In post 2240, PeregrineV wrote:It was a quandary. But, you've been bussing all game, so was hoping you would try to take out the last one and ride that to victory.
And Espeonage was Spyrex's lynch, which Tierce had already pledged to help him push through previously. Why would Tierce-scum willingly feed in to Spyrex's tunnel when there was no risk in refusing to indulge him?
In post 2240, PeregrineV wrote:It was a quandary. But, you've been bussing all game, so was hoping you would try to take out the last one and ride that to victory.
In post 2300, Desperado wrote:And Espeonage was Spyrex's lynch, which Tierce had already pledged to help him push through previously. Why would Tierce-scum willingly feed in to Spyrex's tunnel when there was no risk in refusing to indulge him?
Are you asking me why Tierce-scum would willingly MISLYNCH Espeonage?
If you are,
If you not, then please rephrase the question.
And if your asking me why scum-Tierce would do something, you should probably also ask her.
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:16 pm
by Desperado
In post 2301, PeregrineV wrote:Are you asking me why Tierce-scum would willingly MISLYNCH Espeonage?
If you are,
If you not, then please rephrase the question.
You claimed that the reason you didn't out your guilty result on Tierce yesterday is because she had been "bussing all game" and you hoped she would lead you on to her last buddy. She had already pledged to lynch Espeonage with Spyrex. Therefore, you must have thought that Espeonage was her partner, right? I want to know why you think Tierce-scum would have done that.
In post 2301, PeregrineV wrote:Are you asking me why Tierce-scum would willingly MISLYNCH Espeonage?
If you are,
If you not, then please rephrase the question.
You claimed that the reason you didn't out your guilty result on Tierce yesterday is because she had been "bussing all game" and you hoped she would lead you on to her last buddy.
Yes. Who defended her when I attacked her? Who chainsawed me? Who ignored her, who did she ignore?
In post 2302, Desperado wrote: She had already pledged to lynch Espeonage with Spyrex. Therefore, you must have thought that Espeonage was her partner, right? I want to know why you think Tierce-scum would have done that.
Her "pledge" means nothing.
Yes, Espeonage could have been her partner. I thought he was town enough, and would have allowed a NL to happen if possible. But, I've been wrong before.
You want to know why I think Tierce-scum would help lynch her partner?
1. Bussed Jacob all of day1 without actually activating the Jacob lynch.
2. Bussed Shadow day3.
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:56 pm
by SpyreX
Day 3 wasnt a bus though? Day 3, even if scum, was caught and expediting the inevitable.
If PV is scum this only makes sense if its lylo. So, what'd we be looking at is:
That puts base-lylo at 11 alive
Worst-Case is D3 lylo (D1 T, N1 Scum, Weak Doctor, Vig, D2 T, N2 Scum, Vig). Highly improbable, but there.
In that situation every town role has a foil. I have a hard time buying that.
I have a hard time with PV throwing this out now too to just fall on his sword tomorrow.
Sooo the only situation that "makes sense" on the cuff for 5 scum is PV town which well.
So I need to be sold on PV-scum not lylo making this play
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:15 pm
by shos
I agree with spy's thought. 5p scumteam in 18p game? That requires 5 scum lynches and at most 3 mislynches. Weak doc dies too. Copvig is against town in that he can make faulty tracks. Voyeur only helps knowing mafia roles.
I dun buy it.
I need to revise some more. Soon.
How long till deadline?
Can anyone compile claims list btw?
In post 1768, Tierce wrote:shos, I need one piece of information: do you have confirmation that a Jailkeeper targeted ABR the last two Nights?
In post 1769, Tierce wrote:And that is the only bit of information I need, so please stop the whole "If I get close to lynch etc." song and dance. Just answer that and I am okay with you keeping the rest to yourself.
Then, based on your past voting/posting, you better work hard to find Tierce's buddy you don't think exists. You got less than a day.
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:59 am
by Desperado
In post 2304, SpyreX wrote:So I need to be sold on PV-scum not lylo making this play
He's a goon, his buddy is the roleblocker and isn't in danger of being lynched. Sacrificing PV (who has had heat all game) to mislynch Tierce and put us into a 4p MYLO of the scum's choosing after PV gets speedlynched tomorrow.
Why do you think it's outrageous for scumPV to pull this in order to control two consecutive day/night phases going in to LYLO?
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:59 am
by Desperado
In post 2304, SpyreX wrote:So I need to be sold on PV-scum not lylo making this play
He's a goon, his buddy is the roleblocker and isn't in danger of being lynched. Sacrificing PV (who has had heat all game) to mislynch Tierce and put us into a 4p MYLO of the scum's choosing after PV gets speedlynched tomorrow.
Why do you think it's outrageous for scumPV to pull this in order to control two consecutive day/night phases going in to LYLO?
In post 2304, SpyreX wrote:So I need to be sold on PV-scum not lylo making this play
He's a goon, his buddy is the roleblocker and isn't in danger of being lynched. Sacrificing PV (who has had heat all game) to mislynch Tierce and put us into a 4p MYLO of the scum's choosing after PV gets speedlynched tomorrow.
Why do you think it's outrageous for scumPV to pull this in order to control two consecutive day/night phases going in to LYLO?
There's so much wrong with this that others can address it.
While they do, and since you agree two scum left, then who is the last when Tierce flips scum? If I flip scum?
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:09 am
by Desperado
In post 2316, PeregrineV wrote:There's so much wrong with this that others can address it.