Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:25 am
Read it yourself.In post 2224, Nero Cain wrote:I'm skimming? ok, if I were skimming then I'd have no reason to ask for a tl;dr.
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Read it yourself.In post 2224, Nero Cain wrote:I'm skimming? ok, if I were skimming then I'd have no reason to ask for a tl;dr.
You've only read the number of pages. I'm floored at the shallowness of your reading.In post 2224, Nero Cain wrote:I'm skimming? ok, if I were skimming then I'd have no reason to ask for a tl;dr.
Actually, do read it, Nero Cain. Besides the first 30 pages, the last 30 pages have been the most important so far and features a lot of game shifts. They can't be summarized easily as there has been a lot of nuanced play.In post 2226, Kublai Khan wrote:You've only read the number of pages. I'm floored at the shallowness of your reading.In post 2224, Nero Cain wrote:I'm skimming? ok, if I were skimming then I'd have no reason to ask for a tl;dr.
Have you shown why you think Nero is scum? If so, could you redirect me? If not, could you tell me? It seems like a novel, and maybe slightly random, read.In post 2181, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:But a Nero lynch is better. C'mon Nacho.
I will when I get to that part, but I think you would have a vested interest in understanding your wagon.In post 2230, Nachomamma8 wrote:After you're done reading, you tell me.
In post 1202, Bacde wrote:He's acting likeIn post 1200, Thor665 wrote:Link or restatement of your case on Nacho?In post 1193, Bacde wrote:Smurf you guys are gonna let scumcho right through your fingersyoudo when you are scum
you know, he's acting like an experienced scum player
his scumreads are few and far between
his only posts are purposely constructed to appear town without actually doing tough town work
he tunneled on the worst case I've ever seen nacho tunnel on in my life
and he was convinced about it
and now that no one followed him on the OS case, he is acting like it never happened
he isn't addressing me as though I have a real case because he wants to sweep this under the rug (and he knows I'm serious about this read and he knows that I can build a smurfing bandwagon by myself), yet he is addressing everyone else and their points
here's the thing--OSCOULDbe scum, but its something that Nacho hopped on extremely excitedly with no regard for anything else because he needs to latch on to SOMETHING to push to pretend like he is town
its the same way that in 1393 you latched on to AP making a small "lie" about whether he had read into your meta deeply or if he had skimmed your games--the point really doesn't smurfing matter that much but a scum will push it like dragon eggs because they don't want to have to think about the game analytically
also he proposed a massclaim on d1 for no reason and pushed that
nacho is being cheeky scum right now and people are letting him get away with it
In post 1422, Bacde wrote:Nacho knows that his more recent posts are better,In post 1420, thezmon221 wrote:Yes, I've played with Nacho before.
I also considered Ceph to be null, so that part isn't exactly an issue. His read overall has been a tossup for me. I felt he had good motivation in his posts, but Jiffy convinced me of a light for other posts of him, which is why he's null and not one way or the other. He showed a distaste for fuzzy when fuzzy made the unnecessary, and rather opportunistic pseudo-contribution, post, which I'm all for. Whether he would have voted if I didn't or not, I won't know, but I don't feel the sheep is explicitly a scummy sheep regardless.
Besides, we still have almost a week, so we have time. The fact of the matter is, I don't think Nacho is a good enough lynch at this point in time. His beginning was crap, but I like his recent posts, even if I don't agree with them.
<<< Actually, it's over a week--almost two weeks, in fact. Deadline for D1 was set at three weeks, not two, meaning you've still got a week and a half (12 days as of this edit) left. Deadline isn't next Monday, but the Monday after that. >>>that's why he made them
but nothing in his recent posts screamed townAND YOU'D BETTER BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY NACHO MAKES POSTS THAT SCREAM TOWN
the entire purpose of his "reads" posts was just to get more townreads from people not confident enough to lynch him
did you notice how nacho asked me if I saw a "keyword" or something in his posts? He was trying to act like he was confident that I wasn't reading his posts (even though I've been reading every letter). The entire way nacho is ignoring the wagon on him and ESPECIALLY ignoring meSCREAMSscum-nacho, and the way CTD is misrepresenting every aspect of my posts screams scum-partner
There's a reason nacho's play improved (only slightly) RIGHT AFTER I started this bandwagon on him for him having shitty posts. ITS. BECAUSE. NACHO. IS. SCUM.
