Newbie 1471: Italian Ice (Game Over!)

Nachomamma8 · Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:38 pm

your turn sakura!

Nachomamma8 · Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:42 pm

Why would it be too obvious a kill if pisskop was scum?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:45 pm

Why do you think I could be scum?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:52 pm

In post 1672, pisskop wrote:Ff, he appeals to wisdom, explaining how W is too experienced to kill doc.

Where did I say this?
You didn't quote where I said Wisdom was too experienced to kill bjc, please explain

Nachomamma8 · Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:52 pm

In post 1672, pisskop wrote:Then he grabs that bjc kill iscontingent on him being a doctor

Actually, I said the opposite

Nachomamma8 · Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:56 pm

In post 1679, pisskop wrote:Nachohas a rather in-depth analysis of the nk already.

so...?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:56 pm

In post 1679, pisskop wrote:Wisdom/Nacho was not a T/T interaction

so when i flip town...
you're gonna go after wisdom?

Nachomamma8 · Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:26 pm

and dodging the prod
ffery, can we vote pisskop now?

Nachomamma8 · Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:27 pm

ffery, i would also point you as the reasonable one in this situation and i don't want a me-wisdom-pisskop lylo to occur because it's almost certainly a loss
don't let it happen

Nachomamma8 · Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:28 pm

i will reanalyze later but just be sure before you bring nacho-wis-kop upon the world

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:36 am

In post 1782, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1779, Nachomamma8 wrote:ffery, i would also point you as the reasonable one in this situation and i don't want a me-wisdom-pisskop lylo to occur because it's almost certainly a loss
don't let it happen
heh. A loss for which team?

my team
and i'm pretty fucking confident we're rooting for the same dudes, sooo

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:37 am

In post 1793, fferyllt wrote:I'm as good or better at spotting PRs than nacho is because I spot them via tells usually

you're far better than i am
i am picking up on tells more often, tho

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:39 am

In post 1794, pisskop wrote:Okay, but you are town right now.

Ill worry about you more if you're still here tomorrow.

somehow this reads as if you're trying to placate ffery by telling her that you'll be paranoid of her tomorrow
which sort of goes against your "town as fuck" read of earlier
which is another jump which doesn't really look great

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:40 am

In post 1815, pisskop wrote:
unvote

Nope thats the magic of transparency.

why did you unvote?

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:40 am

In post 1812, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1779, Nachomamma8 wrote:ffery, i would also point you as the reasonable one in this situation and i don't want a me-wisdom-pisskop lylo to occur because it's almost certainly a loss
don't let it happen
If that occurs it will certainly be a loss.. for you. Although I believe you'll keep ffery instead of me.

i would if i were scum but pisskop isn't dumb and thus it'll be you, me, and him
unless we lynch him today

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:41 am

In post 1811, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1777, Nachomamma8 wrote:and dodging the prod
ffery, can we vote pisskop now?

I can buy you being blind about sakura being scum.

You seriously don't see that pisskop is town?

out of the two of us, who has the better record of reading sakura again...?
and no, i don't see pisskop town anywhere and continue to be amazed others find towniness in the things he posts

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:42 am

but i guess i shouldn't be because newbies get underestimated all the fucking time and pisskop seems like a player who is going to be underrated a lot during his time here on site

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:53 am

man i wish sig bets were still a thing

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:54 am

vote me then. you know i read sakura a hell of a lot better than you do and we can't be scum together.
and pisskop is "obviously town", so.

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:03 am

do you know where we're wasting away, Wisdom?

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:03 am

In post 1775, GuyInFreezer wrote:
VC 3.04
Nachomamma8 (L-2):
pisskop

pisskop (L-2):
Nachomamma9

Sakura Hana (L-1):
Wisdom | Sakura Hana

Not Voting:
fferyllt

With 5 alive, 3 votes to lynch.

The deadline is March 3, 4:45 PM EST.
Countdown: (expired on 2014-03-03 16:45:00)

In post 1814, Wisdom wrote:I almost want to change back to Nacho, something feels genuine about sakura's latest posts

In post 1815, pisskop wrote:
unvote

Nope thats the magic of transparency.

Yes, pisskop, I did scroll all the way up.

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:03 am

In post 1830, fferyllt wrote:So nacho you feel good about Sakura? I can't tell.

