In post 210, Morning Tweet wrote:Enomis is either a demoralized player who feels like he has no options today but wants to keep playing so he's blindly voting group #2, or he's acting out that character. I feel like this is a bad course of action for scum to take. I'd expect scum to find ways to scumread clidd and ABR, not claim "I don't want to die" and more or less give up
I think town would try to scumhunt so that they wouldn't be the lynch though
- Daenerys
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 4:24 pm
by Daenerys and Dragons
like he claims he's demoralized and can use that to be lazy and not try to scumhunt
In post 191, dsjstr wrote:Lets say worst case scenario there were 0 mafia in group 3. Then the setup would be limited to either 3-0-0, 2-1-0, or 1-2-0. I don't think that is the case and originally I was leaning towards group three because it would be the safest option now I think
there is mafia in the group.
VOTE: Group 3
Why do you think it isn't 2-1-0? actually fypov, 2-1-0 should be equally likely to 2-0-1 if you're town, right....
Who is mafia in your group?
That was a hypothetical and if group 3 was all town then it would do a minimal amount of damage while limiting the possible setups. I think it is 1-0-2 or 0-1-2!
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 4:26 pm
by dsjstr
But that might just be because I can never trust teammates. Their actions seem either weird or opportunistic.
you clearly said you think there's mafia in group 3, so who did you mean when you said that?
- Daenerys
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 4:37 pm
by dsjstr
GROUP 3:
dsjstr
enomis
Mohab500
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 4:39 pm
by Daenerys and Dragons
why do you think enomis and mohab are both scum?
- Daenerys
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 4:43 pm
by Kanna
In post 168, Hoctac wrote:Ame is probably town for her conspiracy theory. Knowing she was Paragon is interesting though, she felt completely different in that game.
you mean this? can you explain it and why you found it townie?
In post 120, Ame wrote:I think it's fairly likely that there are 2 scum in group 1, but not 3. I don't buy this reasoning from Albert.
or Kanna
Elaborate?
@Ame; can you answer my questions? specifically what went on in that first weird interaction and elaborate on the second one. does this mean you find me/ABR *thinking* this to be disingenuous or do you *disagree* with the theory?
fwiw, i would also put all scum in group 1 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 4:55 pm
by dsjstr
Part of that has to do with the slip I saw,
In post 13, Morning Tweet wrote:First impressions: i feel that it is unlikely scum placed 2 of themselves in group 2, or 2 of themselves in group 3
That seems like a lot of risk, because at a glance you'd expect us to probably pick group 2 or 3 for the lynch, and it'd be hard to stop it if one of those groups gained traction. all it would take is one scummy member in the group and you'd lose that group and 2/3rds of the scumteam
Whereas if you placed 2+ scum inside group one, it'd likely be easier to steer the lynch away from one to one of the smaller groups.
after all, there's at least 5 town in group one and im sure at least some of them would not want to die
I just realized while writing this that if we lynch group one, and there's zero scum in there, we lose the game immediately. ack!
I just noticed that MT referred to the town as "them" when saying that there are at least 5 town in group 1 and they should not vote for their own group. This seems weird to me and looks like MT could have slipped. If they are town then they
would have included them self as part of the town. Instead he talks about town being other people, now what does this have to do with group 3? If you look at MT's first read list you will notice that Mohab is the only strong town read. I personally
don't see the reasoning to be strong Mohab could have just faked that he wanted to lynch his own group and then he actually does change his vote. MT continues to town read him as they both switch over to group 2 which had gained some traction.
Just realized that group 2 is also at L-3, but basically I am scum reading Mahob because I scum read MT but that's just one person from group 1 so it would be better to go for group 3.
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 4:56 pm
by Hoctac
Classic Doro being forever paranoid of conspiracies.
In post 168, Hoctac wrote:Ame is probably town for her conspiracy theory. Knowing she was Paragon is interesting though, she felt completely different in that game.
you mean this? can you explain it and why you found it townie?
I
think
I get what she's referring to, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm not going to explain it in case I'm wrong.
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:00 pm
by Kanna
^ I was actually just thinking about the time heselfvotedinsconpiracyandididn'tgettoplay
great times!
p-edit: got ninja'd
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:02 pm
by Ame
Kanna I'm not ignoring you, I'm just going to quote everything later. Actually, since I'm already typing this I can respond to 164. It's your reasoning that you are using to justify there being 3 scum in group 1 that comes off as disingenuous. Who do you know besides myself that hates being scum so much that they would throw all their eggs in one basket? It seems unlikely the entire scum team would agree to such a strategy.
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:04 pm
by Ame
lol @ pedit
Hoc please explain! I want to know what you think I see.
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:05 pm
by Hoctac
I liked the coloured readslists people were making, so I made one too!
But you make me feel even more like not voting group 3. I doubt a scumteam member in group 3 would take the stance that there's two scummy players in group 3 while group 3 is on like L-2 and under heavy fire by most of the game
pedit: pretty!
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:06 pm
by Daenerys and Dragons
In post 238, dsjstr wrote:Part of that has to do with the slip I saw,
In post 13, Morning Tweet wrote:First impressions: i feel that it is unlikely scum placed 2 of themselves in group 2, or 2 of themselves in group 3
That seems like a lot of risk, because at a glance you'd expect us to probably pick group 2 or 3 for the lynch, and it'd be hard to stop it if one of those groups gained traction. all it would take is one scummy member in the group and you'd lose that group and 2/3rds of the scumteam
Whereas if you placed 2+ scum inside group one, it'd likely be easier to steer the lynch away from one to one of the smaller groups.
after all, there's at least 5 town in group one and im sure at least some of them would not want to die
I just realized while writing this that if we lynch group one, and there's zero scum in there, we lose the game immediately. ack!
I just noticed that MT referred to the town as "them" when saying that there are at least 5 town in group 1 and they should not vote for their own group. This seems weird to me and looks like MT could have slipped. If they are town then they
would have included them self as part of the town. Instead he talks about town being other people, now what does this have to do with group 3? If you look at MT's first read list you will notice that Mohab is the only strong town read. I personally
don't see the reasoning to be strong Mohab could have just faked that he wanted to lynch his own group and then he actually does change his vote. MT continues to town read him as they both switch over to group 2 which had gained some traction.
Just realized that group 2 is also at L-3, but basically I am scum reading Mahob because I scum read MT but that's just one person from group 1 so it would be better to go for group 3.
But you make me feel even more like not voting group 3. I doubt a scumteam member in group 3 would take the stance that there's two scummy players in group 3 while group 3 is on like L-2 and under heavy fire by most of the game
pedit: pretty!
Logically I agree with you, but gut-wise both dragons and I are getting scumpinged so hard by group 3
