doing so. FL and I are never voting Outer this game phase. I'm not as locktown as FL is but my only outer scenario also needs NPOM scum.
You and Ranny are never voting each other.
Alch and no elim are the "free agents".

Get to a coalition of 5 that has a chance of hitting scum.
That’s what I am doing.
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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:54 am

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*shrug*

I figure it's obvious to scum that I'm a PR at this point anyway so I'll do my proper claim.

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I'll keep the even or odd to myself for now. Obviously I claimed VT to reduce my chances of getting killed (sue me).

Hence
I don't believe the Bodyguard claim because 2 gated protectives who could actually do double duty on some nights, doesn't seem viable to me.


And
I do believe the alternate night neapolitan claim because I figure there's bound to be an investigative, and the gating tessellates well with my role.


Hence NPOM-town, OWER-scum.


I figure Titus and Flavor Leaf must both be scum too, because they both figured out I was actually a PR and tried to undermine me. Especially from FL, who I know would take a different line as town.

There's very little reason for me to make this as a scum-gambit either, given I clearly wasn't getting elimmed today and I'd be guaranteeing myself as the elim tomorrow. I voted for OWER as soon as he had claimed but was hoping I could elim him without outting myself.

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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:55 am

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In post 1827, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1823, Flavor Leaf wrote:ah, he did push me first. I just ISO'd.

Interesting
It’s this stuff that makes me doubt you.

You’re a really good manipulator so you trying to sell me your right has the opposite effect.

The best thing you can do is if you’re town let me see if Titus’s case has merit and stop trying for credit.
Then this proves exactly why you just want me to be scum here.

Any solve and case I push, you just think is me manipulating, but I'm town solving the game.
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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:55 am

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In post 1831, Battle Mage wrote:*shrug*

I figure it's obvious to scum that I'm a PR at this point anyway so I'll do my proper claim.

I am
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I'll keep the even or odd to myself for now. Obviously I claimed VT to reduce my chances of getting killed (sue me).

Hence
I don't believe the Bodyguard claim because 2 gated protectives who could actually do double duty on some nights, doesn't seem viable to me.


And
I do believe the alternate night neapolitan claim because I figure there's bound to be an investigative, and the gating tessellates well with my role.


Hence NPOM-town, OWER-scum.


I figure Titus and Flavor Leaf must both be scum too, because they both figured out I was actually a PR and tried to undermine me. Especially from FL, who I know would take a different line as town.

There's very little reason for me to make this as a scum-gambit either, given I clearly wasn't getting elimmed today and I'd be guaranteeing myself as the elim tomorrow. I voted for OWER as soon as he had claimed but was hoping I could elim him without outting myself.

VOTE: OutWorldER
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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:55 am

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also, hence me being so interested in the setup and claims (when as colleagues will know, i hate mech stuff)
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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:56 am

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In post 1833, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1831, Battle Mage wrote:*shrug*

I figure it's obvious to scum that I'm a PR at this point anyway so I'll do my proper claim.

I am
an alternate night Doctor.
I'll keep the even or odd to myself for now. Obviously I claimed VT to reduce my chances of getting killed (sue me).

Hence
I don't believe the Bodyguard claim because 2 gated protectives who could actually do double duty on some nights, doesn't seem viable to me.


And
I do believe the alternate night neapolitan claim because I figure there's bound to be an investigative, and the gating tessellates well with my role.


Hence NPOM-town, OWER-scum.


I figure Titus and Flavor Leaf must both be scum too, because they both figured out I was actually a PR and tried to undermine me. Especially from FL, who I know would take a different line as town.

There's very little reason for me to make this as a scum-gambit either, given I clearly wasn't getting elimmed today and I'd be guaranteeing myself as the elim tomorrow. I voted for OWER as soon as he had claimed but was hoping I could elim him without outting myself.

VOTE: OutWorldER
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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:56 am

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In post 1831, Battle Mage wrote:And I do believe the alternate night neapolitan claim because I figure there's bound to be an investigative, and the gating tessellates well with my role.
with a pair of masons, you think there's an investigative.

And yet another changed claim that I called out.
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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:56 am

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In post 1835, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1833, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1831, Battle Mage wrote:*shrug*

I figure it's obvious to scum that I'm a PR at this point anyway so I'll do my proper claim.

I am
an alternate night Doctor.
I'll keep the even or odd to myself for now. Obviously I claimed VT to reduce my chances of getting killed (sue me).

Hence
I don't believe the Bodyguard claim because 2 gated protectives who could actually do double duty on some nights, doesn't seem viable to me.


And
I do believe the alternate night neapolitan claim because I figure there's bound to be an investigative, and the gating tessellates well with my role.


Hence NPOM-town, OWER-scum.


