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↑ Kthxbye wrote:He thinks its awesome.

No I don't.

@Jenn: Kthx claims that there is no read to go off on other than gut at this point. Slandaar claims that town should not need a read and that gut is enough to vote. Kthx didn't endorse using gut while Slandaar claimed that that's the only thing you need.

Hi again, guys.

↑ Om wrote:@GM; Correct me if I'm wrong; but you're calling out Jen for thinking my exchange with Slandaar was town/town and didn't unvote Elleran to vote one of use when you think it was Town/town too?

I didn't say that, I said the excuse vs reason debate doesn't strike me as the scummiest thing that's happened in this game so far.
I didn't even mention you in regards to that post, why would you think I did?


Sorry I haven't posted in a while, some things I'm looking at in earnest right now:
-Slandaar - newest vote
-kthx - what?
-Ztife - extra what?
-Elleran - some vague stuff in more recent posting

@Elleran Eh? Kthx voted me just based off 'gut'? So how is that not endorsing gut? He's not a newbie.

@Jenn: Oh you're talking about this post:

↑ Kthxbye wrote:Ok, so caught up and I have a noob-town read on Joel, a town read on Slandaar, and a leaning scum read on Jennifer. All are mostly gut from the reading thus far. I don't like that Trollie has yet to do anything and I don't like the Om wagon. I'll...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jennifer

I must have missed it on the first read because I apparently did not respond to it at all. O_O

@Kthxbye: Can you explain each of your read (Joel, Slandaar, and Jenn)? You claimed that they were all mostly gut and that there isn't enough info day 1, but something about their posts must have caused you to have these gut feeling.

@Kthx also, since we're talking, why have you still not commented on what you find wrong with the Om wagon? And what do you find wrong with it?

(On a side note, really good job for your first modded game =P

I guess the Mini is just too big. Budum Tss.

I'm struggling really bad on whether to move my vote to Ztife or keep it on Joel. I think for now I'll keep it on joel till he posts.

Also, Slandaar vs. Elleran looks like a town vs. town situation. Both sides of the argument are accurate, and I actually agree with both sides, I think to accurately scum hunt you need to find reasons while having a gut feeling to support these reasons.

Joel still needs to repond and Ztife really needs to explain himself. Even if it was just a mistake, not taking the care to read through the thread and look at the vote counts is scummy to say the least.

↑ Elleran wrote:

↑ Kthxbye wrote:He thinks its awesome.

No I don't.

@Jenn: Kthx claims that there is no read to go off on other than gut at this point. Slandaar claims that town should not need a read and that gut is enough to vote. Kthx didn't endorse using gut while Slandaar claimed that that's the only thing you need.

Oooooh, that's not what I meant. Let me clarrify, I said that there is nothing but gut meaning that on Day 1 there is no concrete evidence. This means there is no analysis to be had than to analyze what your gut is saying about a persons posts. I stand by that all D1 reads are gut, but this doesn't mean that your gut doesn't get the info from somewhere. Make sense? I just choose to try and not take one post and make it fit a scummy vibe and go after that person for it, I choose to take the sum of posts and see what my gut tells me about them (seem forced, fake, mis-rep'ed, etc).

@Ell: No i can't, it's a vibe I get from reading them as a whole. I've explained my process and if you don't like it, vote me.

@Jenn: I get a town feeling from reading Om so a wagon on him is dumb?

So i've read exactly one page of this game. This is what i have to say:

↑ Elleran wrote:Don't you guys know that trolls regenerate?

Vote: q21

I hate numbers that are divisible by 7.

id correct you on what my name is but DRK already did that for me

↑ Dannflor wrote:

↑ Elleran wrote:Don't you guys know that trolls regenerate?

Are you defending him?

don't like this, +scum points

↑ q21 wrote:Since q is letter 17 of the alphabet the numeric value of my username is obviously 38. Since this isn't divisible by 7, Elleran's vote for me is clearly based on bogus logic as he scummily tries to pull the wool over the town's eyes. This cannot be allowed to stand.

vote: Elleran

Also, OMGUS!

town

↑ DeathRowKitty wrote:This is TheTrollie's profile. Note the avatar. Trolley cars do not regenerate. You are now free to ride the wagon, Elleran.

this

↑ Jennifer wrote:Hey, all.

VOTE: Dannflor

@Dannflor Why are you avoiding the Trollie wagon? And why did you keep your vote on Slaandar when questioning Elleran for defending Trollie?

Also, town points to Kitty Frog for loving town.
Scum points to Kitty Frog for loving scum.

i have no recollection of what i wanted to say about this. Oh, maybe that its bad because asking why hes "avoiding" the trollie wagon is a bad fake attempt at scumhunting

↑ Elleran wrote:Aren't we all looking excuses for everything?

BAD

↑ Kthxbye wrote:I like wagons and being opportunistic.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Trollie
I also hate Trains and what they represent.

fuck i started this post like 5 hrs ago i forgot what i wanted to say to this as well. I think this is town.

↑ Elleran wrote:

↑ Jennifer wrote:@Elleran Why did you cave to pressure to hop on the Trollie wagon?

↑ Elleran wrote:Aren't we all looking excuses for everything?

No, we're looking for scum.

1) There was no pressure to hop on the Trollie wagon -- only Mr.Frog's brilliance. However, I did see that TheTrollie was in fact a train and I wanted a ride.

2) To find scum, we must find good excuses for our actions.

the only person who was pressuring ppl to hop on my wagon was jennifer. i dont like Jennifer, or elleran. Also dont like dannflor. Unfortunately its near impossible that all of those are scum due to the interactions above.

i dont vote until I catch up in games but right now my psudo vote is on jennifer.

