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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:30 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
And yes I'm questioning the wagon because it's at L-2 and an ISO search gave me a townread on him
There's not exactly many other avenues of getting into the game
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:30 pm
by SausasaurusRex
I’m happy with a Black Ranger lynch, but I’ll wait for a claim or something from him before doing anything. Consider this a prod-dodge.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:07 pm
by Black Ranger
I'm actually a great information lynch due to how much of a shit show the hood is. I'll drop some reads.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:18 pm
by insomnia
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:22 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
keep it together
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:25 pm
by Black Ranger
Garmr
First hit my radar when he copied SS in RVS and leaned into it the second time around. Also, I really, really like RVS reads.
In post 49, Garmr wrote:
Nah I am cult leader and making you join tonight. Curious why your still on The through.
I called it the lazy man's vote because I wanted to see reactions. I gave my reasoning regarding lolcatting in the hood. Attempts to push it was derailed by Drixx even though he called it a good vote.
In post 467, Garmr wrote:So this is the post that stood out to me after a skim
This just seems like a massive misrep it's obvious tse means atleast 1 scum on the wagon. Appear to try and sort tse but in reality do nothing to sort his alignment. I'm leaning more to scum than actual town with a bad take because of the way he also uses the post to suck up to nero and the way his telling TSE to not scum hunt off his wagon.
If you want to help town, look elsewhere, except if you genuinely DO have helpful role info.
This post to means nero isn't scum buddies with the fonz so we can eliminate him from each others scum team.
VOTE: The fonz
Feel free to read Fonz' 251 and tell me if it's a misrep. It isn't.
In post 672, Garmr wrote:Btw just putting this here for my convenience.
Players that can not be on a scum team with nero.
TSE
The fonz.
Egix
Profii
Hectic.
He is at this point POEing people from being scum with Nero, but is still voting Fonz. It's basically shitting on the thread and I don't think any of this makes him more likely to be scum with any of the players listed. Garmr is just scum in general by virtue of doing everything a townie wouldn't do.
In post 779, Garmr wrote:Also bob going to add this isn't a normal game in a sense. There's enough scum for scum to hunt opposing scum. So they wouldn't have to fake scum hunting and all the thought process's that go with it. So I doubt any scum this game will fake scum or act differently to their town self when it comes to hunting till an entire team is eliminated. The oddities will come to interactions between certain people.
In post 813, Garmr wrote:In a way I fucking hate all of you right now. I try to actually scum hunt and post to keep discussion and content up and I get scum read because of it. I'm not even in a lynchable position at the momment I'm just ticked i'm not being taken seriously.
Hasn't anyone noticed that the popular opinion is to go yeah garmr scum. But a majority of them have no reasoning or the reasoning is out of place. It makes me think if scum are unsure if i'm actually scum or town but want to keep me in a as a possibility despite the lack of real reasoning.
It's pretty fucking obvious that Garmr is scum.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:25 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 2334, Nero Cain wrote:I'd shed 0 tears if any of the following wound up dead tonight
kagesong
NorwegianboyEE
Pine
pisskop
Jamelia
Almost50
Not Known 15
QuantumQuasar
insomnia
TrueSoulEnergy
dsjstr
SausasaurusRex
The Fonz
profii
Amrun
Egix96
AaronFrost
clidd
VaultDweller
Norwegian is too loose to be scum and I haven't played with Profii in like.....a year? So he can stay another day. Chop the rest.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:26 pm
by insomnia
I’ll have you know that the slot didn’t post anything to make me town lean them in the slightest and thus not giving a crap about them, so if you’re scum, pressure’s on.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:26 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 2350, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:And yes I'm questioning the wagon because it's at L-2 and an ISO search gave me a townread on him
There's not exactly many other avenues of getting into the game
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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:27 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 2351, SausasaurusRex wrote:I’m happy with a Black Ranger lynch, but I’ll wait for a claim or something from him before doing anything. Consider this a prod-dodge.
Sausaruas was the other probable Lynch right?
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:30 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
In post 2357, insomnia wrote:I’ll have you know that the slot didn’t post anything to make me town lean them in the slightest and thus not giving a crap about them, so if you’re scum, pressure’s on.
considering they never posted in the game, this doesn't surprise me
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:34 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
In post 2358, RCEnigma wrote: In post 2350, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:And yes I'm questioning the wagon because it's at L-2 and an ISO search gave me a townread on him
There's not exactly many other avenues of getting into the game
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it's nothing that groundbreaking, I just think they've consistently been fine with contributions and had nothing that indicated they cared about being scumread or let it stop them from hunting.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:39 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
We are NOT stopping the wagon when we’ve already got this far.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:40 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 2361, Alyssa The Lamb wrote: In post 2358, RCEnigma wrote: In post 2350, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:And yes I'm questioning the wagon because it's at L-2 and an ISO search gave me a townread on him
There's not exactly many other avenues of getting into the game
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it's nothing that groundbreaking, I just think they've consistently been fine with contributions and had nothing that indicated they cared about being scumread or let it stop them from hunting.