I figure Titus and Flavor Leaf must both be scum too, because they both figured out I was actually a PR and tried to undermine me. Especially from FL, who I know would take a different line as town.

There's very little reason for me to make this as a scum-gambit either, given I clearly wasn't getting elimmed today and I'd be guaranteeing myself as the elim tomorrow. I voted for OWER as soon as he had claimed but was hoping I could elim him without outting myself.

VOTE: OutWorldER
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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:57 am

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if Flavor Leaf is town here, and didn't twig I was actually doctor, I dunno what to say :lol:
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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:58 am

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In post 1837, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1835, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1833, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1831, Battle Mage wrote:*shrug*

I figure it's obvious to scum that I'm a PR at this point anyway so I'll do my proper claim.

I am
an alternate night Doctor.
I'll keep the even or odd to myself for now. Obviously I claimed VT to reduce my chances of getting killed (sue me).

Hence
I don't believe the Bodyguard claim because 2 gated protectives who could actually do double duty on some nights, doesn't seem viable to me.


And
I do believe the alternate night neapolitan claim because I figure there's bound to be an investigative, and the gating tessellates well with my role.


Hence NPOM-town, OWER-scum.


I figure Titus and Flavor Leaf must both be scum too, because they both figured out I was actually a PR and tried to undermine me. Especially from FL, who I know would take a different line as town.

There's very little reason for me to make this as a scum-gambit either, given I clearly wasn't getting elimmed today and I'd be guaranteeing myself as the elim tomorrow. I voted for OWER as soon as he had claimed but was hoping I could elim him without outting myself.

VOTE: OutWorldER
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When did you switch to scumreading Flavor?
lol I'm trying to keep the odd/even bit concealed, this is not a helpful question for that
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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:58 am

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In post 1836, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1831, Battle Mage wrote:And I do believe the alternate night neapolitan claim because I figure there's bound to be an investigative, and the gating tessellates well with my role.
with a pair of masons, you think there's an investigative.

And yet another changed claim that I called out.
dude I bet the game on him flipping scum, out of nowhere. It's fairly obvious I had a mech reason.
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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:59 am

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In post 1839, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1837, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1835, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1833, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1831, Battle Mage wrote:*shrug*

I figure it's obvious to scum that I'm a PR at this point anyway so I'll do my proper claim.

I am
an alternate night Doctor.
I'll keep the even or odd to myself for now. Obviously I claimed VT to reduce my chances of getting killed (sue me).

Hence
I don't believe the Bodyguard claim because 2 gated protectives who could actually do double duty on some nights, doesn't seem viable to me.


And
I do believe the alternate night neapolitan claim because I figure there's bound to be an investigative, and the gating tessellates well with my role.


Hence NPOM-town, OWER-scum.


I figure Titus and Flavor Leaf must both be scum too, because they both figured out I was actually a PR and tried to undermine me. Especially from FL, who I know would take a different line as town.

There's very little reason for me to make this as a scum-gambit either, given I clearly wasn't getting elimmed today and I'd be guaranteeing myself as the elim tomorrow. I voted for OWER as soon as he had claimed but was hoping I could elim him without outting myself.

VOTE: OutWorldER
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When did you switch to scumreading Flavor?
lol I'm trying to keep the odd/even bit concealed, this is not a helpful question for that
The elim is between NPOM and Outer.

If your claim is true scum probably have an RB or you’re dead. No reason to conceal this if you’re town.
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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:00 am

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it's just way too convenient, dude. Even if Outer is scum, NPOM is still scum.
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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:01 am

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In post 1841, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1839, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1837, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1835, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1833, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1831, Battle Mage wrote:*shrug*

I figure it's obvious to scum that I'm a PR at this point anyway so I'll do my proper claim.

I am
an alternate night Doctor.
I'll keep the even or odd to myself for now. Obviously I claimed VT to reduce my chances of getting killed (sue me).

Hence
I don't believe the Bodyguard claim because 2 gated protectives who could actually do double duty on some nights, doesn't seem viable to me.


And
I do believe the alternate night neapolitan claim because I figure there's bound to be an investigative, and the gating tessellates well with my role.


Hence NPOM-town, OWER-scum.


I figure Titus and Flavor Leaf must both be scum too, because they both figured out I was actually a PR and tried to undermine me. Especially from FL, who I know would take a different line as town.

There's very little reason for me to make this as a scum-gambit either, given I clearly wasn't getting elimmed today and I'd be guaranteeing myself as the elim tomorrow. I voted for OWER as soon as he had claimed but was hoping I could elim him without outting myself.

VOTE: OutWorldER
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On the night I could act, I protected Flavor Leaf.
When did you switch to scumreading Flavor?
lol I'm trying to keep the odd/even bit concealed, this is not a helpful question for that
The elim is between NPOM and Outer.