↑ TheTrollie wrote:don't like this, +scum points

Just to clarify, that accusation was about as serious as Elleran's "Doncha know trolls regenerate?". However it did lead to something bigger after Elleran jumped on your wagon.

I've skimmed the stuff since my last post. I'll post something more productive tonight when I've actually slept in the past 24 hours, but for now it looks like there are a lot of trivial misunderstandings causing a big fuss. The frog don't like it >: (

P234 was a waste of time to read. Trollie, why would you analyze rvs.....like ever?

↑ Kthxbye wrote:P234 was a waste of time to read. Trollie, why would you analyze rvs.....like ever?

Trollie said that he only read the very first page... (which doesn't help him here, but it's relevant)

↑ Rondar wrote:

@Mod I'm really sorry, but could you replace me? I'm barely able to stick to my Micro game, and I just got a wave of work to do. I think I'll do more harm by sticking to the game.

(On a side note, really good job for your first modded game =P

↑ Elleran wrote:

↑ Kthxbye wrote:P234 was a waste of time to read. Trollie, why would you analyze rvs.....like ever?

Trollie said that he only read the very first page... (which doesn't help him here, but it's relevant)

Yes, this was my point. Why spend time analyzing rvs if you're limited on time trollie?

are you fucking kidding me...why do you think we have RVS in the first place. Its where all the fucking scum are like "derp derp, its RVS so no one will care what i do" and then they do stupid shit.

updates from pg 3

↑ joelsdaman1 wrote:DeathRowKitty concerns me. Post 66, 65 and 59 are all weird.

Why be so serious about removing the RVS, then tell someone to "lighten up"? It's odd. Please explain.

No need to be concerned. DRK is town.

↑ Elleran wrote:Actually, I

do

see what Mr.Frog is talking about in the past that Jenn wrote. Jenn was shown a short evidence about Dannflor's suspicion on myself and Jenn responded by simply saying "Fair enough" then changing her vote on to me.

I disagree with Mr.Frog's quick change of votes, though. He made up his mind about Jenn on one of Jenn's earliest post in this thread. I smell scumminess from her post as well, but not nearly strong enough to be worth changing my vote to.

On the other hand, the fact that Mr.Frog changed his position so quickly

and

so confidently concerns me. Please explain your evaluation of the post you linked? If it's nothing beyond what I'm getting from it, your reaction was too much.

SCUM. SCUM. SCUMMMMMMM.

only problem is that the p1 jen/elleran interaction didn't seem like bussing...

P4

↑ Kthxbye wrote:Btw, not even close to caught up in this game. Been skimming along.

leaning town

↑ joelsdaman1 wrote:

↑ DeathRowKitty wrote:

↑ joelsdaman1 wrote:DRK, why did you change votes so quickly?

I don't know, man. I really thought my first vote was onto some deep mysteries of the universe and it pained me deeply to change it. If not for the wild hallucinations that told me to vote Jennifer instead, I probably would have ridden that Trollie vote to my grave.

Quid pro quo doc, why haven't you voted anyone? Do you feel your vote is better used doing nothing?

Actually...that's pretty fair.

Still looking around, haven't decided yet. I see no point in randomly voting at this point.

town

↑ Om wrote:4 pages overnight? really? -_-

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↑ Elleran wrote:2) To find scum, we must find good excuses for our actions.

Skimming though, I don't like this thought process. I still don't see you replying to q21's comment on it. Or did I miss it?

Early read; Dannflor & q21 looks good for town.

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↑ Slandaar wrote:

↑ Dannflor wrote:
I want Slaandar to post.

Why?

Why not?

↑ Slandaar wrote:Do you think voting me will increase the chance that I will post?

It should. Because I'm seriously not liking whatever you've posted so far and it reeks scummy.

↑ Slandaar wrote:GoodMorning; Do you like playing town? Do you like playing scum? which is your favourite? why?

And to top it off with pointless RQS questions?
GG

Vote: Slandaar

Om's leaning town. I think the more i read the stronger of an impression ill get.

↑ Elleran wrote:

↑ Dannflor wrote:Elleran. I don't want any of your stupid excuse argument. I just want a straight answer. Why did you turn around and decide The Trollie was a better target than q21? If I'm not mistaken you were beating him is Mathia... I don't understand how MrFrog could have changed your mind so easily.

If you haven't noticed from all my brilliant posts, it was a complete random change for no good reason at all. I'm honestly getting bored from all of this grilling about changing my vote to Trollie on the first page of the game.

note: need to go back to this post once im done catching up

↑ TheTrollie wrote:are you fucking kidding me...why do you think we have RVS in the first place. Its where all the fucking scum are like "derp derp, its RVS so no one will care what i do" and then they do stupid shit.

Yeah...uh...I do this as town.

↑ Kthxbye wrote:

↑ TheTrollie wrote:are you fucking kidding me...why do you think we have RVS in the first place. Its where all the fucking scum are like "derp derp, its RVS so no one will care what i do" and then they do stupid shit.

Yeah...uh...I do this as town.

I think a lot of people derp during RVS...

The "derping" around people do in RVS, often leads the game out of RVS. Simply because derps can be interpreted as scummy, and can lead to the eventual catching scum. It's distinguishing the town derps and the scum derps that counts.

↑ Dannflor wrote:The "derping" around people do in RVS, often leads the game out of RVS. Simply because derps can be interpreted as scummy, and can lead to the eventual catching scum. It's distinguishing the town derps and the scum derps that counts.

at least someone understands this game

Town:
DRK
q21
joel

(in that order)

i changed my mind, elleran is leaning town -- too care-free to be scum.

VOTE: jennifer

I want everyone's explicit reads on Jen & elleran in their next posts pls