Mafiascum.net

Wow. I go twenty four hours without checking in on the thread, and there's this? That's funny.

Right, then! Let me put in my thoughts:

People I'm 99% sure aren't scum:

Pablo - 0 insanity as of n2.

semioldguy - Kill attempt.

Looker - Investigation report on Pablo only makes sense if Pablo is a cult partner. Pablo isn't scum, ergo, not cult partner. Scum would've posted investigation report on semioldguy.

Bad lynches without more concrete information:

Datadanne - Well...*could* possibly be scum, but could only be murderer, and can't win as such. So a bad lynch.

Chaco, Nachomamma: Pablo could confirm either of these as confirmed townie by researching them. If confirmed, they could then confirm/non-confirm the other. Lynching removes that when there are better suspects around.

Sarag, ZykeZero - I agree with semioldguy that these two cannot be scum if there is only one cult remaining. If a cult dies and the game continues, they need to be looked at again.

semioldguy wrote: Night four he claimed to research SlySly. This claim makes no sense to me as SlySly was going to have less insanity than Magua unless he somehow managed to gain two insanities in one night (or was lying), which is highly unlikely. This made it a safe claim to fake knowing that he could almost never be wrong.

I was curious if he was lying. I assume that the remaining scum is lying about their sanity, as everyone's is too low otherwise, and I found SlySly's actions to be sowing distrust and purposefully trying to twist what I said, so I thought he'd be a good choice to check.

My other possible actions would be to ward, which would've given me no information, or to equip a res kit or forensics kit -- the same. Given the noise I've been hearing, I didn't expect that I would live two more nights, so I figured I'd get information I could share with the town while I could.

Night one the ward claim on Furpants_Tom would be nice cover for Craft Fetish action. Furpants_Tom heard noise on two other nights, though both of those nights also have explained for reasons for the noise. The other two noise claims for Furpants_Tom came from people who died before Furpants_Tom died. Since Furpants_Tom had heard other noises it made him a nice Fetish target since it would have been easy to point to another noise as the reason for death. Magua also admits to this being a bad ward choice and his choice actually went against his own suggested pro-town plan.

As I said d2, warding RestFermata was a mistake because I didn't see that RestFermata had replaced Exalt, and didn't make the connection that Exalt had heard nosie meant that RestFermata had heard noise.

A fetish of Exalt/RestFermata/Furpants_Tom could've been created n0 or n2. My spreadsheet shows no claim for the noise Furpants_Tom heard on n2 -- am I missing something?

Many of his early suspects in this game are players who don't or hardly post. Easy targets.

I have a thing for lurkers in a game, since there's no discussion, it makes it difficult to scumhunt them. I stand to this.

Also the noise claims are very small today. Only two people heard noise, and both have accompanying claims explaining that noise. This makes the investigation last night on Magua showing no blood to not be conclusive as it is likely any cultist laundered last night. Also Magua has claimed to have taken Compulsion so he should know that being caught bloody at any time would be his demise.

I took Compulsion: Launder because it seemed the least intrusive insanity remaining to me, as I don't expect to be bloody before being dead, and, even if I were to get bloody, it's not like I have important night actions remaining to take. Research is pretty much done for me, and warding isn't as important as I thought it would be n0 and n1. I was thinking that tonight, I would probably equip a res kit and use that for the rest of the game.

If I'm to be lynched, once I turn up town, remember this:

Unless overruled by information revealed tomorrow, I recommend lynching Sajin tomorrow, then ryan after that, then SlySly, and finally Datadanne.

Lynch Nacho or Chaco if they are not cleared with the proper insanity counts.

If someone is lynched and comes up cult and the game is still going on, add Sarag and ZykeZero to the list of suspects.

If a murder occurs, add semioldguy to the list of suspects.

Good luck.

Magua, why didn't you take Twitchy as opposed to Compulsion: Launder? At that point, you had no need to hide your insanity as an investigator, so why not take the one that wouldn't hinder your ability as town in any way?

@SlySly
Yes, but if Kise is the player in question.. then we have two more grave robs which he was responsible for and therefore two more insanity to account for (his minimum would had to of been five if was the only remaining cult). The minimum insanity would have needed to be three, but if one of the players in question has other insanities, like grave robbing, to account for it obviously goes up.

@Magua
Night Two dramonic hinted to have stalked Furpants_Tom. Even though he is not aligned with town I feel that he was telling the truth in what for him was a hopeless situation.

Nachomamma8 wrote:Magua, why didn't you take Twitchy as opposed to Compulsion: Launder? At that point, you had no need to hide your insanity as an investigator, so why not take the one that wouldn't hinder your ability as town in any way?

Did you see what happened to Kise?

semioldguy wrote: @Magua
Night Two dramonic hinted to have stalked Furpants_Tom. Even though he is not aligned with town I feel that he was telling the truth in what for him was a hopeless situation.