If your claim is true scum probably have an RB or you’re dead. No reason to conceal this if you’re town.
with the possibility of 2 masons, and an investigative, I can see a world where they don't kill me tonight. Especially when it feels like town is close to the solve. You're a smart dude, I think I've given you what you need.
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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:01 am

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In post 1842, Flavor Leaf wrote:it's just way too convenient, dude. Even if Outer is scum, NPOM is still scum.
There’s a lot here that’s too convenient.

I know how to force scum to come out.

I may be bad at reads but I am good at manipulating people. Scum should become evident if I am doing this right.
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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:02 am

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In post 1843, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1841, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1839, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1837, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1835, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1833, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1831, Battle Mage wrote:*shrug*

I figure it's obvious to scum that I'm a PR at this point anyway so I'll do my proper claim.

I am
an alternate night Doctor.
I'll keep the even or odd to myself for now. Obviously I claimed VT to reduce my chances of getting killed (sue me).

Hence
I don't believe the Bodyguard claim because 2 gated protectives who could actually do double duty on some nights, doesn't seem viable to me.


And
I do believe the alternate night neapolitan claim because I figure there's bound to be an investigative, and the gating tessellates well with my role.


Hence NPOM-town, OWER-scum.


I figure Titus and Flavor Leaf must both be scum too, because they both figured out I was actually a PR and tried to undermine me. Especially from FL, who I know would take a different line as town.

There's very little reason for me to make this as a scum-gambit either, given I clearly wasn't getting elimmed today and I'd be guaranteeing myself as the elim tomorrow. I voted for OWER as soon as he had claimed but was hoping I could elim him without outting myself.

VOTE: OutWorldER
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On the night I could act, I protected Flavor Leaf.
When did you switch to scumreading Flavor?
lol I'm trying to keep the odd/even bit concealed, this is not a helpful question for that
The elim is between NPOM and Outer.

If your claim is true scum probably have an RB or you’re dead. No reason to conceal this if you’re town.
with the possibility of 2 masons, and an investigative, I can see a world where they don't kill me tonight. Especially when it feels like town is close to the solve. You're a smart dude, I think I've given you what you need.
I am telling you you haven’t.
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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:03 am

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lol Math come on

I'm an odd-night Doc, so I was out and about on Night 1. And I'll be protecting our neapolitan tonight.
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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:04 am

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In post 349, Battle Mage wrote:if OutworldER is scum, he has experienced teammates. Would probably imply at least 1 of Titus/Flavor Leaf as scum too.
In post 354, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 352, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 349, Battle Mage wrote:if OutworldER is scum, he has experienced teammates. Would probably imply at least 1 of Titus/Flavor Leaf as scum too.
Why do you think that?
he was super bombastic and confident on Day 1. I don't think he's the type to go balls-out like that, unless he was confident his team would carry the victory.

Plus I'm thinking experienced scum anyway, given a lesser known player got NKed.
In post 770, Battle Mage wrote:if superbowl, outworld and npom are all town, where the fuck does that leave us? Flavor Leaf and the lurker express? :lol:
In post 785, Battle Mage wrote:i wish i hadnt claimed vanilla, or this wouldve been a great game to eat an NK in :lol:
In post 1839, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1837, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1835, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1833, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1831, Battle Mage wrote:*shrug*

I figure it's obvious to scum that I'm a PR at this point anyway so I'll do my proper claim.

I am
an alternate night Doctor.
I'll keep the even or odd to myself for now. Obviously I claimed VT to reduce my chances of getting killed (sue me).

Hence
I don't believe the Bodyguard claim because 2 gated protectives who could actually do double duty on some nights, doesn't seem viable to me.


And
I do believe the alternate night neapolitan claim because I figure there's bound to be an investigative, and the gating tessellates well with my role.


Hence NPOM-town, OWER-scum.


I figure Titus and Flavor Leaf must both be scum too, because they both figured out I was actually a PR and tried to undermine me. Especially from FL, who I know would take a different line as town.

There's very little reason for me to make this as a scum-gambit either, given I clearly wasn't getting elimmed today and I'd be guaranteeing myself as the elim tomorrow. I voted for OWER as soon as he had claimed but was hoping I could elim him without outting myself.

VOTE: OutWorldER
Actions?
On the night I could act, I protected Flavor Leaf.
When did you switch to scumreading Flavor?
lol I'm trying to keep the odd/even bit concealed, this is not a helpful question for that
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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:04 am

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if either Titus or FL are town, honestly... i can't believe i had to hard claim here. :facepalm:
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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:04 am

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In post 1846, Battle Mage wrote:lol Math come on

I'm an odd-night Doc, so I was out and about on Night 1. And I'll be protecting our neapolitan tonight.
And not the masons because?
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