PS--just wanted to add this in because I was thinking about how shitty CTD is at representing me. If I was ever "backing off" nacho, then why was I so insistent that he be vigged? And why did I never unvote him? Oh, I guess I was never backing off him in the first place
In post 1514, Bacde wrote:Does anyone else see how nacho makes a post like this, and then a bunch of townsfolk all say "WTF IT WAS PRIDE?! SCREW THAT! WE CAN'T LYNCH NACHO"In post 1503, Nachomamma8 wrote:Pride.In post 1494, Bulbazak wrote:If you are town, do you know how stupid this is? You're basically saying you're willing to put town down -4 if you're wrong. Where's the town motivation in that?
Trust me, nacho knows what he's doing, and nacho knows how to play scum
Guys, it wasn't pride
Pride has absolutely nothing to do with it
NACHO. IS. SCUM.
thats all there is to it
If ANYTHING, it has more to do with experimentation than pride, I'm experimenting with a new style
I like to call it "anti-scum to the extreme"
In post 1516, Bacde wrote:Nacho isn't playing to "out his reads" or "find scum" this game, he'smanipulating people(and he can do it with one word even as shown w/ the pride post)
that is not the way town-nacho plays
Look at these two posts intended to manipulate me using fear out of my push on nacho:
In post 1478, Nachomamma8 wrote:Mollie, Bacde, I'm not screaming at you guys for being idiots this game because you do have a point because I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet. It's not that I'm lacking motivation for this game and it isn't that I'm being useless (that's bullshit, Bacde), but I definitely am not being as aggressive and on point this game because I just don't have things worked out yet. I have a pretty good scumread in Desperado, a pretty decent town core, but I don't feel comfortable with the game to the point that I usually do. Although, Bacde:
If I flip town, you're living in my scumlist for a while. You owe me that much.In post 1459, Bacde wrote:if nacho flips town you are suspect #1Also, why has he forgotten about this:In post 1483, Nachomamma8 wrote:Will you?If he wants me to follow his reads, why isn't he pushing them harder? If he wants me to follow his reads, why does he keep saying to me "No you have a point I haven't been playing as well as I'd like this game"In post 1487, Nachomamma8 wrote:That's fucking stupid. I want you to follow my reads.
Guys, excuses like that are scummy on their own. But when he simultaneously says that he's unhappy with his reads, but ALSO wants me to follow his reads?
Scum.
In post 1777, Bacde wrote:In post 1478, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet.In post 1487, Nachomamma8 wrote:That's fucking stupid. I want you to follow my reads.In post 1478, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet.In post 1487, Nachomamma8 wrote:That's fucking stupid. I want you to follow my reads.In post 1478, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet.In post 1487, Nachomamma8 wrote:That's fucking stupid. I want you to follow my reads.In post 1478, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet.VOTE: NachoIn post 1487, Nachomamma8 wrote:That's fucking stupid. I want you to follow my reads.
I'm actually pretty interested in hearing how you interpret my wagon. I've talked about my wagon enough in previous posts that it's sort of a waste to do it again, but I'm interested in what conclusions you reach about it.In post 2234, PeregrineV wrote:I will when I get to that part, but I think you would have a vested interest in understanding your wagon.
I knew it wouldn't last.In post 2236, Bacde wrote:sorry to make you stop flying nacho, its just that you have a scum PM
yeah scum are good at manipulating me in most of my games tbhIn post 2238, Nachomamma8 wrote:I knew it wouldn't last.In post 2236, Bacde wrote:sorry to make you stop flying nacho, its just that you have a scum PM
How I interpret it is less important than how you do. If you are lynched and town, we have honest info. If you are not town, we have info.In post 2237, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm actually pretty interested in hearing how you interpret my wagon. I've talked about my wagon enough in previous posts that it's sort of a waste to do it again, but I'm interested in what conclusions you reach about it.In post 2234, PeregrineV wrote:I will when I get to that part, but I think you would have a vested interest in understanding your wagon.
Because he hasn't done shit, he's been active-lurking through the game, hasn't participated meaningfully in any way with anyone or anything, and is voting us for a joke post.In post 2190, Cephrir wrote:I guess I should at least give you a chance. B&B, why Nero?