Possible, but there was as equal incentive for him to be telling the truth as there would be for him to lie, since he'd lose anyways. I disregarded it as WIFOM.

I'm missing something here, if we kill one more cult, we still run the risk of there being a murderer afoot.

right?...*twicherroonie*

@Magua
It is unlikely Furpants_Tom had the fetish of him made on night two. It was the same night the fetish was made of me and as we know CSL was busy robbing a grave that night and could not have also grabbed a fetish of someone.

I'm not going to argue that I'm not a good lynch, because there are enough cleareds in my eyes to give the town the mislynches it needs to kill all the suspects as long as there's nothing stupid going on like 3 murderers who haven't killed.

Lynching me because I've got a high insanity and no good way to clear me is an argument I can accept, and I see no reason to argue against it.

Lynching me because I warded RestFermata, who later died after hearing noise on three different nights, is a bad argument. That's all I'm saying.

I've said my bit in post 1975. Once I turn up town, please keep it in mind. Sajin tomorrow, unless Nachomamma or Chaco are found to have lied about their 0 insanity.

Sorry folks, I've been crushed by school, complete with 4 exams in 2 days and my first honest-to-god all nighter. I will be *right* back with my complete claim on my nights.

I equipped Occult Books last night and have 0 insanites, so I'm good for Research (right?)

semioldguy wrote:@Magua
It is unlikely Furpants_Tom had the fetish of him made on night two. It was the same night the fetish was made of me and as we know CSL was busy robbing a grave that night and could not have also grabbed a fetish of someone.

But this would also make support a "there's more cult members than we believed" theory.

Here we go...


Start: Resuscitation Kit

Night 0: (sideney) Protected Mastin (stupid, b/c no one can die on Night 0. Way to go, sideney). No Noise.

Night 1: (sideney) Did nothing. Worthless. No Noise.

Night 2: Protected Sarag.

Night 3: Protected semioldguy.

Night 4: Equip: Occult Books. Still Bloody. No Noise.

I currently have Occult Books.

I was both requested to Launder and Research on Night 4 by two different people, so I went with the more useful one.

*Twitch*
Not much had happened for a while after my Action Claim, and I come back a day and a half later and have a few pages to trek through.
I agree that everything thus far makes sense, and what semi has said is pretty spot on.

I will stay with my 2 Insanity so we can do the group thing that was discussed, as suggested before.

I have no problem not heightening my Insanity count if it can later clear me.

What would people suggest I do tonight to not gain an insanity? Equip a Res Kit? Equip something else?

Why?

though i feel either nacho or chaco are lying, they both have 0 insanity claim. i am willing to not vote for either until there is more evidence as to which or either of them are actually fabricating their claims.

Chaco - 1 (Datadanne)

Not Voting - 6 (Looker, Magua, ryan2754, ZykeZero, Pablo Molinero, SlySly)


Deadline:

: Looker

Ouch! No fair, that hurt >.<

So what's going on? Whaddayu guys want me to do? Think? Alright, I warned you...

Well, we've gone nowhere. I have nothing new to add; people should start voting Magua or start actually doing something and providing reasons why they aren't.

I would like Data to full claim (missing a few details). Looker should as well.

Then we should lynch Magua and proceed into night.

Do not forget the list please.

I am James Bond, an Investigator who started out with Foresnic Tools

I would like noises and action claims from all nights, looker.

Night 0 - Followed Dramonic to a room he went into, found no blood in it
Forensic Tools; No Insanities

Night 1 - Stalked Zwet but lost him I guess
Forensic Tools; 1 Insanity (???)

Night 2 - Masturbated
Sticky Forensic Tools; 1 Insanity (Compulsion)

--- Replaced In ---

Night 3 - Followed Pablo into a room he went in, found blood everywhere
No Equipment; 1 Insanity (Compulsion)

Night 4 - Jacked an old lady for her Resuscitation Kit
Resuscitation Kit; 1 Insanity (Compulsion)

As far as noise, I don't know how that goes. Will that be indicated some way or am I not reading into it enough, yea, I don't know. I think I might have heard it N1 though if I'm reading right.

Nachomamma8 wrote:I have nothing new to add; people should start voting Magua or ... providing reasons why they aren't.

Nachomamma8 wrote:

Vote: Magua

The case on him makes sense.

Please STFU, wagonhopper. Your analysis is far from comprehensive.

SlySly wrote:

Nachomamma8 wrote:I have nothing new to add; people should start voting Magua or ... providing reasons why they aren't.

Nachomamma8 wrote:

Vote: Magua

The case on him makes sense.

Please STFU, wagonhopper. Your analysis is far from comprehensive.

Name one other suspect of yours that can't be easily confirmed by investigation.