This is multiball no? Why can't scum also hunt?
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:41 pm
by Black Ranger
Tictac
He never really cared about the TSE lynch to the point of voting Titus on her replace in. He talked down a policy lynch and proceeded to do... Absolutely nothing to get information.
His reads suck.
In post 667, tictac wrote: In post 410, kagesong wrote: In post 41, Something_Smart wrote:I didn't suggest info lynching? I suggested just playing the game normally, which is probably going to result in a scramble to find a wagon amenable to 26 people and the result is probably going to be a pretty bad lynch... but the events that led to it will still be more useful than a policy lynch.
As of this post, I agree with this position. I'm clearly behind. Taking notes, etc.
In post 411, NotAJumbleOfNumbers wrote: In post 41, Something_Smart wrote:I didn't suggest info lynching? I suggested just playing the game normally, which is probably going to result in a scramble to find a wagon amenable to 26 people and the result is probably going to be a pretty bad lynch... but the events that led to it will still be more useful than a policy lynch.
Going to agree with this too.
ŵould lynch these, Egix or SS and be happy.
would lynch A50, and do a little dance, always.
would lynch, and go 'meh' if ya flip town: maybe not
all
of the rest of yall?
A50 at this point was a bad choice and really only makes sense if you push him... Which he didn't do. I explained my reason for why the A50 read was bad in the hood: A50 literally runs off a scoring sheet to find scum. If you squint at A50's posts now, you'll see it doesn't look like he's doing anything like his usual townplay. So, this read would be a good one if he actually pushed it, but he didn't, and would actually be justified in suspecting him right now.
In post 676, tictac wrote: In post 469, Drixx wrote: In post 468, Nero Cain wrote:but there are plenty of town that post reasonless read list. Mastina for instance.
and not gonna lie, I'm still a bit salty.
What do u think of profii?
Go look at the lists KM posted. See if you can spot WHY I pushed them to explain.
At this point their follow up posts trying to dodge explaining are actually far more damning than the problem with the supposed reads.
I've got about 45 minutes till I have to go to work. I'll try and do another pass specifically on profii and see what I see.
Drix would be a goood lunch also.
Drixx's push onto KM wasn't bad, but Drixx was focused on the idea that KM was actually scum hunting with their post rather than attacking someone making shit posts. I brought it up in the hood that I wasn't convinced that was what KM was doing (the scumhunting that is). At the time, the game thread didn't understand that KM wasn't Drixx's best push (he still wanted me). Therefore tictac not attacking the substance of Drixx's push on KM was really weird. There was nothing like, "nah, KM checks out this is bullshit." in there. Lazy read.
In post 1205, tictac wrote:Chemist read is also a read and not sarcasm (@dave, tho u used the word 'sarcasm' correctly! so concrats.)
In post 1640, tictac wrote: In post 1592, AaronFrost wrote:The thing with tictac pointing out Wake's meta felt weird to me, generally weird = scummy. Wake, who is modding the game btw not playing it, is someone who is known to say "I hate Day 1" and then proceeds to lurk for the entire day. Hectic's doing the same thing here, the difference being that Hectic is actually playing the game whereas if he wanted to imitate Wake's playstyle he would just continue to lurk, which he's not. There's no correlation between their play here.
alas, for all my affectations of intellectual superiority i have sadly yet to unlock the elusive secrets of acausal mafia-playing. It is therefore tragically always the case that every single post of mine must be based on those posts that come
earlier
in the cosmic order and
not
on those posts that arrive
later
.
Also, why does the specific focus on 'Wake' matter, since you agree that Hectic was obviously memeing in
862?
In post 1630, Pink Ball wrote:Town hunts is overestimating town, especially on D1, especially on a 50p game. Look how people reacts to posts thinking "gotcha" (
tictac's post about Titus
, you talking about Aaron)
ouch.
also, i can see it's not gonna happen today, so.
I find this portion of Chemist ISO hilarious.
VOTE: Chemist1422
In post 2118, tictac wrote:
Is this a real question? I'd be real surprised if all the scumz were among the active growd.
How ya feel about lynching chemist?
dude has meta for getting paralyed as scum, and the little content that he does have is scummy.
I mean if we just wanna get
something
to the noose, then sure, let's listen to a second-hand report from drizz, it's not like the most horrible of all options.
if we wanna lynch scum however, we should:
VOTE: Chemist1422
I called this chemist read an asspull in the hood. I'm just going to recycle the reasoning because it was pretty poetic n shit. He basically accused chemist of snorting boogers in his sleep and voted him for being a booger eater. Not once did he really point out something scummy here. It's just an excuse to justify a read that was an obvious shit meme read that was challenged twice over (once by Pink Ball and twice over from myself). Yes I'm suggesting he took a read that wasn't real and tried to make it into a real read. It's just pure shitplay.
