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In post 1940, Amrun wrote:For what reason do you literally not even register Pret’s reads, or anything Datisi has done even though they’ve been quite active, but have memorized Creature’s ISO even though he wasn’t here for half of the game day?

In post 1976, Menalque wrote:otoh I think AFF is basically locktown if ddl!town,

there was a post he made that made me think very strongly that it's not SvT

even if it can be SvS

In post 1969, Amrun wrote:

In post 1962, Menalque wrote:

In post 1937, Amrun wrote:

In post 1854, Menalque wrote:

In post 1650, Amrun wrote:I keep expecting S_S to explain that naked vote on me, but nope. Just hangin out for presumably no reason.


I strongly townread GL now, fwiw. On day 1 I could not follow his train of thought in a genuine way. D2, with the realization that he was comparing it so specifically to high noon, I do.

Menalque, why are you categorizing DogWatch as a lurker? I don’t.

because she has the lowest posts of everyone in the game aside from alim and tex/gamma!slot

I just checked and she had only 3 more posts than alim at the time that you posted this and he hasn't posted in 3 days so my question back to you is why don't you think that's lurky?

Eh, she’s been present for every major game state IIRC. Whenever she posts, it’s content. Not everyone is a spammer. That aspect doesn’t bother me.

eh, I'll reread, I'd say she's had a very low thread presence imo which is lurky

do you consider lurky to be inherently scummy?

I guess it depends on your definition of lurking. If you’re simply comparing number of posts down a list, no.

I guess my answer is still no, either way, though.

I think lurking is inherently antitown, but it’s a behavior town frequently engage in too. I just recently tried to stop a mislynch in LUV (chronic lurker) upon replacing into a game because I think his play, while antitown, made most sense to be town motivated. (I was right, fwiw.)

For me, it depends on HOW a player is lurking. What junctures do they choose to pop in? What do they say, when they do?

A lurker probably has better than random chance at being scum

, so I guess that kinda makes my answer yes, but... Context really does matter.

The shit texcat did, beetlejuicing and deliberately avoiding commitment on most major gamestate changes, THAT is lurking I find tremendously scummy. Gamma’s, however, is NAI because he’s catching up so he’s in a grace period for me.

In post 1977, Amrun wrote:I also recently anti-spewed as scum that was clearly going down, and not the last scum, specifically to protect my partner and not make any of his mislynches unviable. It was radja’s recent micro and my partner was gamma. So I definitely know scum could and would do that.

In post 1982, Datisi wrote:how did you arrive at that conclusion

menalque

In post 1840, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 1827, DrDolittle wrote:its not even the leadership role, its blatantly sticking his neck out when he's clearly wrong. i don't think menalque-style-scum plays like that you know - he would give himself some form of out

idk

This is the reason I don't think Mena is scum. I think scum!Mena would've backed off of the DDL push by now because if it goes through, then he knows it'll look bad on him and he'd want to avoid that as much as possible.

I think the only scenario where Mena is scum here is if he's scum with DDL and this is his attempt at getting towncred.

In post 1985, Datisi wrote:hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

In post 1986, Amrun wrote:@Menalque: Part of it is that I keep waffling on my reads of other players, but I was internally discounting my read on tex for the same reason until I re-read day 1. In context, it came off as active lurking and the phrasing of his posts made me feel like he was avoiding associatives, and one that he was setting up mislynches, which I noted in thread.

It is rare that my top scumread is the lurkiest player, but alas... I’m in that sad position.

However, also voting DDL, etc etc

In post 1979, Datisi wrote:S_S, what's on your mind? Any reads?

In post 1934, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 1834, DrDolittle wrote:I think there is few scum on my wagon as they are content sitting back right now waiting out the deadline because there is no counterwagon threat.

on AF, I think this is maybe town?

In post 1779, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 1770, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 1767, Menalque wrote:if you think that scum is off wagon then can you just fucking lynch ddl with us so I can get the towncred I need to lead this game

hate to break it to you but a DDL scumflip is not how you're gonna get towncred from me

Seconding this, a find it strange that he thinks that'll get him towncred. At the same time, I think Mena knows that a DDL townflip would look bad on him so I don't think Mena is scum pushing a mislynch on town!DDL

Hmm, Datisi might be right about her tinfoil theory

In post 1835, DrDolittle wrote:although ss and alimedia are afk so idk

In post 1845, DrDolittle wrote:Pls lynch amrun day 3 after 2 town flips calling for her head. That is all

These are DDL's last posts at L-2 and under serious possibility of lynch. hasn't posted yet since intent to hammer. you really think this is all a townie cares to say as they're about to be rung up?

Last game I played with DDL where he was town he was a D1 Lynch in a Micro. here's his ISO from that game. Notice how much more aggressive he is giving out last thoughts/reads, and in general throughout.

Plus this post is fun:

"

I am meek as hell when I play scum what are you talking about

. I literally said in my last scum game, gosh people have scum agendas and plans and I'm just barely able to stay alive.

I want an appology from you after this game when I flip town if you are town too. what you are doing to me this game is entirely in bad faith."

this isn't the same DDL from that game.

In post 1991, GuiltyLion wrote:wait isn't Menalque saying they could be scum together tho, it's never scum!AF and town!DDL

In post 1994, Datisi wrote:i read 1980 and 1987 like 5 times each and i still don't get them but it's okay i'll reread them later

and Mena when I was the initiator of the Mena/DDL theatre theory your scum PT jokes are odd