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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:54 am
by fferyllt
Vote Count 2-3
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Not_Mafia
(4): Infinity 324, Iverson, Disaster Cartel, SirCakez

Not Voting
(6): The Bulge, Venus Fly Trap, Momrangal, Kismet, notscience, Not_Mafia


With 10 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.



Deadline: May 11, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-05-10 21:00:00)

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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:55 am
by Kismet
i guess i didn't realize salsa joined that wagon too

why does salsa slot in particular look worse after that flip

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:57 am
by SirCakez
In post 1822, Kismet wrote:
In post 1820, SirCakez wrote:A lot of it is me going back to my reads from yesterday and reevaluating with the flips we have now.
you think the entirety of the nacho wagon up until L-1 was town after reevaluation?
I didn't say this, what? I am looking at both Salsa slot and Bulge as scum who could have also been scum on wagon. I feel pretty strongly about my VFT, infinity and notty townreads
Iverson wrote:You are giving the reads about 30 seconds apart. It is very unclear what you are looking at, what spurs the statements, and what time you are spending processing them.
Ok? I never write out everything I'm thinking.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:57 am
by SirCakez
In post 1826, Kismet wrote:i guess i didn't realize salsa joined that wagon too

why does salsa slot in particular look worse after that flip
I'm thinking about how she spent so much time attacking DC but ended up on Nacho anyways

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:58 am
by SirCakez
In post 1571, Salsabil Faria wrote:
Well, to be very honest,
Nachomamma8
is still in my re-evaluation group cause I just can't sort him. But I also think, his wagon is the best bet for upcoming days atp.


UNVOTE: Disaster Cartel

VOTE: Nachomamma8
This vote especially looks bad
Like preemptively setting up for the townflip

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:59 am
by Iverson
Cakez, there are two implications here. Both are bad.

One is that they're just fake reads from scum, split up to give the appearance of cognition.

The other is that you're not putting any thought into them at all.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:59 am
by SirCakez
In post 1490, The Bulge wrote:hmm don't expect much from me tonight but I could vote nancho
In post 1733, The Bulge wrote:VOTE: nacho

hammer range?
hmmmm

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:59 am
by SirCakez
In post 1830, Iverson wrote:Cakez, there are two implications here. Both are bad.

One is that they're just fake reads from scum, split up to give the appearance of cognition.

The other is that you're not putting any thought into them at all.
Have you ever played with me before? Read my meta and come back.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:01 am
by Iverson
In post 1832, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1830, Iverson wrote:Cakez, there are two implications here. Both are bad.

One is that they're just fake reads from scum, split up to give the appearance of cognition.

The other is that you're not putting any thought into them at all.
Have you ever played with me before? Read my meta and come back.
Yes. "I don't really think as town either" is not the defense you think it is.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:02 am
by Kismet
In post 1828, SirCakez wrote:I'm thinking about how she spent so much time attacking DC but ended up on Nacho anyways
i'll consider this. i don't think it's a bad point although would obviously be stronger w/ a DC scum flip

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:03 am
by Iverson
FWIW now you're explaining and thinking, talking about the initial set

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:04 am
by Kismet
it's more about at what point in the game day did she switch

because at some point someone's gotta declare a DC push as not viable for the day and move, regardless of alignment

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:10 am
by SirCakez
In post 1833, Iverson wrote:
In post 1832, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1830, Iverson wrote:Cakez, there are two implications here. Both are bad.

One is that they're just fake reads from scum, split up to give the appearance of cognition.

The other is that you're not putting any thought into them at all.
Have you ever played with me before? Read my meta and come back.
Yes. "I don't really think as town either" is not the defense you think it is.
This is an extremely stupid argument

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:11 am
by SirCakez
In post 1836, Kismet wrote:it's more about at what point in the game day did she switch

because at some point someone's gotta declare a DC push as not viable for the day and move, regardless of alignment
Her vote seems like total fluffballs though
It wasn't like a "well i have to move for deadline"

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:12 am
by Kismet
even considering that potential point, i'm still keeping cakez at arm's length right now.
In post 1307, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1304, Momrangal wrote:VOTE: Not Mafia
also
what the hell is this?
In post 1309, SirCakez wrote:if Nacho flips scum then we have a great scum pool of (Mom, Peta, DC,
NM
) to work with
is somewhat problematic cogdis for me and doesn't allow for mara being town who didn't want to vote nacho

it's even worse considering this is essentially the scum pool cakez has anyway (or at least cakez is still scumreading all of these slots)

trajectory on mara in particular is very sloppy to me.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:13 am
by Kismet
In post 1838, SirCakez wrote:Her vote seems like total fluffballs though
i mean how was it really any different from what you did?

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:13 am
by Iverson
Now that you're explaining to Kismet, sure. My point is that being more thoughtful and transparent goes much further than tossing random reads 30s apart with no context, explanation, or visible process.

I'm not your mafia coach though and I'd rather just leave it to Kismet to juice you for content, so keep going.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:14 am
by Kismet
In post 1305, SirCakez wrote:Ok I trust you + notscience on this.

VOTE: Nacho
this i think has the same kind of energy to it as the salsa post you're referencing

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:20 am
by Not_Mafia
In post 1797, Iverson wrote:
In post 1791, Not_Mafia wrote:Scum are going all out to get 2-0 and put us on the back foot for the rest of the game, there’s at least 1, probably 2 scum already on me here, if I were scum I would 100% have been the sacrifice
Name names.
Disaster, infinity and cakez

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:21 am
by Kismet
i guess my big point here is that people who think mara is scum should either be

1) pushing mara, "hot amazeballs scum counterwagon to flipped town"
2) finding who in the fuck was scum pushing nacho, which mara built up as a counterwagon to

going on nm to me, as someone who thinks mara is scum out of the gate is ?????????

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:21 am
by Iverson
ISOing NM it seems like he just wants to see how far he can get in this table playing like a dead fish. He knew exactly what he signed up for as town, that doesn't mean I expect him to turn tryhard but the hesitance to be wrong in his callout and to name names suggests he's scum.

P-Edit: Oh hello there. Talk more about those? Why am I excluded?

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:25 am
by Iverson
In post 1766, Kismet wrote:I still mostly think Mara is town; i think her reaction to the nacho wagon is definitely the road not taken and she could've easily hopped on Nacho as a survivalist effort or made herself the 6th vote knowing i was basically going to hammer at deadline and wanted nacho more than i wanted her

peta was also the biggest driver on that wagon and it makes sense as scum if he was going to come in w/ the express purpose of defending nacho it was with the intent of creating a wagon on another townie

instead she said she'd rather take the no-elim - which as she correctly pointed out, isn't anti-town on D1
I wanted to intentionally hold off commenting on this Mara until I read what happened, but given how far out that is and the dialogue with Cakez right now I want to note that I'm super interested in this line of thinking and find the followup by Kismet very, very town.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:25 am
by Not_Mafia
I think you're town and Salsa is pretty transparent, cakez whole trajectory is pretty disgusting, he makes posts with a lot of words and looks like he's solving but his conclusions are always so surface level and obvious

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:39 am
by SirCakez
In post 1842, Kismet wrote:
In post 1305, SirCakez wrote:Ok I trust you + notscience on this.

VOTE: Nacho
this i think has the same kind of energy to it as the salsa post you're referencing
Salsa did not have anyone actively poking her onto Nacho though

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:39 am
by SirCakez
In post 1847, Not_Mafia wrote:I think you're town and Salsa is pretty transparent, cakez whole trajectory is pretty disgusting, he makes posts with a lot of words and looks like he's solving but his conclusions are always so surface level and obvious
Lmao