I do.

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:11 am

In post 1834, pisskop wrote:@nacho the quote was for mod.

Why did you say my name, then?

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:12 am

In post 1835, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1833, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1830, fferyllt wrote:So nacho you feel good about Sakura? I can't tell.
I do.
Where did my read go wrong?

I don't really understand how your read happened, honestly.

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:14 am

In post 1836, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1834, pisskop wrote:@nacho the quote was for mod.
Why did you say my name, then?

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:55 am

In post 1840, pisskop wrote:I want conformation you are caught up.

Why is hana town?

How does saying my name give you confirmation that I'm caught up...?

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:55 am

And why did you unvote where you did?

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:56 am

Ffery, why do you think scum-Sakura would be more likely to go "whoops, I forgot to sort ffery" than town Sakura?

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:57 am

In post 1845, Wisdom wrote:Both look scummy to me. I can't buy Nacho doesn't see you are town. But then I can't buy Sakura was praising me for tunneling. Sakura has replaced out of games because of my tunneling and now she tells me I have a head.

Whatever. Let's lynch them both.

Why is pisskop town?

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:00 am

In post 588, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 587, TierShift wrote:I want explanations on the bjc and ed reads when you're done, I'm having a hard time choosing and it doesn't feel like a bus from bjc there.
Sure will, but so far i have seen people questioning the lurker lynch and im surprised i havent been asked why im scumreading him.

This is an awkward position for scum-Sakura to take. In this case, she's jumping in the game and I immediately jumps on the lurker lynch wagon, no one questions it. Her response is to prod people to ask them about it, which is again a strange reason for her: it requires scum Sakura to be "excited" about her reasoning for lynching a lurker who posted absolutely nothing which I don't think is the case.

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:04 am

In post 590, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 585, bjc wrote:Your predecessor was voting a guy about to be replaced IIRC, please help make an ED wagon.

You will see I'm not as scummy as I appear.
While im reading 463 looked pretty awkward to me, it looks like you learned a new word and decided to peg it as an added reason to your case because you felt like it, which I see TS pegged you for that.

Anyway I also have work to do so im reading slowly for the time being, when it's lunch break i'll be done most likely.

PEd. Because I think I know why Nacho's onto him, considering i've hydra'd with Nacho before and I've learned some of his scumhunting tactics, which are known as godly by most ppl on this site that know him.

Bolder is the below the surface scumhunting you were looking for earlier, ffery.

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:06 am

In post 645, Sakura Hana wrote:Well weekend's coming hopefully i can hear from Nacho and he starts showing me his PoV and I can start working with him and Ray since those 2 are my strongest reads atm. And then we form a nice happy townbloc and PoE the hell out of scum and win \o\ \o/ /o/

This also seems like a remarkably ballsy position for Sakura to take: it also makes her reaction to me being on Ray's lynxh wagon a bit better.

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:08 am

In post 661, Sakura Hana wrote:Nacho, i know you're around so please come here and give me your thoughts and stuff.

Also, one thing that I noticed in my interactions it's Sakura in Tales is that she never initiated the dance. Sure, she bothered me about it when I said a dance was due, but this has a different tone to it (nacho, come talk to me as opposed to her attempting to prove herself). It's happened multiple times, in Mistakes fashion.

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:08 am

In post 1854, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1848, Nachomamma8 wrote:Ffery, why do you think scum-Sakura would be more likely to go "whoops, I forgot to sort ffery" than town Sakura?
It's not saying "whoops" it's actually not sorting that pinged.

What did you expect to see of Sakura's sorting process?

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:22 am

In post 1858, pisskop wrote:She is lying about doctor. tgeres only a 50% of there even being a doctor. she has no crumbs, but claimed scum saw her crumbs.

She self voted directly after I said I wouldnt quick hammer.

shes scum nacho. Shell die today or tomorrow.

There's like a 33% chance of there being a doctor. What's your point? Why aren't you answering my questions? Why would you ask me why I think Hana is town if you don't care about my reasoning?

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:23 am

In post 1857, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1856, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1854, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1848, Nachomamma8 wrote:Ffery, why do you think scum-Sakura would be more likely to go "whoops, I forgot to sort ffery" than town Sakura?
It's not saying "whoops" it's actually not sorting that pinged.
What did you expect to see of Sakura's sorting process?
I expected her to bug me for input, reads, analysis. This was intentionally a lower-content entrance.

