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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:47 am
by VisceraEyes
In post 1974, fferyllt wrote:His AA vote was where I started have a slightly uneasy feeling about GiF. Though I was unhappy with what I thought were the other likely lynches at the time, so I couldn't really fault him.
I thought Eye would be where the votes flowed if they flowed off AA. and I had more of a town read on Eye than I did AA by far.
I'll echo this. Like some of his content seemed a little off, but the effort put into his posts at the very least seemed genuine. My problem ended up being how he shrugged off suspicion of him by saying "Oh well I thought it would be obvious that I was doing XYZ but it wasn't so whatever lynch me"

I might be oversimplifying his reaction, but that's how it felt to me and I didn't like it.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:48 am
by fferyllt
@VE Who is "him"? Are you talking about Eye? Or GiF?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:49 am
by Ineffective
So GMwas out of contention at this point?

I just ughh... GIFSpoe is exactly like mine except gifs POE has me in it and vice versa.... Why didnt gif try to puch on mac or GM?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:49 am
by VisceraEyes
Eye

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:50 am
by fferyllt
I thought so, but wasn't sure. tks.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:54 am
by VisceraEyes
How do you guys feel about massclaim? I'm starting to get paranoid about GM having so little to say in the face of votes falling off her...that seems like the kind of thing that would spur a townGM into a flurry of activity, not inspire uneasy silence. I want more dataz, and now Inef has me thinking scum are just going to leave her alive if she's town causing us headache tomorrow. I feel like a massclaim will give us something more to work with in this situation. Anyone agree?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:56 am
by fferyllt
In post 1977, Ineffective wrote:So GMwas out of contention at this point?

I just ughh... GIFSpoe is exactly like mine except gifs POE has me in it and vice versa.... Why didnt gif try to puch on mac or GM?
GM and Mac had been in contention earlier, but we had moved on.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:56 am
by Ineffective
I have been for this since i first performed my POE - and wanted GM to claim first so he couldnt claim PR when i voted him later.... I think this is frowned upon d2 tho

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:57 am
by VisceraEyes
Like I don't know about you guys, but when I'm PR and claim I feel empowered...like, now scum can't do anything because I'm confirmed-town style. Regardless of whether it's true or not, that's the feeling it gives me. GM since claiming has been in a defensive kind of posture and when votes started falling off her that didn't change much. I don't like it, I didn't like her claim in the first place....If she's fake-claiming I want to know about it. And if we massclaim scum will be forced to either PRclaim now or get instalynched if they try later.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:58 am
by Ineffective
But like... My initial motivation for massclaim as stated--- the time has passed... Your reason seems legitimate enough... But what would be the order of claims?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:59 am
by VisceraEyes
The thing is if all three of VE/feryl/Inef are town, then a mass-claim basically solves the game doesn't it? Regardless of what scum try to claim, if we're all town we can narrow down the lynches in such a way that scum CAN NOT win right?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:00 am
by Ineffective
Btw you are giving GM ammo for his arguement that we are scumbuddies and that im rolefishing lol

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:01 am
by fferyllt
In post 1980, VisceraEyes wrote:How do you guys feel about massclaim? I'm starting to get paranoid about GM having so little to say in the face of votes falling off her...that seems like the kind of thing that would spur a townGM into a flurry of activity, not inspire uneasy silence. I want more dataz, and now Inef has me thinking scum are just going to leave her alive if she's town causing us headache tomorrow. I feel like a massclaim will give us something more to work with in this situation. Anyone agree?
It's a 50% chance that the game has only one town PR. I'm a little queasy about the idea but I crave data too.

pedit yeah I know what you mean about feeling empowered as a claimed PR.

pedit 2 maybe.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:02 am
by Ineffective
In post 1985, VisceraEyes wrote:The thing is if all three of VE/feryl/Inef are town, then a mass-claim basically solves the game doesn't it? Regardless of what scum try to claim, if we're all town we can narrow down the lynches in such a way that scum CAN NOT win right?
Yes... This is true... IFthe POE that me and gif. (and seemingly yourself) seem to share iscorrect

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:05 am
by Ineffective
If GM is somehow legit jailkeeper then. The "one pr" scenario is already dealt with--- as the solo pr has already claimed---- i doubt he is a real pr and that if he is that he is the solo pr bc i have 2 pr reads... One really strong and the other a tenative read

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:08 am
by VisceraEyes
Well now I'm curious. Who are your PR reads? No harm in saying now is there? Like, with an already claimed PR and us talking about a massclaim and everything, it doesn't seem to matter much.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:12 am
by fferyllt
my nightmare scenario is that you two are the scum and have hardcore buddied me. but, I can't for the life of me see Carey and Eye as scumbuddies. Eye didn't look nearly sophisticated enough at mafia to start bussing his scum partner the way he went after Carey. And Carey's replace-out did not look like scum-flake.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:15 am
by Ineffective
In post 1990, VisceraEyes wrote:Well now I'm curious. Who are your PR reads? No harm in saying now is there? Like, with an already claimed PR and us talking about a massclaim and everything, it doesn't seem to matter much.
Outting my PR reads before the claim would seriously detriment part of the reason i am in favor of it---- if i out a pr read on scum they might claim pr if i out a pr read on a pr i will question if they claimed because i outted it

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:16 am
by Ineffective
In post 1991, fferyllt wrote:my nightmare scenario is that you two are the scum and have hardcore buddied me. but, I can't for the life of me see Carey and Eye as scumbuddies. Eye didn't look nearly sophisticated enough at mafia to start bussing his scum partner the way he went after Carey. And Carey's replace-out did not look like scum-flake.
In any case i want to meta VE to see if he is good at replicating the butthurt towny expression that i saw him as town for--- before this happens

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:20 am
by VisceraEyes
I encourage that because it will give us information. For instance say they do as you say and claim PR. Then there's another PR. Now there are three PR claims and that narrows down one for sure scum. And who cares if they claim because you outted it? The point is for town to be truthful and EVERYONE claim anyway.

Anyway I'll make this really easy. I'm a
Town Doctor
. Now any additional PR's HAVE to claim in order to clear up there being more than 2 PRs.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:22 am
by Ineffective
Ya well- you were my stong pr read... Tenative one was GIF

IMVT

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:23 am
by VisceraEyes
Oh and I probably don't have to tell you who I protected N1.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:23 am
by fferyllt
Nightmare scenario seriously deflated.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:25 am
by fferyllt
Let's popcorn this. VE you pick who goes next.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:25 am
by VisceraEyes
feryl you're up...or am I taking that post to be a VT claim?