Boost Mafia 2 (Game Over)

[Kmd4390]

And if I was just ripping off that role, wouldn't I have just called it researcher? My role name is psychic.

[Shanba]

even if we have two scum, we're not exactly in lylo thanks to cat's dayvig. We can use that to test the claim (definitively, if you catch my drift.) If zwet is town, that doesn't clear kmd, but if kmd is town that clears zwet. As such, we should daykill kmd. Much more efficient.

If Kmd is town, that then gives us two players who are essentially cleared: zwet and cateraction, since a dayvig with boostable extra shots is highly, highly unlikely to be scum. Either outcome (town or scum) is beneficial to the town in this instance.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Ether (1) -- zwetschenwasser

Not voting: Ether, Korejora, Kmd4390, Shanba, cateraction
6 alive, 4 to lynch.

[Ether]

Same stuff. Boost maximum, the "scum and town each have a boost" thing. (I'm aware that you only specified that there were two nighttime sources of boosts, and not who got what.) I'm not attacking you for the flavor specifically either way, but are you seriously trying to use that as WIFOM fodder?

Patrick's back. Are you even gonna try?

I'll take that as a "no."

I don't think a scum dayvig would be entirely unbalanced, but since I know there's a roleblocker at large...yeah.

[Kmd4390]

Hmm. Shanba agreeing with the plan isn't what I expected. Maybe a Kore lynch is better after I'm dead...

[Ether]

She claimed supersaint, Kmd. She's not going anywhere.

[Kmd4390]

Wow, so now it looks like I just read a game I wasn't in lol. I've never done that before. Oh well, couldn't have predicted that.

If there's a RB, where do you think the second night boost comes from?

[Kmd4390]

Oh, I missed that claim.

[Kmd4390]

Wait. I broke the game.

Cat kills me. Both he and Zwet are confirmed.

Kore gets lynched and we make Shanba hammer.

Leaves Cat, Zwet, and Ether. Town wins unless Ether is scum, which I seriously doubt.

[Ether]

I suspect that semioldguy's role came with some utility like that.

Unrelatedly, I think you're lying, so yeah.

[Kmd4390]

Semi. That's possible.

Anyway, wanna do my plan?

[Ether]

Or Porochaz's. That's probably more likely, since it has a precedent.

[Shanba]

Same stuff. Boost maximum, the "scum and town each have a boost" thing. (I'm aware that you only specified that there were two nighttime sources of boosts, and not who got what.) I'm not attacking you for the flavor specifically either way, but are you seriously trying to use that as WIFOM fodder?

Patrick's back. Are you even gonna try?

I'll take that as a "no."

I don't think a scum dayvig would be entirely unbalanced, but since I know there's a roleblocker at large...yeah.

Well, I'm basing this a little on the other game where there was a scum booster. The idea that they could just keep boosting the guy to get extra kills makes me think it's unlikely.

Plus I've seen exactly one scum dayvig in the two years and god knows how many games I've played here.

[Kmd4390]

Either way, dead scum. You could be right. I considered that. But yeah. The plan.

[Kmd4390]

Shanba, I saw one in Futurama. They are rare, but they exist. I'm willing to consider Cat near-confirmed if he shoots though.

[Shanba]

Shanba, I saw one in Futurama. They are rare, but they exist. I'm willing to consider Cat near-confirmed if he shoots though.

You'll also be dead which makes your opinion of him mostly irrelevant since people don't actually listen to the dead.

[Ether]

I don't see any real reason except speed to lynch Kore today. I'd rather kill you and lynch Shanba, since that means an extra kill in total, even if it's probably not important.

[Kmd4390]

Shanba, maybe they should start. The opinions I post mean just as much after I die as they mean now.

[Ether]

As for the Cateraction stuff, is anyone still doubting him? This isn't really that important.

[Shanba]

I don't see any real reason except speed to lynch Kore today. I'd rather kill you and lynch Shanba, since that means an extra kill in total, even if it's probably not important.

Using dayvig and ss doublelynch actually gives us three kills today.

[Kmd4390]

Ether, why is a Shanba lynch better than a Kore lynch and Shanba hammer? If you are town, and Cat kills me, it leaves Kore and Shanba as the only two possible scum from your PoV unless you think Cat is a scum dayvig. Eliminating them at the same time would be a town win.

[Shanba]

Shanba, maybe they should start. The opinions I post mean just as much after I die as they mean now.

Yeah, they do. But the thing is, people don't change their opinions because of other people's opinions. And if they do, they do it straight away; i.e. they are convinced by a solid case or something similar. So once you're dead, people may well read what you wrote, but unless it was something they missed before, they wont care.

Hence why nightkills are so powerful for scum. No one tries to listen to the dead, so scum dont even have to use WIFOMkills.

[Kmd4390]

Seriously, I broke this game. Let me have my ego boost. Kore gets lynched with a Shanba hammer after Cat kills me. I nailed Mastin from Day 1 and now I have the game-winning plan at endgame. I'm loving this assuming Ether lets me have it.

[Ether]

It's three kills today, but then we go to night with three players alive, so if scum survived all that, it's game over then. If we save Kore, then either scum have to kill her (and we can at least make a more informed...really awkward Zwet/me/cateraction decision), or we can lynch her tomorrow and leave only a lone survivor instead of three. It's better than lynching her immediately.

I think Kore's really really unlikely to be scum anyway, so yeah.

[Shanba]

I can improve on kmds plan:

dayvig kmd. That leaves zwet, me cat ether kore.
zwet and cat are cleared
we lynch one of ether or me (presumably me, given the state of people's suspicions.)
The next day, we get the remaining confirmed innocent to lay one vote on kore and ether to hammer. We only lose if ether/kore are a scumgroup in that case, rather than only losing if ether is scum. Slight percentage play.