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Post Post #592 (isolation #200) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:35 pm

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That quickhammer is the biggest piece of bullshit I saw. We got outplayed hard for everythig else, but that one...god.
That set up 2 VT kills that really cost a lot.

Beeboy, are u healthy again yet? (:

pedit: i might have not trusted you if fox hadn't said what they did. I was 90% sure I could trust them.
We still would have lost tho. I personally got outplayed, and there was a random quickhammer, AND the only experienced player I could have trusted came down sick.
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Post Post #594 (isolation #201) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:39 pm

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I read every single possible thing wrong. Fml
I really ought to sleep but I'm wired af

Honestly yeah this game was incredibly short.
Random quickhammer->Complete consensus->lylo
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That does explain why they all took 2 days...
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Post Post #598 (isolation #202) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:43 pm

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Ok, no. I'm going to bed.

Would love some feedback in the morning but people have stuff to do I'm sure

PEdit: Idk can't wait to get scum ngl
I'm going to play the exact same way with no regard towards my partner except in search of a PR
OK i really need to sleep
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Post Post #620 (isolation #203) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:55 am

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Yeah, I was trying to get a vote at the bottom of the page then an unvote on the next page to fuck with the scum, but i couldn't get it quite right..
I even got top post and second post -.-
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Post Post #621 (isolation #204) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:57 am

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WOW.
Rask even when ranger died they didn't think you were scum.

Jeez.
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Post Post #624 (isolation #205) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:01 am

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Uh yeah.
Having an IC/SE closer to me who, y'know, /wasn't scum/ would've been super handy.
So in that sense it was a good play
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Post Post #625 (isolation #206) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:02 am

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Btw fox, why would you peek me over, say, sick on N1?
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Post Post #627 (isolation #207) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:06 am

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Oh wtf
And here i thought I explained myself

Smfh

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I got 10 pagetops so I win by default.
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Post Post #628 (isolation #208) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:08 am

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I know but why meeee
Why not you?
How the heck would I have a higher chance of hiding stuff than you? In terms of danger SE>>>>>>>newb
Fox could've solved the game with that
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Post Post #630 (isolation #209) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:10 am

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Literally the ONLY team I wouldn'tve seen was you two
I might have even believed beeboy mh once beeboy claimed VT
this whole time i thought they were doc
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Post Post #631 (isolation #210) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:15 am

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Been wanting to post this since N1
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Post Post #633 (isolation #211) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:19 am

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I seriously just don't know what I could've done; you guys played a disgustingly good game
And you two were the main ones pushing me
Like wtf
Do you think fox should've outed themself?
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Post Post #636 (isolation #212) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:31 am

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Lmao i'll use that in the future
But was pointless d2 b/c we all wanted to policy lynch/obv lynch vandit
And then d3 was lylo, no new reads in play, just a bunch of this:
Beeboy=?????
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Mh=conftown?????
Sick=scum?????
Me=obvtown/conftown???
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Post Post #637 (isolation #213) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:32 am

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At that point, I trusted no one
Of course the 2 ppl I trusted slightly more were the f***ing mafia

On a side note I did just find a lit electronic song album b/c I was triggered all last night so thanks you two
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Post Post #638 (isolation #214) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:35 am

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No, fox outing me as inno would have changed a good deal of stuff
For one, it would've prompted me to go back to looking at you
Also, sick wouldn't have been flailing against me d3 which could've easily gone a not beeboy route
And sick could've convinced me mh was scum because obviously I was confused as shit about that the whole day
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Post Post #643 (isolation #215) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:41 am

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Actually yeah
Specificalky for the reason that he wouldn't have been flailing
That made him scummy in my eyes, making me completely inflexible in not voting for him

Honestly the biggest hint was when you came online and then weren't posting reads mh
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Post Post #644 (isolation #216) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:42 am

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In post 639, mhsmith0 wrote:Lol smith for thinking FOX peeked vandit :oops:
Lol reading the two mafia as the towniest
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Post Post #646 (isolation #217) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:49 am

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Especially since beeboy was busy/gone
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Post Post #648 (isolation #218) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:52 am

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Sick y
Ok wow so you're telling me I could've gotten 50% scumteam if sick didn't immediately vote
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Post Post #651 (isolation #219) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:57 am

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Because I had nothing to judge mh on the whole game aside from fox's judgemment
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Post Post #652 (isolation #220) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:58 am

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In post 650, mhsmith0 wrote:Btw, sick was generically the optimal peek, but not for the reason you think. Want to guess as to why sick made the most sense?
Because the alignment wasn't clear?

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Post Post #658 (isolation #221) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:19 am

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Also I probably would've policy lynched vandit anyway
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Post Post #662 (isolation #222) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:09 am

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Same sick
Maybe one but no way the team
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Post Post #663 (isolation #223) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:06 am

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Just so you know, we finished before game 1699.
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Post Post #666 (isolation #224) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:53 am

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In post 665, beeboy wrote:Newbie games are really cutthroat honestly >_>
I feel as though regular games are 100x less daunting then most newbie games.
That's why I wish there was a general matrix6 queue
I like the setup a bunch but once I'm better at this I want to play with other people I know on a setup I like e.e
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Post Post #669 (isolation #225) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:20 am

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What I learned from this is that day 1 needs to be the longest because you can get everyone's input cleanly in for later reference. If we had been given more time without the quickhammer we would have perhaps had a better chance since ranger would've been able to read further. Furthermore, all the lurky people would have had to come out of hiding, and replacements would be able to be much more scrutinized with everyone alive. I mean, ranger never even got a chance to /see/ mh.
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Post Post #675 (isolation #226) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:21 am

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why are you here jae
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Post Post #679 (isolation #227) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:34 am

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I get why experienced players make alts now
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Post Post #684 (isolation #228) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:24 pm

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Rip my feedback
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Post Post #691 (isolation #229) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:41 pm

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rip ranger feedback smfh
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Post Post #695 (isolation #230) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:26 pm

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In post 694, mhsmith0 wrote:@zyf: one thing that may help... WHY did you town read me/rask? What did we do to earn your trust? If you wanna talk through that, it's a first step towards figuring out what went wrong (and then from there, what can be improved).
You was pretty easy, I thought you were cop peek.

Rask...iunno. Tone, I guess? At the end of this game I still had yet to experience scum play myself (now i have), so I may have done some things differently?
It also could have been involuntary poe. Beeboy was just...out of it, and sick...well, you know how scummy he seemed to me.

Tbqh still irked at rask for the twilight troll.
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Post Post #699 (isolation #231) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:18 pm

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No i think you summarized roughly how I ended up seeing it.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #232) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:04 pm

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In post 700, mhsmith0 wrote:A bit more on tone/emotion for the curious (and I'll admit that I AM NOT good at this, but like I said, some people are). Key paragraph blown up
I don't have time to adequately respond to that post but one thing I can say quickly is that when I'm talking about emotions, I'm specifically excluding anger. It's the easiest emotion to fake and it's one that is often not alignment-indicative even when it is genuine, unless it can be traced to an origin in something distinctly villagery.

Emotions like pride, paranoia, surprise, suspicion, etc, are more difficult to fake. Wolves often fail to even identify spots in which emotion should be present in their posting, and their efforts at actually displaying more complex emotions are often quite clumsy, for example by stating their supposed feelings rather than displaying them
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But in the case of Cron, a lot of what was clearing for him was just the sheer depth and breadth of his reads and interactions. It's just hard to fake that much content so quickly and make it sound good. And few wolves are ever going to stalk other players' online statuses in order to catch lurkers.
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