What do you think of her sorting me?
Why do you think that you're alive?

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:33 am

Wisdom, have I ever given you the wink?

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:38 am

Think more... player specific for why you're alive.

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:42 am

And don't answer, of course, just keep that at the forefront of your head and know that I'm keeping it at the forefront of mine.

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:43 am

What do you think of the exchange between pisskop and I?

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:52 am

In post 1868, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1866, Nachomamma8 wrote:What do you think of the exchange between pisskop and I?
Once things quiet down I'm going to review all of the interactions between you two.

I am sorry you have to put up with loud disturbing things.
I also have to put up with loud disturbing things

Nachomamma8 · Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:22 am

In post 1862, Nachomamma8 wrote:Wisdom, have I ever given you the wink?

that was pretty funny though

Nachomamma8 · Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:01 am

In post 1876, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1875, Sakura Hana wrote:Nacho, doesn't kop's posts today strike you as town?
I can't even tell who you're scumreading now.

In post 1875, Sakura Hana wrote:Nacho, doesn't kop's posts today strike you as town?

You know, people keep telling me I should townread him and I repeatedly ask for a reason why and no one has been able to deliver to my satisfaction or even attempted at it.

No, his posts today don't strike me as town.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:49 pm

In post 1880, pisskop wrote:What do you want from me?

I tell you its hana. if Im still here tomorrow Ill reassess my read on you. Im not interested on blindly lynching you.

I want you to say things that don't look like you're just setting me up for the mislynch tomorrow.
I want someone to explain why you're being universally townread when you aren't really seeming to do anything at all worth those townreads.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:00 pm

In post 1881, pisskop wrote:Now, you keep telling me she's town because you can read her so well. And she says you're obvtown because of that one time at band camp.

Im telling you youre not obvtown. your play here is no better than any other game.

Shes not town. Do you think Wisdom is town?

Do you think the reasons I gave you amounted to "I can read her well"? Last time I checked, I actually said a little bit more than that. What would also help alleviate my scumread on you is if you would explain the last exchange to me and answer my questions there, and also if you stop crap where you oversimplify positions that I take, which seems to be a habit you picked up that I really haven't noticed elsewhere.

I am obvtown, and you can't tell me otherwise. As scum, I would have redirected the wagon onto my buddy for no fucking reason despite me not bussing overly hard in newbie games (especially Day 1, where the mislynches are plentiful and cops, jailkeepers, trackers all have a tendency to investigate me if they don't feel overly sure about me). I have been hitting my town notes this game: this hasn't been a game where I've been lagging, particularly hard to read, playing weird. Night kills additionally make no fucking sense for me: again, don't expect you to see it, but the evidence is still there.

I'm not really understanding why you brought this up, though. Do you believe that my town and scum metas are identical?

Yes, I think Wisdom is town. I also think ffery is town. I also think Sakura is town. I think you are scum.
Apologies if that wasn't clear enough before.

Nachomamma8 · Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:33 am

That was the toniest thing you've said all day.

Nachomamma8 · Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:34 am

In post 1884, pisskop wrote:oversimplifying? lul. I figured you knew me better already. oversimplifying is something I do when Im irritated. Scumkop would not have tried to keep dialogue with you for so long today. If you are town She is scum, with like a 10% error to keep Wisdom in this. I saw her emotion appeal to you, and Im willing to bet shed played her meta or a past game.

Im not getting lynched today. you dont have the support. Now Ill reread d3 for important Qs but if she is scum Im going to laugh at the egg.

This was, not your last post. Your last post is quite possibly just wrong.

Nachomamma8 · Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:23 am

In post 1888, pisskop wrote:Because I didnt want a lynch yet. I would still rather have you onboard the Hana wagon than lynch you.

i still don't understand.
you unvoted me because you didn't want to lynch me? after saying Hana looked town?

In post 1888, pisskop wrote:Explain. If Im scum, why is she here?

who?

Nachomamma8 · Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:54 am

yes i think hana is the doctor
what?

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:06 pm

abbott/sakura snowed me pretty fucking thoroughly

Nachomamma8 · Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:07 pm

in case anyone didn't figure that one out
kudos to ffery for standing her ground!
kudos to wisdom for stopping tunneling