NK15 is a shit vote for reasons I'll drop later.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:41 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
I'm looking at the mindset behind it, not what he's actually doing
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:46 pm
by RCEnigma
I don't have context for anything in this game but are y'all sure this is the lynch? Those look like some pretty good posts.
Ive only seen the tictac posts in that quote but they are some pretty bad posts and I'd probably Lynch there.
Norwegian you cool with tictac?
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:47 pm
by Black Ranger
In post 1578, SausasaurusRex wrote:Sorry, I was gone for a little while. I had thought the reasoning for my vote was obvious, but it appears not. Whilst I am certainly not newbie scum, I am newbie large. I have never before played in a game with over 13 people, and I'm finding it very hard to keep track. I'm struggling with keeping track of everything everyone's saying, but what I can do is have townreads. Whilst I might not be insightful enough to draw my own conclusions, (at least at this stage, once we get more information I promise I'm better), I felt that I could have certain townreads that I trust. They are yet to do anything I have seen as scummy, and so I trust them to put their vote in the right place. Therefore, I followed their conclusions and voted as they did. Please note that this is not sheeping. Sheeping is voting the wagon with the most votes. What I am doing is voting the person that my townreads vote, and also making sure their reasoning doesn't seem illogical before I do so.
Now, about what TheFonz said about me being scum. TheFonz has never before played with me, and so I don't blame him for his lack of knowledge about me. But no matter my alignment, I am always self-conscious. Put it this way: I know that I am definitely town. It is impossible for me to be wrong about this. Therefore, if I get myself lynched, I am helping the anti-town aligned players. Therefore, I should try my hardest not to seem scummy, as that helps me not get lynched. I know this holds for any alignment, but, if you wish, you can look at my meta to see I am always like this.
When I said that Tictac is the person to vote now, that was because new information may arise. It may turn out that Tictac is town, in which case Tictac was not the right lynch. But currently, unless someone does somethig stupid, I will vote Tictac.
TheFonz also says that I seem unused to being scum. However, I argue that, were I scum,
I would have had 5 others to help me.
If I were the player that is aligned with only himself (I don't know what alignment this is called, so I'm going to refer to it as the one-man), then I would certainly have remained quieter. There was no reason for one-man me to vote someone, as I don't care who is lynched, provided it is not me. I would have simply asked questions and appeared to be thinking about it, whilst I waited for everyone else to lynch themselves.
I mentioned that Saus was on my shit list for this comment. NK15 picked up on the "vote somebody for doing something stupid" comment. I brought this one up in the hood because it assumed that 5 people would be available in the scum pt to help (so minus lurkers, people that didn't care to help, or a traitor.) They never contributed anything to the game besides this, the outing of the second hood, and the tracker claim. Pretty lackluster performance. Lesser scumread.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:48 pm
by RCEnigma
Someone said Black ranger slipped or there was a tell or something. What's that about?
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:49 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
@RCE
I thought tictac was a decent wagon as well, but it died down for some reason.
Why did BR have to make good posts when we already worked our ass off to get this to L-2 :/
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:50 pm
by The Fonz
In post 2359, RCEnigma wrote: In post 2351, SausasaurusRex wrote:I’m happy with a Black Ranger lynch, but I’ll wait for a claim or something from him before doing anything. Consider this a prod-dodge.
Sausaruas was the other probable Lynch right?
The previous leading wagon that was derailed by his claiming, yes. Still think he's a better lynch, but BR is a good one. I now won't believe any PR claim, since Ranger has had a chance to claim earlier this page and didn't.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:51 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
he's aggressively not trying to save himself lol
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:51 pm
by Black Ranger
In post 1733, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I'm still town on tictac, so not voting there. I'm down to try this on for a size though
VOTE: SausasaurusRex
Reminder that NK15 started the Saus wagon and this guy never commented on their NK15 read. Elsa could be scum but lazy reads like this piss me off.
In post 2024, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Elsa -
841 is a bad post. There were already discussions around Black Ranger and his contributions in his hood, yet she votes Black Ranger for lying about having a list of people in the hood? Why would scum lie about something so easily corroborated/refuted by their hoodmates and what would even be the motive for lying about something like that.
bob - For someone who's written a lot of text, none of the content seems to come from someone reading the game at more than a very shallow level, and I get the general vibe that he's posting for the sake of it. And then there's
397 that's basically a load of waffle and was written only after I asked him about his read on TSE twice.
2002 is like the best content he's put forth to date, but I'm confused why he's only commenting on it now.
No kidding. I think more than one person called out how bizarre it would be to call me out for something that could be immediately counterclaimed by a hood member. I hate to say "it's so bad that it's good," it's more like "it's so bad that if this is the best you have it basically shows that you don't care about the read". Also, NK15 where?
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:51 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
In post 2352, Black Ranger wrote:I'm actually a great information lynch due to how much of a shit show the hood is. I'll drop some reads.
like what
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:52 pm
by RCEnigma